Are Christians allowed to eat pork under the New Covenant?

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Is it lawful for Christians to eat pork under the NC?

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QUOTE="BobRyan, ]IN the LAW of Moses.

"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18
"Do not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7

So then as you note - Jesus perfectly kept the Law of Moses - what is your point?

CHOW DOWN ON ALL HEALTHY FOOD!


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HEY NO !!! DOING all this , (which God desires all HIS children to do all the time, every day of life)
if it CAUGHT ON (if everyone did this (which is impossible, of course, today)

WOULD RUIN the economy ! )

(A lot of pastors told me this or said this)

(because the economy DEPENDS ON PEOPLE BEING SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thus BUYING drugs ) (the BIGGEST money-maker in the country/ world)
 
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Dig4truth said in post #574:

[Re: Matthew 5:17-18]

Where does it say 1st coming only?

It's other verses which require that. For Jesus did abolish the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law's commandments on His Cross (Ephesians 2:15-16).

Even when what one verse says appears plain, it can still be misinterpreted, such as by reading into it things it doesn't say, things which would contradict what other verses say. To arrive at correct doctrine, a verse in one place in the Bible must be compared with (qualified by) other, related verses elsewhere in the Bible (Isaiah 28:9-10; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Our doctrine must be based on what the entire Bible says (2 Timothy 3:16, Matthew 4:4), and not just on what some unqualified verses say.

An example of an unqualified verse would be John 3:36. We can't say it means all we have to believe is Jesus Christ is the Son of God. For John 3:36 must be qualified by, for example, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (and vice versa). We have to believe both that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He suffered and died on the Cross for our sins and rose physically from the dead on the 3rd day. So when John 3:36 is qualified, something is added to it, not subtracted from it. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 adds further belief requirements to John 3:36 (and vice versa). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 doesn't subtract, negate or contradict the belief requirement of John 3:36 (or vice versa).

Another way John 3:36 must be qualified is we can't say it means all that Christians have to do is believe for at least one moment during their lifetime. For John 3:36 must be qualified by other verses which show Christians will obtain ultimate salvation only if they continue to believe to the end (Hebrews 3:6,14, Colossians 1:23). And this is just one of the conditions the Bible as a whole shows must be met for Christians to obtain ultimate salvation (e.g. Romans 2:6-8; 1 Corinthians 9:27).

Dig4truth said in post #574:

[Matthew 5]

19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

This refers to the New Covenant/New Testament commandments/sayings (Matthew 5:19, Matthew 7:24-29) which Jesus, as the Christ (Matthew 5:17b, Luke 24:44-46), was just about to give in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:19 to 7:29).

Dig4truth said in post #574:

I made the point that Yeshua specifically said that He did NOT come to abolish the Law and the Prophets.

He meant the prophecies in them regarding His 1st coming (Luke 24:44-48).

Dig4truth said in post #574:

[Re: Jude 1:6-7]

It's clear that this verse has nothing to do with God's instruction about inappropriate behavior with animals.

It does, in that inappropriate behavior with animals would fall under the basic principle of going after strange flesh.

Dig4truth said in post #574:

Yeshua was not speaking against the commands of God, but the hardness of men's hearts.

Note that in Matthew 19:7-9, Jesus specifically contradicted the letter of the commandment in Deuteronomy 24:1.

Dig4truth said in post #574:

Do you mean the "holy, righteous, good and spiritual" instructions of Father God?

Note that the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law can still be good (Romans 7:12) even though we Christians have been delivered from it (Romans 7:6).

Dig4truth said in post #574:

[Romans 7]

25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

There the law of God would be the New Covenant law of Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21; Galatians 6:2).
 
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It's other verses which require that. For Jesus did abolish the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law's commandments on His Cross (Ephesians 2:15-16).


It was a simple point, Yeshua said that
He did not come to abolish the Law and Prophets, you say He did. I choose to believe Yeshua.


