What is with all of the sexual harrassment news?

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You seem to think it's okay to give men a pass on abusing people sexually but you don't have the same opinion about murder.

I've never thought that way, ever in my life,
and none of my posts reflect that.

David Wilkerson and Corrie ten Boom and many, many others (though by far NOT a majority ever, anywhere) did not think that way either, and they
helped many, many people by obeying God, by doing and living ACTIVELY AS GOD SAYS TO LIVE,
not living as the world chooses to live.

 

[SBC]

....and do you think there is a spiritual facet to it all?

We all know this stuff has been going on forever. Here and there we hear of someone getting caught, but there certainly has been a rash of reports lately. It could be that some women feel more confident to talk if others do as well, but I am wondering if there is a spiritual facet to it.

It's not just sexual harassment, many crooked kings and politicians are being exposed of late.
I really wonder if God is allowing evil to be exposed for what it is and how prevalent in society it is. Evil meaning corruption, modern slavery, sexual harassment, ect.

Any feelings on this? I have done a few in depth searches but nobody else is making any connections that I can find. Is it just coincidence or is there something bigger going on?
I realize any answer is speculation, but can we speculate?

I think it has an undertone of everyone can sue anyone so jump on board.

If it is truly about the need to talk about it ~ there are plenty of groups and professionals an individual can "talk about it", and "how to" handle it if one "really" has no clue.

Sexual harassment has been blown out of proportion. "He's older than me and asked me for a date"...
"He looked me up and down"...."He kiss me 15 years ago" and I didn't say knock it off, but he's wealthy now"...."I didn't "really" want to get in his car when he offered me a ride, but I did"....."I could only get a promotion IF I".....
sue, sue, sue!

Women have used their looks and provocative clothing for eons to get attention, then cry wolf when they do. If you don't like being in a sticky situation, then don't put yourself in a sticky situation.

Is it just coincidence

No.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Buzz_B]

I don't know that it is widely understood but the fact is that our rulers and for that matter any persons whom we elevate as icons of human society are pictured in the Bible as occupying a symbolic heaven which denotes their elevated position in relation to men by the esteem of men.

We are seeing the stars fall from heaven and it may get even worse.

Literalism would have us believe that the literal stars are what is spoken of in such prophecies but that is really quite ridiculous. Shooting stars are not really stars and besides that it would not take many to wipe out life on earth so meteorites and the like are unlikely candidates. The smallest actual star is many times larger than the earth and there is no way it could fall to earth.

Clearly the men we reverence are those stars.

The moon turning to blood or turning dark is a regular natural occurrence played upon in prophecy to denote the loss of God's blessings on our harvests (and even wars destruction of our harvest land), the seasons for which are determined by the cycle of the moon. Harvests used to be determined by the Lunar Calendar, based upon the cycles of the moon. But the moon is also used to represent men who are enlightened of God (as the moon by the sun) and we find ourselves in a time when those enlightened ones seem to have gone dark. We can no longer find them.

The sun is used to represent sometimes God's scorching the earth as punishment for sin and at other times the sun is used to denote the light of knowledge received of God which in that case the darkening of the sun means men become locked in confusion as operating in the darkness with no real wisdom.

The end of this world is but a sneeze away my friend.

 

[SBC]

I don't know that it is widely understood but the fact is that our rulers and for that matter any persons whom we elevate as icons of human society are pictured in the Bible as occupying a symbolic heaven which denotes their elevated position in relation to men by the esteem of men.

We are seeing the stars fall from heaven and it may get even worse.

Literalism would have us believe that the literal stars are what is spoken of in such prophecies but that is really quite ridiculous. Shooting stars are not really stars and besides that it would not take many to wipe out life on earth so meteorites and the like are unlikely candidates. The smallest actual star is many times larger than the earth and there is no way it could fall to earth.

Clearly the men we reverence are those stars.

The moon turning to blood or turning dark is a regular natural occurrence played upon in prophecy to denote the loss of God's blessings on our harvests (and even wars destruction of our harvest land), the seasons for which are determined by the cycle of the moon. Harvests used to be determined by the Lunar Calendar, based upon the cycles of the moon. But the moon is also used to represent men who are enlightened of God (as the moon by the sun) and we find ourselves in a time when those enlightened ones seem to have gone dark. We can no longer find them.

The sun is used to represent sometimes God's scorching the earth as punishment for sin and at other times the sun is used to denote the light of knowledge received of God which in that case the darkening of the sun means men become locked in confusion as operating in the darkness with no real wisdom.

