Could ANY conservative President not be hated? Thanks Trump...

[KCfromNC]

That is correct. And that was my point. There wasn't any recovery.

If we ignore reductions in unemployment rates, some wage growth and the market recovering, you might be right.

 

[Albion]

Kobe Bryant's best scoring season was '05-'06 putting to rest any claims his career started in 1996.

But the claim in Obamas case was NOT that any particular year was his best. It was that a slow but steady recovery started in 2010--and that is not true (as I showed).

 

[Albion]

If we ignore reductions in unemployment rates, some wage growth and the market recovering, you might be right.

...only if we wind up on the uptick. But that did not happen with Obama;s career. He started in a recession and, eight years later, left us with that recession.

 

[PeachyKeane]

But the claim in Obamas case was NOT that any particular year was his best. It was that a slow but steady recovery started in 2010--and that is not true (as I showed).

You're claiming we are still in a recession?

 

[KCfromNC]

But the claim in Obamas case was NOT that any particular year was his best.

What are you talking about? I was replying to a direct quote of yours trying to extrapolate some meaning based on which particular year was his best :

"Plus, Obama"s best year was 2015, which puts to rest the claim that any"slow and steady recovery " began under Obama in 2010."

 

[KCfromNC]

...only if we wind up on the uptick. But that did not happen with Obama;s career. He started in a recession and, eight years later, left us with that recession.

This would be true except for all the actual facts of the matter.

 

[Albion]

What are you talking about? I was replying to a direct quote of yours trying to extrapolate some meaning based on which particular year was his best :

"Plus, Obama"s best year was 2015, which puts to rest the claim that any"slow and steady recovery " began under Obama in 2010."

To clear up any doubts, that is what I wrote. It is correct. So was my last clarification. What you said in reply did not rebut this statement but took up another issue that does not bear upon the claim of a slow but steady recovery. There was no steadiness but, more importantly, no recovery from the recession, either.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Trump is just a vicious counter-puncher. I wish I had half his confidence. I'd be breaking down if I got so many insane media attacks.

No.

Trump is just type of person that is attacks and takes advantage of people at their weakest and most vulnerable.. Trump University scam desperate people out of last dollars. Attack on Puerto Ricans after horrific disaster. In my opinion Trump afraid of fair fight because he knows he is not intelligent enough to win fair fight.

 

[KCfromNC]

To clear up any doubts, that is what I wrote. It is correct. So was my last clarification. What you said in reply did not rebut this statement but took up another issue that does not bear upon the claim of a slow but steady recovery. There was no steadiness but, more importantly, no recovery from the recession, either.

If only the actual facts backed up your faith.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

If only the actual facts backed up your faith.

When the Russians wanted their man in the White House they chose to influence the group they did for this reason. Give credit to Russians. Their plan and choices worked very well..

 

[Sketcher]

Liberal haters have been hating conservatives since Goldwater, at least. They hate what isn't liberal. Trump just gave them additional excuses. Had he run as a Democrat in 2004, they would have fawned over him however, and they would have glossed over his character issues just like they did with Clinton's.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

When the tax plan taxes effect and the economy roars to life as expected, we can pretty much expect eight years.

I tend to notice we get screwed with Conservative presidents. Who's going to pay the taxes. That the wealthy won't be paying. Let's not forget the land the government will have to pay for. Before the wall gets built. And let's not forget the taxes waisted on the wall. And what extra wars we get stuck into. And the money lost. When countries don't want to trade with us.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Liberal haters have been hating conservatives since Goldwater, at least. They hate what isn't liberal. Trump just gave them additional excuses. Had he run as a Democrat in 2004, they would have fawned over him however, and they would have glossed over his character issues just like they did with Clinton's.

I can not but notice that you offer nothing but your opinion. Then let me say I think your opinion is completely incorrect and offer mine: If Clinton had acted like Trump I think Liberals would have demanded his resignation, and not acted like today's Conservatives and supported such a deeply immoral man.

IMO Clinton's dalliance with Lewinsky does not compare to Trump bragging about being a perverted Peeping Tom with the naked women in his pageants. One was consensual, one was not. So we understand one and another, could you please confirm that you comprehend the difference? Thank you.

Add in Trump's constantly divisive and often racist remarks and we have someone far more flawed than Clinton.