Even when what one verse says appears plain, it can still be misinterpreted, such as by reading into it things it doesn't say, things which would contradict what other verses say. To arrive at correct doctrine, a verse in one place in the Bible must be compared with (qualified by) other, related verses elsewhere in the Bible (Isaiah 28:9-10; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Our doctrine must be based on what the entire Bible says (2 Timothy 3:16, Matthew 4:4), and not just on what some unqualified verses say.

An example of an unqualified verse would be John 3:36. We can't say it means all we have to believe is Jesus Christ is the Son of God. For John 3:36 must be qualified by, for example, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (and vice versa). We have to believe both that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He suffered and died on the Cross for our sins and rose physically from the dead on the 3rd day. So when John 3:36 is qualified, something is added to it, not subtracted from it. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 adds further belief requirements to John 3:36 (and vice versa). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 doesn't subtract, negate or contradict the belief requirement of John 3:36 (or vice versa).

Another way John 3:36 must be qualified is we can't say it means all that Christians have to do is believe for at least one moment during their lifetime. For John 3:36 must be qualified by other verses which show Christians will obtain ultimate salvation only if they continue to believe to the end (Hebrews 3:6,14, Colossians 1:23). And this is just one of the conditions the Bible as a whole shows must be met for Christians to obtain ultimate salvation (e.g. Romans 2:6-8; 1 Corinthians 9:27).



That's all fine and good but what the way you are interpreting Scripture is different. The equivalent comparison would be that while the verse in John 3 states you must believe, you would be saying that you don't have to believe. You see the difference? You were not adding to the meaning, you were stating the exact opposite of the clear and intended meaning. (Not annulling and annulling)

But let's look at the text in context:

John 3:34-36 For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for He gives the Spirit without measure.35 The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

So Yeshua speaks the words of God. Notice that it does not say that He annuals them.

Notice that belief is inclusive of obedience.

If you put those together then you have Yeshua speaking His Father's words (not annulling them) and that our salvation depends on us believing and obeying Him.



This refers to the New Covenant/New Testament commandments/sayings (Matthew 5:19, Matthew 7:24-29) which Jesus, as the Christ (Matthew 5:17b, Luke 24:44-46), was just about to give in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:19 to 7:29).


Where in the scriptures does it make that point? Where do you find that the commands of Yeshua are different from the Father's commands? In fact what we do see is that the words that Yeshua speaks are not His own but what the Father has given Him to say.

We also know that to add or to remove from the Law and the Prophets is a sin. Is this what you are claiming that Yeshua did?




He meant the prophecies in them regarding His 1st coming (Luke 24:44-48).


Yes, you've said that before but where is the scriptural evidence? What I read in the Scripture is that ALL things must be fulfilled, not just His first coming.




It does, in that inappropriate behavior with animals would fall under the basic principle of going after strange flesh.


That passage is about the fallen angels and not the command about humans and animals. Also it is just an description of this historical account, it is not even in the form of a command.

We have a boatload of verses that speak about the Sabbath, does that mean that the Sabbath is still a command we should observe?




Note that in Matthew 19:7-9, Jesus specifically contradicted the letter of the commandment in Deuteronomy 24:1.


Not in anyway is there a contradiction. Yeshua was simply filling the meaning to its fullness.

Also, if Yeshua was deliberately contradicting His Father's commands that would be a sin. Is this what you are accusing Yeshua of?




Note that the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law can still be good (Romans 7:12) even though we Christians have been delivered from it (Romans 7:6).


Oh, not just "good" but holy, spiritual and righteous!
Is this the thing that Yeshua is delivering us from? All this time I thought it was sin.



There the law of God would be the New Covenant law of Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21; Galatians 6:2).


Again, Yeshua did not speak on His own but what His Father gave Him to speak. His Father's words will not contradict each other nor will they be annulled before heaven and earth would be destroyed. At least that's what the Scripture says, I understand that is not what you are saying. Which is why I'm not going to argue the point any longer with you. Believe what you want to believe.[/QUOTE]
 
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Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic Laws.

IN the LAW of Moses.

