What holidays do you think should be forbidden for a Christian to participate in?

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It is a false accusation.
It is also flaming.

If it were a lie it would be. What you are trying to do is to get all of us to bow to your will, there is nothing more Pharisaical one could get than what you are doing. You are saying in essence if we don't do what you say than we are sinners and not really Christians and that is against the rules too.

It would have been fine if you said personally I am against Halloween but you went way beyond that trying to make us clones of your ideas. Maybe read Matthew 7:5 before you judge and condemn us.
 
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Fantasy witches don't exist. Green-skinned women with warty long noses that cackle and hang in gingerbread houses in forests waiting for German children aren't actual things that have ever existed.

You are splitting hairs. They are still witches that represent the real thing or the real deal.
A person's fantasy representation of something real does not change what that thing is in reality. For example: If I made a fantasy image of a football player, that does not change what a football player is in real life. People would still know that the fantasy image represents the real deal unlike gnomes, and fairies, etc. (which are entirely fantasy).

You said:
The 1980's called, and they want their urban legends back.

-CryptoLutheran

I grew up in the 80's; and I am really thankful to God for growing up during that time period.

Anyways, do witches who look green, and have warts existed at some point in our history? Probably not, but stranger things have turned out to be true (That society thought was impossible before). But even if the witch that appears in Halloween is more than likely a fictional in appearance, that does not change who they are. They are still a representation of the real deal. For witches are real. You cannot say that witches are fake in Halloween if witches are real. Sure, they may not look exactly like that, but they are real. Just as a sheet on a person represents a detailed ghost like image of dead relatives that people have reported to have seen through out history. It is a representation or fantasy image of the real deal. Granted, I believe ghosts are demons in disguise (mind you). But the images people have reported to have seen are very real to them. They actually thought they seen their dead loved ones. Of course, demons have the power to deceive people.
 
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If it were a lie it would be. What you are trying to do is to get all of us to bow to your will, there is nothing more Pharisaical one could get than what you are doing. You are saying in essence if we don't do what you say than we are sinners and not really Christians and that is against the rules too.

Nowhere did I come out and say point blank that a person is unsaved if they participate in Halloween.
I also did not say to a specific person or persons that they were unsaved, either.
Nor did I use a derogatory remark or insult like you have done with me.

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It would have been fine if you said personally I am against Halloween but you went way beyond that trying to make us clones of your ideas. Maybe read Matthew 7:5 before you judge and condemn us.

I condemn the false belief and I am not looking to nail this down to one person or anything. My goal it to attack the belief and not the person (unlike you did with me).
 
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What holidays do you think should be forbidden for a Christian to participate in?

And discuss.
Not really forbidden, but based on their pagan origins, I'd say the days we shouldn't want to follow would be

Halloween, Christmas, Easter, April Fools, sunday "sabbath" and days like valentines day, st.pattys day, things like that. We should desire to do the things our Father asked of us in His Moadim (appointed times).

So feasts and times like
Passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, pentecost, trumpets, atonement, sukkot, and the biblical sabbath, as well as the sabbaths that correspond with the feasts that I just wrote about.
 
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It's actually the first day. We're supposed to give God our first fruits...
Gen 2:3 - Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
 
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Not really forbidden, but based on their pagan origins, I'd say the days we shouldn't want to follow would be

Halloween, Christmas, Easter, April Fools, sunday "sabbath" and days like valentines day, st.pattys day, things like that. We should desire to do the things our Father asked of us in His Moadim (appointed times).

So feasts and times like
Passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, pentecost, trumpets, atonement, sukkot, and the biblical sabbath, as well as the sabbaths that correspond with the feasts that I just wrote about.

Yes, the Saturday Sabbath is still the Saturday Sabbath. But in the New Testament, they met on the first day of the week for worship. There is also no repeat commands of the Saturday Sabbath, the Old Passover, and such things in the New Testament. Paul says in Colossians 2 that we are not to judge according to Sabbaths and that Christ nailed to the cross those ordinances that were against us. Paul essentially says in Romans 14 that we can worship any day of the week now. The only ordinances now under the New Testament is baptism and the Lord's supper.
 
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Let me ask you, my friends.
What list of sins really burns you up?
I mean, what are the worst possible sins you can think of?
False teachers and Phariseeism.
 
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If these are the only ordinances, why are you adding "no candy eating on Oct 31st" and " No wearing mask?"
Pharisees did things like that.
 
