A PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA ... and beyond

[tulc]

College educated people today are funny and easy to make fun of. Note how many of those fancy PhD's it takes to prove things like "global warming" or "evolution" but it only takes a community college drop out posting online to prove it all wrong!

In America we don't cotton to respecting people just based on the work they had to do to get to the top of their field unless they worked hard to become a chief executive officer of a company...then there's NOTHING we won't give to them out of respect for their brilliance.

...ok...
tulc(is going to drink some coffee and move on)

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Only the fact that a college education today compares to about
a fifth grade education back then.

I hope you're exaggerating for effect here...because that's simply not true lol.

Take a look at some of things people assumed were true back in the late 1700's and it becomes quite evident that while these guys had some good ideas pertaining to how to govern a nation (compared to their Euro counterparts from that particular time period), they were pretty dumb compared to people from today in many other regards.

Keeping in mind, I don't mean that in an overly derogatory way... I would say the same thing about a person from 1300 compared to a person from 1750...as I would about a person from the year 900 compared to that person from 1300.

Knowledge in certain areas advances over time.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Only the fact that a college education today compares to about
a fifth grade education back then.

Doesn't something have to be true for it to be a fact?

 

[TLK Valentine]

But there are influences outside, people like George Soros, who created trouble, riots, wars, discord in nations.

Being a Naturalized American since 1961, George Soros isn't really what you can call an "outside" influence.

Of course, being a Jew in Hungary in the 30s and 40s, he's no doubt quite accustomed to being blamed for all a nation's problems.

 

[pat34lee]

What a strange thing to say...

You don't agree?

 

[pat34lee]

Doesn't something have to be true for it to be a fact?

Just how educated do you think we are today compared to them?
Look up Jefferson's and Washington's educations just for a couple.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Just how educated do you think we are today compared to them?
Look up Jefferson's and Washington's educations just for a couple.

Jefferson and Washington were exceptional men, arguably the best their era had to offer, born into privilege and given the finest education money could buy... to compare them to the average Joe of the present seems a little disingenuous, to say the least.

Furthermore, I find it highly unlikely that either of those distinguished gentlemen could hold a candle to Mr. Benjamin Franklin, whose father pulled him out of school at a young age because he couldn't afford it, and was consequently entirely self-taught.

Clearly, there were other factors at work.

 

[Ronald]

Being a Naturalized American since 1961, George Soros isn't really what you can call an "outside" influence.

Of course, being a Jew in Hungary in the 30s and 40s, he's no doubt quite accustomed to being blamed for all a nation's problems.

He's a saint in disguise, out for good will to all men.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

The following story is true, (which has been around for a while)

Gov. Dick Lamm’s speech at an 2004 “Immigration Overpopulation Conference” in Washington D.C. with Professor Victor Hansen Davis, author of “Mexifornia”, who commented on his book saying, “Immigration is destroying California, it will march across the country until it destroys America”

EIGHT WAYS BY Dick Lamm (although many other ways have been implemented as well)


"1. Turn it into a Bi-lingual or multi-lingual country. History shows that no country can survive this tension.

Scholar Seymour Lipset said, “The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.” Canada, Begium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed and ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.

2. Invent Mult-culturalism, encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

3. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.' Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'

4. I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, un-assimilated, under-educated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.'

5. Get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology...' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority.'

6. Include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum' -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will 'Balkanize' America as surely as Kosovo.'

7. I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multi-culturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'

8. In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally, he said, 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

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Following commentary reporter unknown:
"There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America Take note of California and other states. To date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book '1984.' In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength.'


Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream."
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QUESTIONS:
Does anyone disagree that this is happening in the U.S. and why?

Can we honestly identify this as a socialist movement?

Do we see this happening in other countries?

Finally, is this the plan of the U.N. to gradually remove each countries sovereignty, redistribute wealth and eventually create a "Utopian" One World Government with the idea that then and only then can we have world peace, solve world hunger, where everyone has the same and we all get along and live happily ever after?

Russians have different opinion on best way to destroy USA. I put my money on Russian experts. Not wingnut govenor. So far evidence support Russian experts.

 

[Belk]

Actually, it does. And deportation is the answer.

Nope. You don't get to determine their choices nor deport people simply because you disagree with them.

 

[Roseonathorn]

Isn't this where Finnjet sails to from Soedertaelje?

At least the big touristboats with candy and souvernires goes from Helsinki to main capital of Sweden, Stockholm and back, for small calm cheap trips for familyfun and such.

 

[Roseonathorn]

Russians have different opinion on best way to destroy USA. I put my money on Russian experts. Not wingnut govenor. So far evidence support Russian experts.

Are russians going to build another chernobyl in America too?

 

[Roseonathorn]

That sounds like a really solid business plan! You should start doing that. You can become an AMERICAN SUCCESS STORY by demanding a dollar for every time you are told you are un-American. All you have to do is say an enormous amount of un-American things.

That's the AMERICAN DREAM!

I have been tempted to visit sometime, when I acted they wanted me to Losangeles but I said no, when I make flowerdecorations some say they are so big so they suit Americans better but then again I have a big mouth and it gets me in trouble for more than singing. I might actually have an opinion and if I have taken a sleeping pill and tells someone that Trump would try a wig that look like His nice wifes instead and make himself a wreath around his head and dress like A hippie for a day to make America great and sing peacesongs i'd probably get looked up.

 

[Ronald]

Russians have different opinion on best way to destroy USA. I put my money on Russian experts. Not wingnut govenor. So far evidence support Russian experts.

Marxism? Socialism already in play.

 

[TLK Valentine]

He's a saint in disguise, out for good will to all men.

Aren't we all?

 

[Nithavela]

Doesn't something have to be true for it to be a fact?

2017

 

[TLK Valentine]

QUESTIONS:
Does anyone disagree that this is happening in the U.S. and why?

Can we honestly identify this as a socialist movement?

Do we see this happening in other countries?

Finally, is this the plan of the U.N. to gradually remove each countries sovereignty, redistribute wealth and eventually create a "Utopian" One World Government with the idea that then and only then can we have world peace, solve world hunger, where everyone has the same and we all get along and live happily ever after?

Let's skip to the only relevant question:

If this is indeed the problem, what's the Solution?

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Doesn't something have to be true for it to be a fact?

No?

 

[expos4ever]

Only the fact that a college education today compares to about
a fifth grade education back then.

Clearly untrue, and untrue to an absurd extent. Don't you realize that zany claims only detract from whatever legitimate arguments you may have?

 

[Roseonathorn]

In order to make an omelet you have to break some eggs. Just carry a lot of antimicrobial wipes to get rid of all the spit. (And remember it's just real American spit and that stuff is pretty good!)

Once you've made your first million I bet being spat upon and called all manner of horrible names will become much easier to handle!

I mean just look at Donald Trump himself! He had to face the continued scorn of old money Manhattan while he worked his way up from the most humble of beginnings. And lookit today! He's the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD! So powerful he can make nasty racial slurs to Native Americans while honoring them for their service to the country under a picture of Andrew Jackson!

You have to admit that money and power grease the skids a lot and make EVERYTHING easier for the holder of that money and power!

Why is American spit pretty good? Is it better than snail slime? Does it work against wrinkles? Snailslime is sold on internet, does it beat that? I think spit is all the Same unless it is severly sick. Never heard of American spitcream...Silverdollars I think was a pretty good though. I got one once but gave it to my husband that collects money. I reason like this, what I give; I bring with me, what I own, I leave behind and what I sow might grow if the weather is right.