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Hi SBC,
All I'm saying is that the Scriptures don't present the issue in that manner. It's certainly how we want to consider it in our human nature, but God isn't us. We would like to think that when the death angel passed over Egypt that the firstborn who were merely little babes in their mother's arms weren't affected. We want to think that when the flood covered the whole earth that surely there must have been some mercy for the little children. But, that's how we, in our human nature, want to see the issue.
As I say, I'm willing to let God be God, but I'm not prepared to say that God is going to do something or handle something in a particular way, if He hasn't said so. Your argument continues to rest on the ability of a human being to cognitively understand the law, but the Scriptures never infer that requirement.
God bless you,
In Christ, ted
Your argument continues to rest on the ability of a human being to cognitively understand the law,
No, it is not only about the law. Greater is Gods WORD, than the letter of the law. No, my difference with you, is the ability for a human to be accountable for what he has not yet the capability, to yet know.
The LAW exists, whether or not one UNDERSTANDS the LAW. Just as the Word of God exists, whether or not one has Heard it, or understands it. Just as all things God has created and made exists, whether or not men believe it is Gods creation. They can clearly see what exists, and clearly know, men did not create it.
It is not some kind of mystery, that BABY'S do not have the capability to KNOW what a LAW is, let alone, begin to comprehend what it means.
but the Scriptures never infer that requirement.
What the Scriptures .... do not INFER.....but rather precisely SAY, is that God IS JUST.
If you KNOW what JUST means, you would KNOW, JUSTICE prevails according to what IS JUST.
IS it JUST, to punish one who has NOT the capacity to know, to love, to believe in God?
IS it JUST, to punish one who has NOT the capacity to know, or understand what death means, and therefore we should sentence to death (like a connotative adult), a 5 yr old murderer, who smothers to death his baby brother?
Scripture is full of teaching of what is JUST, and how to exact JUSTICE.
Do you somehow believe Scripture is teaching what is JUST, is in opposition to what is JUST according to God? I don't.
Scripture identifies those WITHOUT excuse. ARE those WHO...have clearly seen what He has made, by the things themselves that exist, and by the Power God exacts over the things clearly seen.
Rom 1
[20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Seriously, do you believe a BABY, has clearly seen the WORLD, the things made, His Power? I don't.
I was talking with a 3yr old once, who had been listening to a conversation of adults speaking about a teen who had been killed in a car accident, and saying she was going to be cremated. I asked the 3yr old, what does dead mean. He said, that meant people couldn't see them any more. I asked why? He said because God came and got them and took them to His house in Heaven. I asked him where is Heaven. He said, way, way, up past the clouds. I asked if we could go there and see God. He said no, we couldn't. I asked why not. He said because we have to wait until God comes to get us. Then I asked him if he knew what cremation meant. He said yes. I asked him to tell me what it meant. He said they burn the girl, then put the crumbs in a box. I asked if it hurt the girl to burn her. He didn't think so, but didn't know why. I ask what do they do with the crumbs in the box. He wasn't sure, but thought they might bury it in the ground. I asked then how does God taken them to his House. He said, when we are not looking, God comes and takes them.
Point being, a BABY does not know what is clearly seen, neither does a small child who is in the process of learning about God ......
It is EASY to learn how much or how little a child knows and understands, by talking WITH them instead of AT them.
A HOW LITTLE example;
My children were taught to pray before meals. When my son was 5, in Kindergarten, I went to his school, stood where he could not see me, to observe him eating his lunch. He paid no mind to other children and folded his hands, blessed his meal and ate. Several weeks later, he was telling me he sat next to a little girl in his class, and she started asking him stuff while he was praying. She asked him what he was doing. He told her he was asking God to bless his food. She asked Him who is God. And asked him what is a bless.
Point being ~ God provides His WORD that it be known to men, and men work diligently around the world to make His Word known to men. PRECISELY because we are not naturally BORN or CREATED already KNOWING His Word.
Point being ~ God IS JUST, and gives opportunity for men to KNOW, about He who has created all things, BY the very things He has created. He further gives opportunity for men to KNOW, by hearing, by reading His Word. God further INSTRUCTS, for men to NOT KEEP little children from coming to Him,
that they ALSO may learn about Him. And baby's? Does God instruct men to teach Baby's about Him?
Where? Does God instruct men to punish Baby's for not believing in God? Where?
We would like to think that when the death angel passed over Egypt that the firstborn who were merely little babes in their mother's arms weren't affected. We want to think that when the flood covered the whole earth that surely there must have been some mercy for the little children.
I wouldn't. I would rather trust to believe, Gods understanding is PERFECT, as are His acts and judgements and mercy. I would rather trust to believe, God REQUIRES the blood death of every individual naturally born person. I would rather trust to believe, only God knows the day, the time, He shall decide to require our blood lives, and that WHEN he takes, it is JUST.
God Bless,
SBC
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