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The most wicked thing we can do to any group of people is to claim they have a relationship with God outside of Christ.
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The most wicked thing we can do to any group of people is to claim they have a relationship with God outside of Christ.
I have no disgust for any group or nation of people.
I used the passage in comparison with what Paul said at the end of Romans chapter 2.
I am disgusted with the actions of many in the modern Church who ignore 1 John 2:22-23 and
the verses below, and fail to share the Gospel with all races of people.
The most wicked thing we can do to any group of people is to claim they have a relationship with God outside of Christ.
1Ti_1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Tit_3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
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Maybe you truly don't feel a disgust for these, I guess only you and God really knows, but believe me, many of those in the past I have encountered, who used this passage as well, they most certainly did. Some of them went as far as to claim no Jews were killed during the holocaust, because the ones killed weren't real Jews, they were sons of satan instead. Arnold Murray, for one, called these Jews currently living over there, Kenites, which he took to mean literal sons of satan, as in they were the result of satan literally producing offspring via Eve in the garden. And this very verse, Revelation 3:9, was one of his main verses he used to supposedly help prove his case.
All of that aside, what are your thoughts on this portion of that verse you presented....behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee(Revelation 3:9)? One can't ignore that part. It's clearly included in that verse, and that it is meaning the ones who are of the synagogue of satan.
many of those in the past I have encountered, who used this passage as well, they most certainly did. Some of them went as far as to claim no Jews were killed during the holocaust, because the ones killed weren't real Jews, they were sons of satan instead. Arnold Murray, for one, called these Jews currently living over there, Kenites, which he took to mean literal sons of satan, as in they were the result of satan literally producing offspring via Eve in the garden.
Ezekiel 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
The prophecy also indicates some of the following. and one king shall be king to them all. I don't think that's quite the case yet. Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. The fact many of them still deny the Son, can't see this portion being true yet, either. The prophecy seems to indicate that once they are gathered in their own land, all of these other things mentioned in these verses will be true as well.
How you then are concluding Trump fulfills Ezekiel 37.15, when these other things mentioned in the verses that follow, are not even remotely the case as of yet, puzzles me?
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In any case, President Trump gave us a remarkable end of days sign today when he inadvertently put the sticks of Judah and Joseph back together today. Everyone should understand that the capital of the millennial reign and the eventual throne of God will be in Jerusalem. It is our Heavenly Father's favorite place on earth. For those of you who might not own a Bible (shame on you!) this is how it reads:
Say unto them, 'Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in Mine hand. Ezekiel 37.19
Any significant event, such as this, dealing with Jerusalem, will be found to be significant in God's plan and the fulfillment of prophesy.It's the Jerusalem above that is our mother...earthly Jerusalem has historical significance to the world but in my mind there's nothing prophetic in this event...NOTHING!
Trump simply said it like it should be...Israel has a sovereign right to call Jerusalem their capital, just like every other nation...PERIOD.
Are we not to "keep our eyes on Jerusalem"?
There is more than one?Which Jerusalem?
Gal 4:25 Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.
Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
Heb 11:15 If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return.
Heb 11:16 But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.
Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering,
Heb 12:23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,
Heb 12:24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
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understood..... however, how am I supposed to keep my eye on a Jerusalem that is non existent until the end of the millennial age.There is the holy city on the earth today and there is the one in heaven - New Jerusalem.
This is why the last part of Revelation refers to the holy city -as in this book. - because it is only about the New Jerusalem - and the messages are from the little book that John ate. This is why we have chapters 16-22 in Revelation.
understood..... however, how am I supposed to keep my eye on a Jerusalem that is non existent until the end of the millennial age.
Before the New Jerusalem can come down out of heaven , the current Jerusalem will fulfill prophecies that will usher in the New Jerusalem ....you cannot reach the age of 21 until you have passed through age 1-20The New Jerusalem is just as real as this computer I am now using.
However, it is now in heaven, based on what Paul said in Galatians 4:25-26.
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