It's official: Al Franken says he will resign, though he denies many of the allegations

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Meh.

I think too much emphasis is placed on the person occupying the oval office ... and too little on the actions that person takes as president. So far Trump is doing things which need to be done. I'm not convinced Mike Pence has the intestinal fortitude to tackle the difficult issues Trump has.

This.
 
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Sadly, JFK is dead. ;)
JFK, honorable?
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Btw, the mainstream media which created the Camelot myth is now dead too.
 
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None of these involved children, though there were some VERY young adults involved.

child
CHīld/
noun
  1. a young human being below the age of puberty...

Really...that’s s how you’ll defend him...?
 
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Where did he say that he did nothing wrong...?
Sorry, I was just playing CNN reporter for a second and paraphrasing. :)

What he actually said was: "I also think it gave some people the false impression that I was admitting to doing things that in fact I haven't done. Some of the allegations against me are simply not true. Others I remember very differently."
 
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He denied many of the allegations.

Did he deny them all...? Did he not also apologise and express shame for many of them as well...?

I know, it stings...it makes you very uncomfortable that, on one side you have a person prepared to exhibit at least some decency and to atone for their behaviour....while cowards on the other side think only of their political hides...
 
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I'm not defending anybody. I'm simply pointing out what a child is. Seriously. Words have meaning. It's a pet peeve of mine.

No, they don’t. Words have no inherent meaning. We derive meaning from the context in which they are used. So when “Child” was used, it was appropriate. The message being expressed was clear...this disgusting man had a habit of preying upon girls who were not yet adult and who were very vulnerable...
 
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No, they don’t. Words have no inherent meaning. We derive meaning from the context in which they are used. So when “Child” was used, it was appropriate. The message being expressed was clear...this disgusting man had a habit of preying upon girls who were not yet adult and who were very vulnerable...
Opinions vary. And it is an important distinction when discussing things like pedophilia. There is a HUGE difference between attracted to pre-pubescent girls and post puberty women, regardless of their chronological age.

One is a mental disorder, the other is just "dirty old man". And the latter is a cultural construct. The former is biological.
 
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Perhaps his plan is to wait and see if Judge Moore is thrown out, assuming that he is elected next Tuesday, before he is willing to depart for greener pastures. If the Senate fails to evict Roy Moore, then Al might just rescind his resignation and remain in office.
 
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Opinions vary. And it is an important distinction when discussing things like pedophilia. There is a HUGE difference between attracted to pre-pubescent girls and post puberty women, regardless of their chronological age.

...and failure to make that distinction only serves to trivialize pedophilia.
 
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