Christmas is a pagan holiday?!

yeshuaslavejeff

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“Tell them this: ‘These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.’ ”
Thanks for this,
I read it long, long ago, but it had not come to mind in decades now....
 
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Like you said, nonsense, why should anyone read nonsense ? (so no, I don't read your posts)
Do as you see fit. That will not deter me from addressing all the false, holier than thou, inflammatory information being posted about Christmas.
 
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Do as you see fit. That will not deter me from addressing all the false, holier than thou, inflammatory information being posted about Christmas.
Not to mention then when you bear false witness against individuals and groups,
tell things about them that are not the truth,
and defend those who break Yahweh's Word instead of honoring it.

Do as you see fit. ? Have to wonder a lot of the time.... just have to wonder ......
 
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And the golden calf was set up as a feast to the Lord...what's your point? Do you think God is different today than He was then?


EX 32:4 ~ Aaron fashioned a golden calf, and they said that was their gods.
EX 32:5 ~ Aaron built an alter and said tomorrow they would feast.
EX 32:6 ~ The next day they sacrificed offerings to "their gods", and did eat.

Gee ~ ummmmm duh ~ Of course God is no different today.

So what does that have to do with Christians around the world coming together to praise and worship Jesus on a particular day, in remembrance of His Birth, His Death, His Resurrection?

Do you somehow think they are sacrificing meat to foreign gods and then feasting on it?

Seriously what kind of Christian Church gathers together to worship foreign gods and then feast on foods sacrificed to some supposed foreign god?

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Seriously what kind of Christian Church gathers together to worship foreign gods and then feast on foods sacrificed to some supposed foreign god?

Perhaps a hint will help:
When Scripture was still being written, "there are many anti-christs among us"
and "when we (Apostles) die, the wolves that are circling now waiting to tear up the flock will do so" .....

It did not take very long....
 
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Speaking of Easter, if the intention of Christians is to commemorate Christ's death and resurrection, why is it on a traditionally pagan holiday and not on Passover, the day He actually died? Have you ever noticed the two are not the same?

Jews celebrate their feast days on certain DAYS.
Christians celebrate their feast days on certain DATES or DAYS of the week.

Yes I have noticed they are not the same. God didn't implement a calendar, men did, and men have changed the calendar from time to time, just like they do with the length of days.

The Georgian Calendar is the most used world wide, based on solar movement.
The Jewish holidays/feasts Calendar is based on solar and lunar movement.

They also make Calendars that have both the Georgian and Jewish feast days acknowledged, background about their feasts, and information about when their day and night begins and ends, if you are interested in having such a Calendar.


It looks to me (and I would suspect God as well) that we are so rebellious in our hearts, that even something done in His name is perverted and tainted with heathenism.... just like the Israelite's and the golden calf. Nothing new under the sun indeed.

Personally, I don't care to be included in your "we" example. However I do acknowledge men do rebel against God.

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Perhaps a hint will help:
When Scripture was still being written, "there are many anti-christs among us"
and "when we (Apostles) die, the wolves that are circling now waiting to tear up the flock will do so" .....

It did not take very long....

Nothing good takes long for corruption to set in.

Even the establishment of a Republic, didn't take long for the wolves to keep trying to turn it into a Democracy.

God Bless,
SBC
 
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Is it really actually possible you haven't read that portion !?!?
(I thought it was fairly commonly known among Bible readers seeking Yahweh's Kingdom )

Are you unfamiliar with HOW TO CITE what YOU CLAIMED WAS IN SCRIPTURE?

Hint ~ It is Book, Chapter, Verse Number. Try again.

EastCoastRemnant said:
Tell that to the Israelite's killed for making a golden calf and dedicating to the Lord...


What scripture are you citing that the Israelite's were killed for making a golden calf?

And perhaps you can add in HOW YOU talk to dead people, because I don't. lol

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Are you unfamiliar with HOW TO CITE what YOU CLAIMED WAS IN SCRIPTURE?

