The Book of Enoch may not be Canon but it is still a history book that is quoted by the Bible
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The Book of Enoch may not be Canon but it is still a history book that is quoted by the Bible
if some researcher states some finds and "Snopes" descides to say it's not true.... it's up to them to prove different.
1 Samuel chapter 17 verse 4Hey, so I've been reading and looking into the finding of giant skeletons all throughout history lately and I just wanted some opinions. Or if anyone else knows a lot about them I'd be down. Books to read, etc.
The eyes of that species of extinct giants whose bones
fill the mounds of America have gazed on Niagara, as
ours do now. - Abraham Lincoln 1848
This quote has spurred on an interest to look into them again.
Whether it was the hundreds of giant skeletons ranging between 7ft tall and taller being destroyed admittedly by the smithsonian institute after they took the findings from those who found them and that trusted the institute with their findings. Or the countless other occurrences and finds involving skeletons in the indian mounds, or in random places buried beneath the ground all throughout the globe, giants did exist, just as the bible tells us they did.
My question is again, not wanting to debate the existence of these finds, but just wanting more input on this topic. If anyone is well versed in these things, come at me. I'm down for all the evidence and books and sites and what have you that you've got. I just want to learn.
The book of enoch tells us what those weird giant "god" men that are depicted all throughout ancient civilizations that had no way to contact one another all coming down and teaching them how to smelt metals, use herbs for medicine, teaching them about the stars, etc. It even describes why they all have smilier histories involving these beings, how the people fed them, and served them until all the food ran out and the beings ended up eating the people. The book of enoch gives answers to these things, and I feel that the government is riding our history of the skeletons and our proof of the existence of giants so it becomes less obvious that the bible exists, and more likely that it's "aliens". Hogwash, aliens don't exist. Giants that came from the seed of fallen angels however...
Absolutely right brother! 9'4" actually is the height I found out after looking further into it just now haha.1 Samuel chapter 17 verse 4
Then Goliath, a Philistine champion from Gath, came out of the Philistine ranks to face the forces of Israel. He was over nine feet tall!
You know, it also strange that between the time Adam was driven out of the Garden, until the flood is relatively short. Yet by the time Noah is ready to build the ark, we have the antediluvians.
How is it possible, that even though with the "breeding" of the "Watchers" with the daughters of man, that women were able to give birth to children that would grow to 40' tall or higher?
How come man over the last 5000 years, has not evolved enough to have children over, in rare cases, 9' tall?
Look at nature. The largest mammal to give "live birth, produce milk" for their children to drink, is the blue whale. A newborn "blue whale" weighs around 30 tons! And look at its mother, how big is she?
In all honesty, how big of a uterus would a woman have to have to give birth to a baby that would grow 40 feet, or 450 feet, or even 4500 feet tall?
The biggest "natural born" baby in the world was born in 1878 to Anna Bates in Ohio, she herself, stood 7'11". The baby weighed 23 lbs, 12 oz, he was 28" long, but sadly, only lived 11 hours after birth. (See Guinness Book of World Records)
40 feet tall. That's almost as tall as a Semi-Truck and trailer. (53 feet)
I wonder how big a baby would have to be when born, to grow to the size of a semi-truck?
God Bless
Till all are one.
Sons of God is taken to mean godly men, as it does every where else in Scriptures. Daughters of men is taken to mean daughters of ungodly men. Angels cannot reproduce. An easy similar story in scriptures is how Israel was warned against the taking of wives of other peoples that were not Israel. The angels continue to exist as this states in scriptures.Thank you!! I've been saying this for years and in return have gotten some really silly stuff---like the usual answer is--the babies were normal babies that just grew tall! I've asked how tall are these so called fallen angels for it is from them that the height came. Were they "proportional"--would a woman live through the encounter to go on to produce such a giant. Would she even be able to breast feed the thing if she could possibly survive giving birth---it would take at least 6-10 women to keep up with the milk demands! One guy insisted that these women were very willing to mate with these fallen angels---Willing to be ripped up?--Right! They were lining up. "Little women" today are giving birth to normal sized babies. Their pregnancies are classified as high risk and have to be very careful and is usually by a C-section, their pelvic area can't handle the size. A normal sized woman giving birth to one of these giant babies would have been unable to carry such a size, much less give birth to one. Common sense is not big with these concepts.
Also have asked about the fact that there are angels that have wings. They are spoken of in the bible as some having 2--some having 6. Nothing anywhere about babies being born with wings. That would have made the birth even more difficult.
All angels in the bible are spoken of as male, they all have male names. Why would God make all male angels with the ability to reproduce and have no way to do so? Answer was--they were only able to reproduce after they fell! If they couldn't before---God would have had to recreate them to give them the ability to mate with women. They can not do this on their own. They can only appear human--they are not human, we were created lower than them. That makes God responsible for these creatures being born and then He wipes them off the face of the planet and everybody with them (they insist this is the real reason God send the flood!) He made it possible then He kills everybody for it!