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Yes, the Saturday Sabbath is still the Saturday Sabbath. But in the New Testament, they met on the first day of the week for worship. There is also no repeat commands of the Saturday Sabbath, the Old Passover, and such things in the New Testament. Paul says in Colossians 2 that we are not to judge according to Sabbaths and that Christ nailed to the cross those ordinances that were against us. Paul essentially says in Romans 14 that we can worship any day of the week now. The only ordinances now under the New Testament is baptism and the Lord's supper.
They never met on sunday to worship in replacement of the biblical sabbath of the 7th day. Never did they do, or say this. They did meet on sunday, but this they did almost every day, because a lot of them were poor, and they'd pile their resources together to live without worrying about how they'd have their needs met, but in the book of acts we see constantly them keeping the biblical sabbath on the 7th day. Actually, something like 83 times they kept it, just in the book of acts.

They didn't command anyone to keep the sabbath on the 7th day because it was just a given. That's a very base line understanding of what it was to love and obey God. Although, there might not have been a command mandating people to follow it (in the NT, after the gospels), but Paul did give advice to those keeping the sabbath on the 7th day, and the sabbath days associated with the appointed times of the bible though.
 
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Let me ask you, my friends.
What list of sins really burns you up?
I mean, what are the worst possible sins you can think of?

Now, I want you to imagine an image in your mind of what these sins look like and I want you to put them on you as if you approve of them. Make a costume of these sins or act them out on stage. No explanation. Just display these sins upon your person every year. That is what I am getting at here. Why would you do that if you hate these kinds of sins? God hates all sin. So why would you want to display something on your person that God hates? Come on, my friends. Think about it.

I have a special hatred for legalism. It burns me up inside when I hear people talking about the need to maintain salvation through works. Such people not only end up in hell, but take people with them. I hate it and will not tolerate those who teach it.

I haven't found that costume yet.
 
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Nowhere did I come out and say point blank that a person is unsaved if they participate in Halloween.
I also did not say to a specific person or persons that they were unsaved, either.
Nor did I use a derogatory remark or insult like you have done with me.

It was very much implied, if your going to spout off you better make sure you come off the way you want before you imply that those of us who like holidays including Halloween are the worst sinners around and not Christians. Yes you implied we are not believers, you didn't have to say it outright.



I condemn the false belief and I am not looking to nail this down to one person or anything. My goal it to attack the belief and not the person (unlike you did with me).

baloney you have done nothing but attack those of us who like Halloween, not to mention not even knowing anything about it but talking points that are lies. Your ideas sir are lies and you know who the father of the lies you peddle is.
 
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Nowhere did I come out and say point blank that a person is unsaved if they participate in Halloween.
I also did not say to a specific person or persons that they were unsaved, either.
Nor did I use a derogatory remark or insult like you have done with me.

Maybe I should butt out but why start now. :) FWIW, you didn't even indicate that you were trying to get anyone to bow to your will. That's a common comeback to make you feel guilty about teaching the truth and it rarely if ever is really the case. It's at best, how some people "choose" to see it, at worst they know better but claim it just the same.

Kind of like the "who are you to judge me?" comeback when all one might be doing is speaking the truth, and the person who doesn't want to/and or is not abiding by the truth, is offended and shoots the messenger.

Common stuff, and you are likely aware of all that but just in case...don't worry about it.
 
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Maybe I should butt out but why start now. :) FWIW, you didn't even indicate that you were trying to get anyone to bow to your will. That's a common comeback to make you feel guilty about teaching the truth and it rarely if ever is really the case. It's at best, how some people "choose" to see it, at worst they know better but claim it just the same.

Kind of like the "who are you to judge me?" comeback when all one might be doing is speaking the truth, and the person who doesn't want to/and or is not abiding by the truth, is offended and shoots the messenger.

Common stuff, and you are likely aware of all that but just in case...don't worry about it.
That’s the type of response one gives when people bristle against legalism.
 
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I have a special hatred for legalism. It burns me up inside when I hear people talking about the need to maintain salvation through works. Such people not only end up in hell, but take people with them. I hate it and will not tolerate those who teach it.

And the people (Goats) in the scripture of the sheep and the goats that ended up in hell for not doing their works? How bout them? Bet you don't answer that. :)

It burns everyone up who would rather not do as they should. It surely burned the goats up. :eek: And for you to put out there that by trying to please God we will go to hell? I think I might take a very close look at my own backyard, and what I was teaching, very close.

And after you comment or don't answer that, and since I showed you where those that don't do certain works do go to hell, please tell us where in the bible it states people that do those works are sent to hell as you claim?
 
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And the people (Goats) in the scripture of the sheep and the goats that ended up in hell for not doing their works? How bout them? Bet you don't answer that. :)
They ended up in hell because they were goats.
 
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They ended up in hell because they were goats.

God hates goats? :)

I hope you aren't serious, thy ended up in Hell because they didn't take care of the poor, needy..so forth, or do the required works to prove we love God and care about his ways.... Easy Way Willy's

They talked the talk but didn't walk the walk
 
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