Yahweh is the guide for me, not man's rules. Sorry. If you care to be a Berean, you will have to learn to look things up yourself, with no reference at all. This should actually be a daily, ongoing activity ...... (no one can make you do this though) .....
 
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Nothing good takes long for corruption to set in.

Even the establishment of a Republic, didn't take long for the wolves to keep trying to turn it into a Democracy.

God Bless,
SBC

A republic is nothing more than a form of democracy.
 
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Yahweh is the guide for me, not man's rules. Sorry. If you care to be a Berean, you will have to learn to look things up yourself, with no reference at all. This should actually be a daily, ongoing activity ...... (no one can make you do this though) .....
So did Paul but he also said this.
1 Corinthians 9:19-21
(19) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
(20) And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
(21) To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
When one is participating on a forum like this one should observe the established conventions instead of a holier than thou, "I know a scripture that proves you wrong but go look it up for yourself."
 
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Yahweh is the guide for me, not man's rules. Sorry. If you care to be a Berean, you will have to learn to look things up yourself, with no reference at all. This should actually be a daily, ongoing activity ...... (no one can make you do this though) .....

Acts 17
[11] These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

SBC said to another poster who had made a claim:

What scripture are you citing that the Israelite's were killed for making a golden calf?


yeshuaslavejeff piped in and commented;
Is it really actually possible you haven't read that portion !?!?
(I thought it was fairly commonly known among Bible readers seeking Yahweh's Kingdom )

Actually, NO, I have not read, what DOES NOT appear in Scripture.

Yahweh is the guide for me, not man's rules. Sorry. If you care to be a Berean, you will have to learn to look things up yourself, with no reference at all. This should actually be a daily, ongoing activity ...... (no one can make you do this though) .....

Actually, NO, I have not looked up and found what DOES NOT appear in Scripture.

But since you claim Yahweh is your guide.......how about YOU actually show that to be true?

1 Pet 3
[15] But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

What is your REASON for agreeing with:

.....the Israelite's were killed for making a golden calf?

God Bless,
SBC
 
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Actually, NO, I have not looked up and found what DOES NOT appear in Scripture.
What bible are you using ? Are you looking like in a jw's version or something ?
If your Bible has exodus in it, you (well, maybe not you, but others ) can find it there, or look in got-questions if you like, it is there also, with a short explanation and also the Bible reference(s).
 
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1 Pet 3
[15] But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Since this is the reference you use, first of all are you a man ?
Second, there is nothing about the golden calf or the people killed that is a reason for my hope , so that is a wrong application of your choice. (you made a mistake)
 
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A republic is nothing more than a form of democracy.

No. They are two separate forms of governments, with some similarities.
A more in depth conversation about the differences, are not appropriate for this OP.

God Bless,
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What bible are you using ?

Deflecting again.

Are you looking like in a jw's version or something ?

Deflecting again.

If your Bible has exodus in it, you (well, maybe not you, but others ) can find it there, or look in got-questions if you like, it is there also, with a short explanation and also the Bible reference(s).

Deflecting again.

Just admit you have no scripture basis for agreeing with the Israelite's were killed for making a golden calf.

Perhaps you should actually read the book of Exodus and you might discover the Israelite's wandered around for 40 years. Ya think those were DEAD MEN wandering?

LOL

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Since this is the reference you use, first of all are you a man ?

More silly deflection.

Second, there is nothing about the golden calf or the people killed that is a reason for my hope , so that is a wrong application of your choice. (you made a mistake)

You imposed yourself on a question I asked to another poster. My conversation with the other poster, his comment, my question, had NOTHING to do with "HOPE".

The other posters comment was the Israelite's were Killed for making a golden calf.

Since you jumped into the conversation show in Scripture that that is true.
The other poster couldn't or didn't provide Scriptural support.....and neither have you.

Obviously you can't, and your choice of Bible, My gender, your hope, blah, blah, blah...are nothing more than an irrelevant deflection.

God Bless,
SBC
 
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