The Law loses again..God must be angry!

[Doug Melven]

Without seeing what 'God' taught,
remember that Muslims and JWs and Mormons say the same thing,
all while living contrary to God's Word.

Muslims and JW's are clearly deluded.
The JW's had to come up with there own Bible.
The Muslims are all about outward obedience. Contrary to Galatians 1.

But I also see what you are saying, many people claim, "I was taught by God" when in reality they were not.

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

No. I didn't even know mel, nor dalton, either - had to look them up.... just for the reference.....

Just being nosy.....where are you from,if you don’t mind saying

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

He didn't ignore the law; God Himself spoke to Him and told Him what to do.

I was referring to the interim period—before God sent His Angel...please read again

 

[Kenny'sID]

No God didn't, but you did.
"Do good works all of the time"

Not sure how you draw the conclusion consistently doing good works equates to a calculated amount of works.

I now see where you pulled the odd assumption I said we need to do good works every second of the day from...wow. See? You read "all the time" the way you do because you have run out of arguments, and you are trying to make my posts look ridiculous, but you make a good point unintentionally.

Before I go on, I'm not here to try to embarrass you but I will use this reading into things as you have clearly done as an example of how, if we want the bible to mean something other than it does, we will make that happen, and point out, that is the basis of how people are able to allow them selves to believe in the "no good is necessary" thing.

I'm going to leave the rest of your post/posts alone for a time since my constant correcting just doesn't look good for either of us after a time, even if it is viable.

 

[Kenny'sID]

He's saying I'm judging using the standard of Him who sent me.

That stuck out to me as well the other day as I read it before posting it....again

One positive thing that comes from using the same scripture time and time again to try to get through to people, if nothing else, we thoroughly understand it/see things that otherwise might have gone unnoticed.

 

[SBC]

The detail and precision that you answered with is wonderful. I appreciate your honesty and methodical development of perspective.

All blessings to you, brother in Jesus,

Grip Docility

God Bless you and yours, and may you have something very special put in your path this Christmas season.

SBC

 

[SBC]

Na, that never was a problem, it's never enough, never cease doing good ...give all we are willing to. Christ gave all he possibly could, how much are we willing to give? It's even rewarded so get to it....excellent investment

Though that isn't a problem at all, for some reason it's another popular come back against the necessity of good works.

Can someone for once tell me why it's a problem?

Good works, is simply the faithful doing things, acceptable to God, IN HIS NAME.

AND doing acceptable to God, things, IN HIS NAME, is precisely what GLORIFIES GOD.

However the VERY BASIC and REASONABLE "SERVICE" any man can do..... IS

Rom 12
[1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

It's comparable to that itty bitty faith of a mustard seed, that is acceptable to God, for a man to be INCLUDED in His Kingdom.

However Absolutely God desires that man will go above and beyond what He has declared is a man's acceptable "reasonable service". As well, such men WHO DO go above and beyond ALSO, are gifted with FAITH above and beyond that itty bitty mustard seed.

And it by DILIGENCE, fortitude, keeping Christ in the forefront that leads men to what is above and beyond, and thus Glorifies God greater and greater.

And additionally ~ that it be known, Gods Glory IS HIS LIGHT. Every time Gods is Glorified, well, maybe a poor analogy, but it is like a dimmer switch, when turned, becomes brighter and brighter, as well, every time God IS Glorified, His LIGHT becomes BRIGHTER.....and ?
What does a LIGHT DO? It OVERCOMES Darkness.
What is the LIGHT of God doing? Overcoming the Darkness of the World, Nations, Men.... until, there shall be no need of a Sun hanging in the Sky, but that the WORLD, and every converted man, shall Be LIGHTED, BY the reflection of Gods complete and Pure LIGHT.

IOW, every individual man can choose HOW MUCH or HOW LITTLE, he wants to be an active participant in being in Service to God, to be part of helping God OVERCOME darkness. And so too, shall each man be rewarded for his own individual efforts. God is Faithful. God is Just.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Good works, is simply the faithful doing things, acceptable to God, IN HIS NAME.

AND doing acceptable to God, things, IN HIS NAME, is precisely what GLORIFIES GOD.