"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18
"Do not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7

So then as you note - Jesus perfectly kept the Law of Moses - what is your point?

CHOW DOWN ON ALL HEALTHY FOOD!

Which was God's point all along -- see Genesis 1.

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HEY NO !!!

DOING all this , (which God desires all HIS children to do all the time, every day of life)
if it CAUGHT ON (if everyone did this (which is impossible, of course, today)

WOULD RUIN the economy ! )

(A lot of pastors told me this or said this)

(because the economy DEPENDS ON PEOPLE BEING SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thus BUYING drugs ) (the BIGGEST money-maker in the country/ world)


You have a good point - they have free will and can reject whatever they wish :)
 
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Gen 1:29-31 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have givenevery green plant for food”; and it was so. 31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.


Gen 9:1-4 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given. 3 Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4 Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.


Lev 11:1-2 The Lord spoke again to Moses and to Aaron, saying to them,2 “Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘These are the creatures which you may eat from all the animals that are on the earth.



First we have God's ideal system, vegetarian, no death.

Next we have the result of sin in the world, death of an animal to eat.

Then we have what God desires for His people in this fallen world. Even though we live in a sin cursed world we can be set-apart (holy) from the rest of the world. Eating only clean animals without the blood we can point to a holy God in a fallen world.


The question is, as always, are you a part of God's people?

If so, then eat like you are set apart. If not, it really doesn't matter anyway what you eat.
 
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Dig4truth said in post #583:

Yeshua said that He did not come to abolish the Law and Prophets . . .

He meant the prophecies in them regarding His 1st coming (Luke 24:44-48). For He did come to abolish the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, on His Cross (Ephesians 2:15-16).

Dig4truth said in post #583:

Yeshua speaks the words of God. Notice that it does not say that He annuals them.

Note that God the Father had Jesus annul the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Hebrews 7:18-19). For example, God the Father had Him contradict Deuteronomy 24:1 in Matthew 19:7-9.

Similarly, note that the now-abolished letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Ephesians 2:15-16, Colossians 2:14-17, Romans 7:6) permitted a divorced woman to marry someone else (Deuteronomy 24:2). But if her 2nd marriage ended, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law forbade her to remarry her 1st husband (Deuteronomy 24:4). The New Covenant rules turn this on its head. For now a woman divorced from a valid husband can't marry anyone else (Mark 10:12, Luke 16:18b), but she can remarry her valid husband (1 Corinthians 7:11).

Dig4truth said in post #583:

Where do you find that the commands of Yeshua are different from the Father's commands?

Jesus' New Covenant commands are the Father's new commands (John 12:49).

Dig4truth said in post #583:

We also know that to add or to remove from the Law and the Prophets is a sin.

For anyone but God.

Dig4truth said in post #583:

We have a boatload of verses that speak about the Sabbath, does that mean that the Sabbath is still a command we should observe?

If you want to (Romans 14:5).

Dig4truth said in post #583:

Oh, not just "good" but holy, spiritual and righteous! Is this the thing that Yeshua is delivering us from?

Jesus has delivered us from the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Romans 7:6) because while it's holy in itself (Romans 7:12), it was the ministration of death toward us sinners (2 Corinthians 3:7).

Dig4truth said in post #583:

His Father's words will not contradict each other . . .

Note they can over time. For example, compare what Genesis 22:2 and Genesis 22:12 say, to see how God's command can change.

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Dig4truth said in post #586:

The question is, as always, are you a part of God's people?

If so, then eat like you are set apart.

Note that God's New Covenant people don't need to worry about what they eat (Romans 14:17, Colossians 2:16-17).
 
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He meant the prophecies in them regarding His 1st coming (Luke 24:44-48). For He did come to abolish the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, on His Cross (Ephesians 2:15-16).



Note that God the Father had Jesus annul the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Hebrews 7:18-19). For example, God the Father had Him contradict Deuteronomy 24:1 in Matthew 19:7-9.