Logic is just not something that these people have much of it seems. Even their answers to the obvious make no sense.
I've posted articles about the words giants and what the words "sons of God" and "daughters of men" mean--written by Jewish scholars and they dismiss them. I still have them if anyone is interested. I quite posting them cause they do not read them.
Sons of God is taken to mean godly men, as it does every where else in Scriptures. Daughters of men is taken to mean daughters of ungodly men. Angels cannot reproduce. An easy similar story in scriptures is how Israel was warned against the taking of wives of other peoples that were not Israel. The angels continue to exist as this states in scriptures.
I saw that, but like I said, it all in context is important. It is a bad habit to get into when we take a verse or line from something and build on it. Most of the anti-Judaic bias comes from people taking a line from the Talmud (which usually was part of an argument and that line was rejected) and then trumping it around as if it represents Jewish thought when again, the idea was presented and rejected. Context is important.We've already linked to this Ken. The very next sentence after the mention of the giants attests that he was in fact talking of giant men, considering in his very next sentence he says "Co[n]temporary with the whole race of men, and older than the first man, Niagara is strong, and fresh to-day as ten thousand years ago.".
But yes, having the whole paragraph definitely does help verify that he was in fact talking of giant humans.
I disagree. The phrase appears on 2 times in the OT. Once, when the "sons of God" took human women as wives. Why would it say human women? Isn't that the most obvious and redundant thing to say unless they weren't human? And the phrase appears in Job where the sons of God and satan stand before God (in heaven?) and petition for Job whom they are granted permission to do all to him but take his life. That isn't "mean godly men" that is people with the ability to manipulate the fleshly realm. In the NT we are called sons of God but that is specifically through Yeshua and then meant clearly as righteous godly men not mean godly men. Go outside of the canon and look at Enoch and even writings from other cultures that date back beyond Christ's time... and we have that phrase being applied to fallen ones.Sons of God is taken to mean godly men, as it does every where else in Scriptures. Daughters of men is taken to mean daughters of ungodly men. Angels cannot reproduce. An easy similar story in scriptures is how Israel was warned against the taking of wives of other peoples that were not Israel. The angels continue to exist as this states in scriptures.
The average height of men in the ancient near east was about 5' tall. There is a textual explanation that the Nephilim/Giants were appropriately 6'6", which would be like giants to a 5 foot tall man
Not THAT ancient lol, I was referring to about the time of the conquest of the holy landThere is no proof of how tall Adam and Eve and their children were. There are only skeletons of man after the flood.
Not THAT ancient lol, I was referring to about the time of the conquest of the holy land
Many people will deny the fact that there have been many many many gigantic skeletal remains found, not only in the continental US but South America and, in fact, the world over.
They will also deny that the Smithsonian has admittedly, as you have stated, destroyed, hidden or "lost" a wealth of actual hard core evidence of a giant race that existed on this earth.
To add to this botched archaeological operational activities, there was also a contest, on the internet, to see who could use Photoshop to produce the most true looking fake image. Many of the images were of gigantic skulls and other skeletal images.
This has prompted any skeptic to deem that ALL giant photographic evidence is fake.
However, there are numerous news paper articles from the US in the 1800's and early 1900's with articles of the findings of remains of giant proportions.
These, of course, are also written off as publicity stunts and random hyperbole.
However, look up L.A. Marzulli, Steve Quayle and Brien Foerster...... These guys have gone to great personal sacrifice, both physical effort and financial input, to search for the truth of the biblical fact of giants existing on this earth.
These three have found and investigated a large number of elongated huge skulls in South America and, through much trouble, difficulty and resistance, finally found three accredited laboratories, that are analyzing the DNA of several of these skulls.
The results of this DNA testing should be out any week now.
It will never cease to confuse me as to why Christians, who believe the bible to be the word of God, are so skeptical when modern research finds something that proves the bible to be true.
The archaeological field is controlled by a Darwinian motivated group of evolutionists. I can totally understand why they don't want any of this highly factual and credible evidence to surface and reach the mainstream media.
Their whole world IS going to come crushing down with all the focus on the fact that intelligence has not been gradually increasing, technology that is greater than what we have today had been lost and there were beings that were far greater in size than we humans and they possessed abilities and had knowledge that has been lost.
It is not life from other planets... It is that of angelic hybridization of the human race, that started before the flood and continued after that......
One more name to google.... Rob Skiba, who has three excellent books out, that deal with Genesis and all the events that bible believing people have not had the courage to believe in the past.
All the evidence that these people have unearthed, fought the cover up and presented to the world, with great opposition from both evolutionist and biblical people, is vast, solid and proves beyond any doubt that the bible is true in every detail... even the ones that boggle our simple minds.
So, don't believe the scoffers and deniers when you look into this stuff and your eyes are open to the wonders of the world before the flood and after that... even up to the last century.
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