However the VERY BASIC and REASONABLE "SERVICE" any man can do..... IS

Rom 12
[1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

It's comparable to that itty bitty faith of a mustard seed, that is acceptable to God, for a man to be INCLUDED in His Kingdom.

However Absolutely God desires that man will go above and beyond what He has declared is a man's acceptable "reasonable service". As well, such men WHO DO go above and beyond ALSO, are gifted with FAITH above and beyond that itty bitty mustard seed.

And it by DILIGENCE, fortitude, keeping Christ in the forefront that leads men to what is above and beyond, and thus Glorifies God greater and greater.

And additionally ~ that it be known, Gods Glory IS HIS LIGHT. Every time Gods is Glorified, well, maybe a poor analogy, but it is like a dimmer switch, when turned, becomes brighter and brighter, as well, every time God IS Glorified, His LIGHT becomes BRIGHTER.....and ?
What does a LIGHT DO? It OVERCOMES Darkness.
What is the LIGHT of God doing? Overcoming the Darkness of the World, Nations, Men.... until, there shall be no need of a Sun hanging in the Sky, but that the WORLD, and every converted man, shall Be LIGHTED, BY the reflection of Gods complete and Pure LIGHT.

IOW, every individual man can choose HOW MUCH or HOW LITTLE, he wants to be an active participant in being in Service to God, to be part of helping God OVERCOME darkness. And so too, shall each man be rewarded for his own individual efforts. God is Faithful. God is Just.

God Bless,
SBC

I agree......as long as we realize we are not saved by these good works... God bless

 

[Kenny'sID]

Good works, is simply the faithful doing things, acceptable to God, IN HIS NAME.

AND doing acceptable to God, things, IN HIS NAME, is precisely what GLORIFIES GOD.

However the VERY BASIC and REASONABLE "SERVICE" any man can do..... IS

Rom 12
[1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

It's comparable to that itty bitty faith of a mustard seed, that is acceptable to God, for a man to be INCLUDED in His Kingdom.

However Absolutely God desires that man will go above and beyond what He has declared is a man's acceptable "reasonable service". As well, such men WHO DO go above and beyond ALSO, are gifted with FAITH above and beyond that itty bitty mustard seed.

And it by DILIGENCE, fortitude, keeping Christ in the forefront that leads men to what is above and beyond, and thus Glorifies God greater and greater.

And additionally ~ that it be known, Gods Glory IS HIS LIGHT. Every time Gods is Glorified, well, maybe a poor analogy, but it is like a dimmer switch, when turned, becomes brighter and brighter, as well, every time God IS Glorified, His LIGHT becomes BRIGHTER.....and ?
What does a LIGHT DO? It OVERCOMES Darkness.
What is the LIGHT of God doing? Overcoming the Darkness of the World, Nations, Men.... until, there shall be no need of a Sun hanging in the Sky, but that the WORLD, and every converted man, shall Be LIGHTED, BY the reflection of Gods complete and Pure LIGHT.

IOW, every individual man can choose HOW MUCH or HOW LITTLE, he wants to be an active participant in being in Service to God, to be part of helping God OVERCOME darkness. And so too, shall each man be rewarded for his own individual efforts. God is Faithful. God is Just.

God Bless,
SBC

He more than "desires" it, it's a must...or else. But I won't repeat all the proof of such I've posted to this thread. If those who needed that proof refuse to see it, no point in repeating it.

 

[SBC]

I agree......as long as we realize we are not saved by these good works... God bless

Amen.... only faith can save us, and even our faith is given us by God.
How awesome is our Lord!

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

He more than "desires" it, it's a must...or else. But I won't repeat all the proof of such I've posted to this thread. If those who needed that proof refuse to see it, no point in repeating it.

Please repeat it.....All of it.....wasn’t “ that “ much was there? Just joshing there......
I sincerely believe works are vital...so vital that those who practice faith will be given Gods Holy Spirit who will see to it that good works will follow true salvation as sure as night follows day.....these works are so vital that God even says we will be rewarded for them at the Bema Seat of Jesus.... God bless you

 

[SBC]

He more than "desires" it, it's a must...or else. But I won't repeat all the proof of such I've posted to this thread. If those who needed that proof refuse to see it, no point in repeating it.