Similarly, note that the now-abolished letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Ephesians 2:15-16, Colossians 2:14-17, Romans 7:6) permitted a divorced woman to marry someone else (Deuteronomy 24:2). But if her 2nd marriage ended, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law forbade her to remarry her 1st husband (Deuteronomy 24:4). The New Covenant rules turn this on its head. For now a woman divorced from a valid husband can't marry anyone else (Mark 10:12, Luke 16:18b), but she can remarry her valid husband (1 Corinthians 7:11).



Jesus' New Covenant commands are the Father's new commands (John 12:49).



For anyone but God.



If you want to (Romans 14:5).



Jesus has delivered us from the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Romans 7:6) because while it's holy in itself (Romans 7:12), it was the ministration of death toward us sinners (2 Corinthians 3:7).



Note they can over time. For example, compare what Genesis 22:2 and Genesis 22:12 say, to see how God's command can change.

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Note that God's New Covenant people don't need to worry about what they eat (Romans 14:17, Colossians 2:16-17).



Jesus has delivered us from the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Romans 7:6) because while it's holy in itself (Romans 7:12), it was the ministration of death toward us sinners (2 Corinthians 3:7).


Well, saying the same things over and over don't make it so. But I'll touch on one point.

Romans 7 is a love story. We know that God chose Israel out of all the nations on the earth. He married her!

Like most all love stories something goes wrong. Israel played the harlot to the point where God had to divorce her.

Now the plot gets very interesting! God declares that He will again marry Israel. But how can this be? The very words of the Father says that you cannot remarry a woman after a divorce that has married another man. (Deut 24)

Enter in Romans 7. Once the original husband dies he is free from this law.

Yeshua came to die so that He could reconcile Israel back to God. That is what is being described in Romans 7, not some cancellation of God's commands but a release of one command based on the death of the Messiah. It is a love story.

It also equates our death to the letter of the Law so that we can marry another, the Messiah.

Paul makes it abundantly clear that it was not the Law that needed to die but we ourselves to the Law. So that now its role of condemnation because of sin is now one of obedience to the Law in the spirit.

What we could not do because of our flesh we can now do in the spirit.

Rom 7:5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in [c]the members of our body to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.


It is our love story. If Yeshua had not come to die and defeat death thru the resurrection we would have no chance of being saved (married to Him). But He did, and now we can serve Him in newness of spirit and not in the oldness of the flesh (which the Law can only condemn).

It's the greatest love story in the history of the earth, I hope no one misses it.
 
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Interesting idea - but not what can be supported from the text.

Jesus is not trying to 'solve the problem' for the Jews of his day - of commands like "do not take God's name in vain" (for example) or "do not covet" or "honor your parents".

When He said 17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; " He uses a phrase that means "all of scripture" to His hearers. Like saying "Do not think that I came to delete the Bible".

He is being charged as a sinner as a law breaker - as one who opposes scripture. His argument is that those who attack him, his enemies that falsely accuse Him on that point -- are wrong... dead wrong.


Matt 5
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

In the remainder of the chapter He goes on to show how scripture is 'magnified' in His teaching --- not deleted. And He shows how man's traditions are being diminished in His teaching.

Does it again in Mark 7:k6-13 with even more force used for condemning those who would edit/delete/set-aside the "Word of God".

There was no concept at all in all of scripture saying that once the Passover type was fulfilled in the Messiah - that it would be ok then to "Take God's name in vain". They had no such teaching and had no such "desire" to be freed from such commands found in scripture.

I think we all know that.


He meant the prophecies in them regarding His 1st coming (Luke 24:44-48). For He did come to abolish the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, on His Cross (Ephesians 2:15-16).

I see... so then "Do not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7 is deleted by Christ to make sure we don't need to be concerned with such things?
 
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Dig4truth said in post #592:

Israel played the harlot to the point where God had to divorce her.

That's right.