The end of this world is but a sneeze away my friend.

Agree.

First the earth was CLEANSED, and destroyed the UNCLEAN inhabitants.

Gen 6
[13] And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Soon the earth shall be PURIFIED, and shall destroy the UNCLEAN inhabitants.

2 Pet 3
[7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2 Pet 3
[10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

elements -
earth -
works -
burned up quickly, (one day event). 2 Pet 3:8

Natural men can not survive, without the elements, earth, works. Thus when those things are burned up, so too shall man on the earth, be affected by death, when God exacts His wrath upon the world.

Praise God, in his grace and mercy that He has excepted the faithful from His Wrath.

1 Thes 5
[9] For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

[3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[grasping the after wind]

It has been hidden for far too long. My only comment is this, most businesses have been terminating their accused, highly paid _______, yet our Congress thinks it is OK to use taxpayer dollars to pay off the women and just keep on working! We have an 88-year old that is still milking taxpayers for a gravy ride thru life, paying his sex slaves with tax dollars. Why is there no term limits in Congress?????
ronandcarol

For some reason the entertainment industry and the political realm are decades behind the rest of the country in dealing with this issue. Other entities have maintained no tolerance policies since the late eighties. There was a wave of changed attitudes and policies in corporate America around that time due to women speaking out and forcing the issue into the spotlight. Somehow the message never got through to those two spheres of influence in Washington and LA. Perhaps they thought that as long as they verbally championed women's rights they did not have to actually act as if women had those rights?

 

[SBC]

It has been hidden for far too long. My only comment is this, most businesses have been terminating their accused,

That's too bad, accusations are all that are necessary for a person to be terminated from his employ.

yet our Congress thinks it is OK to use taxpayer dollars to pay off the women

Numerous gov't reps, unlawfully use tax dollars for all kinds of things. That is not news.

However, concerning women who have this supposed horrible sexual advancement made on them, and the blah, blah, blah, sleepless nights, anguish, anxiety, need for medication, etc., etc. are suddenly cured and satisified because their bank account increased.....lol, ya right.

We have an 88-year old that is still milking taxpayers for a gravy ride thru life, paying his sex slaves with tax dollars.

Now the woman are willing participants?

Why is there no term limits in Congress?????

There are. It's called don't vote for them!
It's called be accountable. You apparently have FACTS and EVIDENCE you have an 88 yr old Rep that is using tax dollars to keep a stable of sex slaves.
If you Do not believe he is an upstanding Rep, use the system, with your facts and evidence, to do something about it!

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Archivist]

Women have used their looks and provocative clothing for eons to get attention, then cry wolf when they do. If you don't like being in a sticky situation, then don't put yourself in a sticky situation.

But a woman dressing to get attention does not give a man the right to touch a woman's body without permission. It is perfectly legal for women to go topless in the State of New York. That doesn't give any man the right to touch the chest of a topless female sunbather in Central Park.

 

[SBC]

But a woman dressing to get attention does not give a man the right to touch a woman's body without permission.

I find that funny. Ever seen a New York city street, subway, people at a sports event, and no one moving through a crowd touching each other? LOL And really, men or women topless, scantly dressed, think it sexual harassment because someone is looking?

ZERO tolerance in schools for kids to touch one another, whereas I know of a case whereby a second grade boy was punished for touching a female classmates arm, and the evidence was VALID, he signed his name on the cast on her arm! LOL how asinine!

It is perfectly legal for women to go topless in the State of New York.

My, my, that's shocking.....not!

That doesn't give any man the right to touch the chest of a topless female sunbather in Central Park.

And? So what? Who said it was?

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Waterwerx]

I apologize in advance if I am missing something, but how does your comment relate to the topic at hand? Women are getting unwanted sexual advances - - the current "Me too" campaign deals with advances experienced at work. If a woman does not want to be sexual with a man she is not married to, I don't think she should be criticized for speaking out against it. Talk to the women in your life. Do you think they should just shut up if they are harassed or raped? I think it is... I don't really have a word for it. Jesus was on the side of those who couldn't defend themselves, not mad at them for doing what they can to be morally pure.

It was a general response to a general question. Sexual harassment and rape are but two of the symptoms of the problem. My whole point is that the horse is being placed before the carriage or no carriage at all when it comes to sex, ergo the behavior.
In the absence of morality, when someone wants something, they will try to take it at any expense, including the expense of others.

 

[Christie insb]

It was a general response to a general question. Sexual harassment and rape are but two of the symptoms of the problem. My whole point is that the horse is being placed before the carriage or no carriage at all when it comes to sex, ergo the behavior.
In the absence of morality, when someone wants something, they will try to take it at any expense, including the expense of others.