Okay.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Amen.... only faith can save us, and even our faith is given us by God.
How awesome is our Lord!

God Bless,
SBC

Do you ever consider how blessed we are to know that? We should be walking on air every second of every day! God bless

 

[Doug Melven]

He more than "desires" it, it's a must...or else. But I won't repeat all the proof of such I've posted to this thread. If those who needed that proof refuse to see it, no point in repeating it.

I am beginning to think you are missing the whole point of why Jesus Christ gave His life for you.
You seem to think He just wanted servants.
God wanted a relationship with us and sin was in the way.
So Jesus Christ came and took care of that sin problem.
Now we can have a Father/son-daughter relationship.
Do you think fathers demand of there children that they always do what the father wants or he will cut them off?

 

[Kenny'sID]

You seem to think He just wanted servants.

Ok, against my better judgment, just one comment.

Are you not aware servants are exactly what Christ wants, that Christ himself was servant? It's what he taught us to be? Why can't servants have a relationship with God?

Seems to me you either aren't up on what the bible says about many things or in your desperation to prove works not necessary, you completely forget what you've learned.

Think before you post...what you are doing just keeps getting worse.

Do you think fathers demand of there children that they always do what the father wants or he will cut them off?

If they aren't doing his will, they aren't Gods children so yes, absolutely. The last scripture I posted here says exactly what he will do. I've made it as simple as I can for you....several times.

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Ok, against my better judgment, just one comment.

Are you not aware servants are exactly what Christ wants, that Christ himself was servant? It's what he taught us to be?

Seems to me you either aren't up on what the bible says about many things or in your desperation to prove works not necessary, you completely forget what you've learned.

Think before you post...what you are doing just keeps getting worse.



If they aren't doing his will, they aren't his children so yes, absolutely. The last scripture I posted here says exactly what he will do. I've made it as simple as I can for you....several tim


If Jesus was seeking only servants He should have stayed in Heaven where He had countless angels to tend to His every need.".. He came here to seek and save that which had been lost.He is looking for the one thing He can’t create....TRUST.......give Him that and He will give you everything.....including a Spirit that cant help but do the works He desires and YOU demand—even to the point of thinking they are imperative for ones salvation.what good works did the thief on the cross perform? nONE ? In all sincerity and kindness..". ..you are putting the cart before the horse. God bless

 

[Kenny'sID]

..you are putting the cart before the horse. God bless

No, you rearranged the cart/horse and tried to make it look like I did. I made it clear we could do both but being a servant was actually what Christ taught. And you started your post buy stating I said he "only" wanted...servants, indicating I said no relationship was necessary, when I did not say or even imply that. You messed it up big time, put words in my mouth, and "created" something wrong with my post, nothing new.

Twisted posts it into something else as is clearly done here so often...it's what people do, and happens all the time on these threads. It's the only way a failing side can get the upper hand. So do that if you must, but I will point it out every time I see it, so others will see what is needed for an untruth to prevail...more untruth.

 

[Doug Melven]

Ok, against my better judgment, just one comment.

Are you not aware servants are exactly what Christ wants, that Christ himself was servant? It's what he taught us to be? Why can't servants have a relationship with God?

Seems to me you either aren't up on what the bible says about many things or in your desperation to prove works not necessary, you completely forget what you've learned.

Think before you post...what you are doing just keeps getting worse.



If they aren't doing his will, they aren't Gods children so yes, absolutely. The last scripture I posted here says exactly what he will do. I've made it as simple as I can for you....several times.

These verses state what God wanted.
Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

2 Corinthians 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

What human father will cut his child off because that child didn't do what he wanted all of the time.
See the story of the Prodigal son in Luke 15 for the answer.

 

[SBC]

Do you ever consider how blessed we are to know that? We should be walking on air every second of every day! God bless

I know right!!!

Makes me wonder how many people say Thank you Jesus for calling me, for forgiving me, for giving me faith, for being my Lord.....
compared to Jesus, Jesus, please, please, I really want to win the lotto....uh!

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Kenny'sID]

4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Now go look up what Christ says about being a servant to each other, and then report the whole truth back to us here, not just the part that you "think" works for you.