For Jeremiah 3:8 refers to God divorcing Israel for adultery during Old Covenant times. But note that under the New Covenant, men aren't allowed by God to divorce their wives for adultery, but only for pre-marital fornication (Matthew 19:9) not discovered until after their wedding. Also, even after God divorced Israel, He said He was still married to Israel and wanted Israel to return to Him (Jeremiah 3:14). It's the same under the New Covenant: a woman divorced from a valid husband is still married to Him in God's eyes. That's why if she marries another man, she's committing adultery against her valid husband (Mark 10:12), and her new husband is committing adultery against him (Luke 16:18b). Under the New Covenant, the only choices for a woman divorced from a valid husband, are to remain unmarried or to remarry her valid husband (1 Corinthians 7:11), just as divorced Israel will eventually remarry God (Hosea 2:19-20, Isaiah 54:5-10, Isaiah 62:5b).

Dig4truth said in post #592:

But how can this be? The very words of the Father says that you cannot remarry a woman after a divorce that has married another man. (Deut 24)

Enter in Romans 7. Once the original husband dies he is free from this law.

Yeshua came to die so that He could reconcile Israel back to God. That is what is being described in Romans 7, not some cancellation of God's commands but a release of one command based on the death of the Messiah. It is a love story.

It also equates our death to the letter of the Law so that we can marry another, the Messiah.

Are you saying that Israel, divorced from the Father, will marry another, the Messiah?

If so, note Romans 7:2-3 shows that a woman who has a valid husband can marry someone else only if her husband dies. Are you saying God the Father has died, or will die? Or are you saying Israel still has God the Father as a husband, and isn't divorced from Him?

Also, note Romans 7:2-3 doesn't refer to a divorced woman. For the Old Covenant Mosaic law did allow a divorced woman to marry another man while her 1st husband was still alive (Deuteronomy 24:2).

Also, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law has already been completely and forever abolished for both Jews and Gentiles (Ephesians 2:15-16). And under the New Covenant, which is now in effect for both Jews and Gentiles (Hebrews 12:24, Hebrews 9:15), a woman isn't allowed to marry another person after divorcing a valid husband (1 Corinthians 7:11, Mark 10:12).
 
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BobRyan said in post #593:

I see... so then "Do not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7 is deleted by Christ to make sure we don't need to be concerned with such things?

Note that the basic principle of the 3rd of the 10 commandments (Deuteronomy 5:11) was brought into, and even amplified in the New Covenant to include our actions and not just our words (Titus 1:16). That is, we can profess the name of the LORD/YHWH, but we do so in vain if we don't obey Jesus Christ and God the Father's New Covenant commandments (Matthew 7:21, Hebrews 5:9, Luke 6:46).

And note that the New Covenant commandments don't forbid eating pork.
 
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That's right.

For Jeremiah 3:8 refers to God divorcing Israel for adultery during Old Covenant times. But note that under the New Covenant, men aren't allowed by God to divorce their wives for adultery, but only for pre-marital fornication (Matthew 19:9) not discovered until after their wedding. Also, even after God divorced Israel, He said He was still married to Israel and wanted Israel to return to Him (Jeremiah 3:14). It's the same under the New Covenant: a woman divorced from a valid husband is still married to Him in God's eyes. That's why if she marries another man, she's committing adultery against her valid husband (Mark 10:12), and her new husband is committing adultery against him (Luke 16:18b). Under the New Covenant, the only choices for a woman divorced from a valid husband, are to remain unmarried or to remarry her valid husband (1 Corinthians 7:11), just as divorced Israel will eventually remarry God (Hosea 2:19-20, Isaiah 54:5-10, Isaiah 62:5b).


You are misunderstanding the Scripture here.
There are two phrases that is being used. One is "put away" and the other is "cirtificate of divorce".

If a husband "puts away" his wife, without a cirtificate of divorce, and she marries another then it is adultery. She was not legally divorced from her original husband.

If she is given a "cirtificate of divorce" then she is allowed to remarry.



Are you saying that Israel, divorced from the Father, will marry another, the Messiah?


Are you saying that the Father and the Son are not One?



If so, note Romans 7:2-3 shows that a woman who has a valid husband can marry someone else only if her husband dies. Are you saying God the Father has died, or will die? Or are you saying Israel still has God the Father as a husband, and isn't divorced from Him?