Rape really isn't about sex. It's about violence and controlling people through power. This behavior also occurs when sexuality is repressed, and I do not believe most men are closet rapists. Most men want to share an experience with a willing, even enthusiastic, partner. These men who sexually harass women in politics and show business are not just wanting to have an affair. They want to dominate the women they have control over.

 

[Archivist]

I find that funny. Ever seen a New York city street, subway, people at a sports event, and no one moving through a crowd touching each other? LOL And really, men or women topless, scantly dressed, think it sexual harassment because someone is looking?

But the OP is about sexual harassment which is what I was addressing when I talked about touching a woman's body. I was not talking about bumping against someone in a crowd. Please read my response in context with what is being discussed in the thread.

ZERO tolerance in schools for kids to touch one another, whereas I know of a case whereby a second grade boy was punished for touching a female classmates arm, and the evidence was VALID, he signed his name on the cast on her arm! LOL how asinine!

If women hadn’t been abused over the years perhaps such policies wouldn’t be necessary.

My, my, that's shocking.....not!

New York is leading the way. It should be legal for women to go topless anyplace that men can go topless in all states. And no, I am not suggesting that women should go topless in public--that is a personal decision--but rather that those who do shouldn't be arrested for doing something that men commonly do.

And? So what? Who said it was? SBC

You were the one who raised the issue of women putting themselves in “sticky situations” based on what they were wearing. The fact is that it doesn’t matter what a woman is wearing, it doesn’t give a man any right to harass her.

 

[Rion]

Remember how in the 80's and 90's, many of the most virulent anti-gay speakers, the kind who didn't just disagree with the behavior but considered gays sub-human, would be caught in a gay tryst or some such? It's like that, except this time for feminists.

 

[Followers4christ]

I think with all these sexual harrassment or assault claims we have to remember that the suspects are innocent until proven guilty. As if we start firing them without any evidence and turn their lives upside down what if they are innocent? That can not be made right again just like this football team was kicked from the team and forced from the school just it to come back months later that the rape was all made up to get attention (story below). We can't destroy the lives of anyone till all the facts are in. But in this country we are quick to judge and even faster at destroying lives.

Police: Football players falsely accused of rape

Yes, false accusations destroy lives

 

[pat34lee]

Is it anti-man for women to save their sexuality for their husbands?

That is anti-feminist. The whole point to it is that they can do
anything that men do, good or bad. Sleep around, do drugs,
join the army, grope interns, ...all with no consequences.

 

[pat34lee]

But a woman dressing to get attention does not give a man the right to touch a woman's body without permission. It is perfectly legal for women to go topless in the State of New York. That doesn't give any man the right to touch the chest of a topless female sunbather in Central Park.

In that case, you're no longer talking rights, but acting
sensibly or not. We have the right to stick our hands in
an alligator's mouth, but who is stupid enough to do it?
And if they do, can you blame the gator when he bites?

 

[Christie insb]

That is anti-feminist. The whole point to it is that they can do
anything that men do, good or bad. Sleep around, do drugs,
join the army, grope interns, ...all with no consequences.

How many women have groped interns? The point is that these cases are women who do not want to be sexually involved.

 

[Christie insb]

In that case, you're no longer talking rights, but acting
sensibly or not. We have the right to stick our hands in
an alligator's mouth, but who is stupid enough to do it?
And if they do, can you blame the gator when he bites?

I am sorry you have such a low opinion of your gender. The problem is the more modest one dresses that the more men will 1. blame women for being their victims and 2. Ratchet it up until showing any skin will be an excuse to rape a woman.

 

[Archivist]

In that case, you're no longer talking rights, but acting
sensibly or not. We have the right to stick our hands in an alligator's mouth, but who is stupid enough to do it?
And if they do, can you blame the gator when he bites?

But we aren’t talking about gators are we? We are talking about human males who should be able to exercise self control.

 

[Open Heart]

There is no backfiring. This is the real thing. Both sides of the aisle have misused their power and women are so, so relieved to finally be able to talk about it.

I agree. Metoo is not about Republican or Democrat. It has to do with victims being made strong against their abusers. It's been a wonderful year.

Even I felt the courage to stand up against someone who kept making unwanted sexual advances despite my continued requests to stop, which made me feel horribly uncomfortable. Not really the same thing as abuse, but still awful in its own way.

 

[Dave-W]

Metoo is not about Republican or Democrat.

But it will eventually go there.