Could ANY conservative President not be hated? Thanks Trump...

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Yes, I understand the difference. If you want to focus on consent then, how about Bill Clinton and Juanita Brodderick.
I don't believe there was ever confession from Clinton, so this no different than allegations from women that Trump was perverted Peeping Tom on female children when they were in his teen pageants.

Interesting fact: By your standards Trump is a pedophile, yet you support him. Why do you support someone who is a pedophile by your standards?
 
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I don't believe there was ever confession from Clinton, so this no different than allegations from women that Trump was perverted Peeping Tom on female children when they were in his teen pageants.

Interesting fact: By your standards Trump is a pedophile, yet you support him. Why do you support someone who is a pedophile by your standards?
I didn't call Trump a pedophile. I wouldn't even call him an ephebophile, he could have pursued and civilly married someone a lot younger than Melania during those days, but he did not. I would call him indecent.

Furthermore, I am not a "Trump supporter." Him in the White House is better than Hillary Clinton in the White House. Mike Pence in the White House would be better by light years.
 
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You're claiming we are still in a recession?
No no no!!!!! The recession ended in January. All the best economists say so. Many have called me, you wouldn’t believe how many..... praised Mr. Trump for ending the recession on his first day! In fact he millions of people were still cheering the largest inauguration in the history of the world..... when the recession was brought to a screeching halt.
 
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Liberal haters have been hating conservatives since Goldwater, at least. They hate what isn't liberal. Trump just gave them additional excuses

Yes, excuses such as lying and criminal activity during his campaign and administration.
 
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Ok, if you call a trippling of the debt and continued unemployment a "recovery", knock yourself out!

Stay on topic - there's no need to bring up Reagan's presidency here.

I am amused that after repeated posts showing that claims that Obama doubled the debt were wrong the obvious reaction is to claim he tripled it.
 
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No no no!!!!! The recession ended in January. All the best economists say so. Many have called me, you wouldn’t believe how many..... praised Mr. Trump for ending the recession on his first day! In fact he millions of people were still cheering the largest inauguration in the history of the world..... when the recession was brought to a screeching halt.

8/10 - needs talk about an electoral landslide and less overall coherency to be believable.
 
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I didn't call Trump a pedophile. I wouldn't even call him an ephebophile, he could have pursued and civilly married someone a lot younger than Melania during those days, but he did not. I would call him indecent.

Furthermore, I am not a "Trump supporter." Him in the White House is better than Hillary Clinton in the White House. Mike Pence in the White House would be better by light years.
Please quit trying to make strawman and change subject.

You imply that Clinton sexually assault women because of accusations by one woman.

Numerous women have accused Trump of being pedophile and doing Peeping Tom behavior (Trump himself brag about doing perverted Peeping Tom behavior) on naked children.

By your standards Trump is a pedophile. Why do you support someone who is a pedophile by your standards?
 
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8/10 - needs talk about an electoral landslide and less overall coherency to be believable.
I’ll try to do better, comrade.
 
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You can use the definitions of economists, the government, or you can make up your own.

The lowest unemployment in 17 years is NOT continued unemployment.

The value of the debt is not related to the definition of recession or recovery.

By official definitions, the recession ended in June of 2009. The recovery began in July 2010. If you don't believe that the economy was in better shape in January of 2017 or now, then your understanding of the economy is different than an standard set of definitions.

The unemployment numbers dropped because after so many months of unemployment, they are no longer counted. They simply drop off the roles. A more accurate number is Workforce Participation. Under Obama it dropped significantly.

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This is why it became known as the "Jobless Recovery".
 
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Stay on topic - there's no need to bring up Reagan's presidency here.

I am amused that after repeated posts showing that claims that Obama doubled the debt were wrong the obvious reaction is to claim he tripled it.

You're right, it's didn't triple. It doubled. Sorry.

Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama

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Thus, the national debt under Obama will have grown by about $9 trillion, or an increase of 86%.

Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama

I can understand though, why you don't want this brought up.

 
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No no no!!!!! The recession ended in January. All the best economists say so. Many have called me, you wouldn’t believe how many..... praised Mr. Trump for ending the recession on his first day! In fact he millions of people were still cheering the largest inauguration in the history of the world..... when the recession was brought to a screeching halt.

7.5/10. Not enough exclamation marks. Not a single instance of all-caps.
 
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7.5/10. Not enough exclamation marks. Not a single instance of all-caps.
don't forget the random colors and bolding! :wave:
tulc(agrees: a solid 7.5 easily) ;)

The truth is embarrassing I know. But impuning, attacking and belittling the delivery of it doesn't change it.
 
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You're right, it's didn't triple. It doubled. Sorry.

Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama

58814485f10a9a6d008b926f-1200


Thus, the national debt under Obama will have grown by about $9 trillion, or an increase of 86%.

Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama

I can understand though, why you don't want this brought up.


It would appear that the sharp upward trajectory began before he took office though.

...let's be honest here, we all know where the logic flaw is here.

If the first guy gets the country into an expensive 10 year commitment before leaving office, and hands it off to the next guy, it's pretty easy to see why that would happen.

If I sign up for a high interest credit credit card, max it out, and hand it off to you and say "here, this is your problem now"...it's not your fault if it takes you a few years to get it back under control.
 
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The truth is embarrassing I know. But impuning, attacking and belittling the delivery of it doesn't change it.
Donald Trump doesn’t stand beside the still water, he stands on the still water.
 
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The truth is embarrassing I know.
Hey! I'm happy to see we can agree about that. :)

But impuning, attacking and belittling the delivery of it doesn't change it.
Ahhh! We were just trying to make the post a 10 out of 10. :wave:
tulc(likes to help as needed) ;)
 
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Please quit trying to make strawman and change subject.

You imply that Clinton sexually assault women because of accusations by one woman.

Numerous women have accused Trump of being pedophile and doing Peeping Tom behavior (Trump himself brag about doing perverted Peeping Tom behavior) on naked children.

By your standards Trump is a pedophile. Why do you support someone who is a pedophile by your standards?
You're making unsubstantiated claims about my standards. I'm attempting to correct your understanding of them. What I heard about the dressing rooms was that these were not prepubescent children, but teenagers. He walked through them which he shouldn't have done, but those conditions do not meet those of pedophilia.
 
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