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Nah, it just says different things. That's why there are so many competing doctrines.
It's not "saying" different things......people are construing different things. Those different doctrines are typically divided on the same words (IOW...one group interprets the words one way....and the other a different way). It's not that some claim some verses and others claim separate verses.

If you were to read (forget where it's from for the moment) "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth"....what would that mean? Reading the same words on the paper......different people get different meanings out of the same words.
 
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It's not "saying" different things......people are construing different things. Those different doctrines are typically divided on the same words (IOW...one group interprets the words one way....and the other a different way). It's not that some claim some verses and others claim separate verses.

If you were to read (forget where it's from for the moment) "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth"....what would that mean? Reading the same words on the paper......different people get different meanings out of the same words.
We let that happen.
 
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I think you're reading into that, that does not say "we all deserve hell"

It explains why all people stand before God guilty of His judgment and wrath and worthy of Hell.

You don't need punishment (Suffering) to encourage change. That is the worst way to help someone rehabilitate.

Hell isn't meant to "encourage change"; it is meant to press sinners to the only means whereby they may escape the wrath of God: Jesus Christ, the Saviour.
 
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It explains why all people stand before God guilty of His judgment and wrath and worthy of Hell.



Hell isn't meant to "encourage change"; it is meant to press sinners to the only means whereby they may escape the wrath of God: Jesus Christ, the Saviour.
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This could be the most intelligent post primarymay has written!,,,,, Just kidding!!! Lol
 
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1 Corinthians 1:18
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
 
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1 Corinthians 1:18
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Actually it used to make sense to me, when I was a gullible sap, that believed in magic.
 
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The holy spirit wrote it, which is lesser than God?


Enough throwing pearls before swine....good luck primarymay...you are going to need it. God help your poor daughter
 
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1 Corinthians 1:18
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The truth in that is staggering. Praise be to God!
 
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Actually it used to make sense to me, when I was a gullible sap, that believed in magic.

I see. Well, maybe try a relationship with God now that you aren't gullible and don't believe in magic. It'll probably go a lot better.
 
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John 1:1-5

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
 
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John 1:1-5

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
That is such incoherent nonsense.
 
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