Are there any Christians that don't believe in Creationism out there?

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Not true.
"The Lord said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.

I can't think of any reason you would call them the original version. It's quite obviously not the truth.

There are contradictions found in the three versions of the Ten Commandments contained in the Bible (Exodus 34:1-28, Exodus 20:1-17, Deuteronomy 5:1-21). How can all three versions be true if they are not the same? Exodus 34, the oldest version at about 950 BC, is from the pen of the “J” or Jahwist writer and is not one of which many have ever heard. The final commandment in this earliest version reads “You shall not boil a kid in its mother’s milk.” Why, we are led to wonder, was this original set of Ten Commandments rejected or replaced? The second version Exodus 20, from about 850 BC, was from the pen of the “E” or Elohist writer, but was greatly expanded about 560 BC by a group of people called the “P” or priestly writers. Did these writers, who added so much to the entire body of the Jewish Scriptures, do so because they judged the original version to be so woefully inadequate that it required major additions and editing? Does one alter or tamper with what one believes to be “The Word of God?” The third version, Deuteronomy 5 in about 625 BC, was from the pen of the “D” or Deuteronomic writers composed somewhere between the original writing of Exodus 20 and the expansion done on that same text some 400 or so years later. For example, the version in Deuteronomy did not offer as the reason the Sabbath must be observed the fact that God rested on the Sabbath, for the version of that seven day creation story had not yet been written. So this author states that the Sabbath is to be observed because the people of Israel must remember that they were once slaves in Egypt and even slaves must have a day of rest. Which of these versions of the Ten Commandments, we might ask, can qualify as “The Word of God?”
 
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For one thing, it brings people like you here to tell Christians not to believe in their Bible.
What further need has Satan, then to make good men spread heresy in the name of truth?
False. I have never told any Christian nor any other person any such thing.
 
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For one thing, it brings people like you here to tell Christians not to believe in their Bible.
What further need has Satan, then to make good men spread heresy in the name of truth?

Point taken -- for after all, what's a Christian without a literal Bible?
 
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Point taken -- for after all, what's a Christian without a literal Bible?
A mainline Protestant, an Anglican, a Roman Catholic, a member of an Orthodox or Oriental church--there are lots of options.
 
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A mainline Protestant, an Anglican, a Roman Catholic, a member of an Orthodox or Oriental church--there are lots of options.

Precisely. There are lots of options.
 
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Are there any Christians out there, other than those living in Europe, that do not believe in Creationism or ID?
I believe in Creationism.

I do not believe in Intelligent Design.
 
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Not true, AV -- they see the bigger picture because they study books, not worship them.
Fiction is larger than truth, and as it grows, truth gets harder and harder to see.

Eventually people stop looking.

And for those who don't, truth becomes harder to find.

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
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Fiction is larger than truth, and as it grows, truth gets harder and harder to see.

Eventually people stop looking.

Some stop looking because it's difficult; other stop looking because they think they've already found it.

Which one are you, AV?
 
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Not a bad thing to be.
Everything has it's place. The important thing to remember is that the Bible is literal and based on what they are now calling Paradigm. With the Bible creationists have a degree of agreement on what paradigm we are going to use. Evolutionists have conflicting paradigms.
 
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Everything has it's place. The important thing to remember is that the Bible is literal and based on what they are now calling Paradigm.

Wouldn't that have to be true for it to be an important thing to remember? And who is this nebulous "they"?
 
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It is against the rules to answer that question.
I answered it already in post #124:

"A mainline Protestant, an Anglican, a Roman Catholic, a member of an Orthodox or Oriental church--there are lots of options."

Since I broke the rules, why don't you report me?
 
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Since I broke the rules, why don't you report me?
My answer would have been a violation of the rules. I fact they tell me that there are times that it is against the rules just to quote the Bible.
 
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