 

[Sketcher]

I can not but notice that you offer nothing but your opinion. Then let me say I think your opinion is completely incorrect and offer mine: If Clinton had acted like Trump I think Liberals would have demanded his resignation, and not acted like today's Conservatives and supported such a deeply immoral man.

IMO Clinton's dalliance with Lewinsky does not compare to Trump bragging about being a perverted Peeping Tom with the naked women in his pageants. One was consensual, one was not. So we understand one and another, could you please confirm that you comprehend the difference? Thank you.

It wasn't just his affair with Lewinsky and his perjury about it. There were many other women he was inappropriate with.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

It wasn't just his affair with Lewinsky and his perjury about it. There were many other women he was inappropriate with.

I notice that you did not confirm you understand difference between consensual sex and Trump being perverted Peeping Tom on naked non-consenting women. Please confirm that you understand difference. Thank you.

 

[Veritas]

President Trump makes it easy to not like him. He's always scowling, tweets ridiculous things, has been caught on tape saying some very ugly things, and has shown himself to be a hateful, insulting, low-class, and generally dishonorable person.

The media and the left has gone to ridiculous levels of bias and hatred of the man and, it seems, of all conservatives. Even the comments by those on the left on a Christian site are dripping with contempt and hatred for fellow Believers who dare to be conservative.

We saw the universal love and admiration by the media of Obama. He could do no wrong and any possible scandal involving him, his administration, or his family was overlooked and not reported on.

If Trump leaves office for any reason before his term is up and Mike Pence becomes President, I think the media and the left will then attack him like a ravenous pack of wolves.

In fact, I am pretty sure ANY person no matter the color or gender, and no matter how nice or honorable of a person they happen to be who is conservative, will be mercilessly attacked by the modern media in America.

I did not support Trump for President because although I agreed with his political views, I despised his lack of character and his propensity for constant buffoonery. I think his utter failure to conduct himself in an honorable and respectful manner has ruined the chance for America to counter the destructive policies of the left.

He made it easy for the RINOs in Washington to not act on principle and instead further their own selfish and evil agenda of increasing power for themselves.

It seems you've bought into the media characterization of Trump. Is he perfect? No, but he's nowhere near the embecile you claim. The primary reason he was elected is because he is NOT a politician. He's also not a smooth talker and people knew that when they voted for him. The media is shooting themselves in the foot with all their fake news, the latest of which is Brian Ross's lie-filled report on Flynn that was later retracted and forcing his suspension. The fact that the media can make false claims that impact so many people (ie the stock market's huge drop) with little repercussion is astouding! Imagine if such a case happened under Obama? Maybe it's time to get over the personal distaste of Trump and look at the good he has accomplished...the good the media will never report on.

 

[Veritas]

Perhaps you've forgotten that the Great Recession started under GWB's watch with the Housing Crash. Obama's years were nothing but RECOVERY from that deep financial pit.

I know, because I more than refunded my 401k during Obama's tenure ...

Ok, if you call a trippling of the debt and continued unemployment a "recovery", knock yourself out!

 

[mark46]

To clear up any doubts, that is what I wrote. It is correct. So was my last clarification. What you said in reply did not rebut this statement but took up another issue that does not bear upon the claim of a slow but steady recovery. There was no steadiness but, more importantly, no recovery from the recession, either.

We need to use short sentences.

Do you believe that we are still in the recession that started in 2007?

Do you believe that we are in a new recession?

If we are not in the recession, then we are in the recovery cycle, the market have more than doubled.

 

[Sketcher]

I notice that you did not confirm you understand difference between consensual sex and Trump being perverted Peeping Tom on naked non-consenting women. Please confirm that you understand difference. Thank you.

Yes, I understand the difference. If you want to focus on consent then, how about Bill Clinton and Juanita Brodderick.

 

[mark46]

Ok, if you call a trippling of the debt and continued unemployment a "recovery", knock yourself out!

You can use the definitions of economists, the government, or you can make up your own.

The lowest unemployment in 17 years is NOT continued unemployment.

The value of the debt is not related to the definition of recession or recovery.

By official definitions, the recession ended in June of 2009. The recovery began in July 2010. If you don't believe that the economy was in better shape in January of 2017 or now, then your understanding of the economy is different than an standard set of definitions.