She can remarry also if she has a cirtificate of divorce.
I'm saying the Father and the Son are One. Yeshua said, "I and the Father are One". He also said that "He who has seen Me has seen the Father".


Also, note Romans 7:2-3 doesn't refer to a divorced woman. For the Old Covenant Mosaic law did allow a divorced woman to marry another man while her 1st husband was still alive (Deuteronomy 24:2).


You are correct, that passage is only speaking about the death of the husband and not divorce. This does not mean that there is no divorce, it's just not talking about it.

The New Covenant allows remarriage if one is divorced.



Also, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law has already been completely and forever abolished for both Jews and Gentiles (Ephesians 2:15-16). And under the New Covenant, which is now in effect for both Jews and Gentiles (Hebrews 12:24, Hebrews 9:15), a woman isn't allowed to marry another person after divorcing a valid husband (1 Corinthians 7:11, Mark 10:12).


Yeh, I thought this was a strange post. Building upon you presuppositions, you will never get to the truth, in my opinion.
 
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Interesting idea - but not what can be supported from the text.

Jesus is not trying to 'solve the problem' for the Jews of his day - of commands like "do not take God's name in vain" (for example) or "do not covet" or "honor your parents".

When He said 17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; " He uses a phrase that means "all of scripture" to His hearers. Like saying "Do not think that I came to delete the Bible".

He is being charged as a sinner as a law breaker - as one who opposes scripture. His argument is that those who attack him, his enemies that falsely accuse Him on that point -- are wrong... dead wrong.


Matt 5
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

In the remainder of the chapter He goes on to show how scripture is 'magnified' in His teaching --- not deleted. And He shows how man's traditions are being diminished in His teaching.

Does it again in Mark 7:k6-13 with even more force used for condemning those who would edit/delete/set-aside the "Word of God".

There was no concept at all in all of scripture saying that once the Passover type was fulfilled in the Messiah - that it would be ok then to "Take God's name in vain". They had no such teaching and had no such "desire" to be freed from such commands found in scripture.

I think we all know that.


He meant the prophecies in them regarding His 1st coming (Luke 24:44-48). For He did come to abolish the letter of the commandments of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, on His Cross (Ephesians 2:15-16).

I see... so then "Do not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7 is deleted by Christ to make sure we don't need to be concerned with such things?

"Law AND prophets" == ALL of scripture known to mankind at the time Christ spoke those words.

Note that the basic principle of the 3rd of the 10 commandments (Deuteronomy 5:11) was brought into, and even amplified in the New Covenant to include our actions and not just our words (Titus 1:16).

No doubt that God magnified His Law.

And btw the NEW Covenant is in the OLD testament.

"this IS the New Covenant... I will write My LAW on their heart" - Jer 31:31-33 - that moral law known to Jeremiah included the TEN commandments - most certainly. But as Christ points out in Matt 5 "the Law AND the prophets" .... scripture

The OT New Covenant is unchanged in the NT - as we see in Hebrews 8:6-10.

But "16 They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed." is not a quote of anyone of the Ten Commandments. Though it includes them all just as "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
 
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Acts 10

9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


'Nuff said.
 
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Acts 10

9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


'Nuff said.



Blood drinker? Really?

There was "all kinds" of four footed animals and birds, why wouldn't he just eat the clean ones? It wasn't because of any instruction of God, but of the traditions of man.

It was those same traditions that considered some men to be outside the reach of the Gospel. Peter got the message and it wasn't about food.
 
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Acts 10

9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


'Nuff said.

Stopped short of Peter's own full explanation of it...Did you mean "nuff read"??

There is no "God's approval of all food" in Acts 11 -- in the actual Word of God.

Thus the response to eating rats and snakes was to respond as if this were some sort of test of faith.


17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?

22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
...

25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.

28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Peter is uncertain about the meaning of the vision until the 3 gentiles arrive with their request then instead of concluding "God has shown me that I should call no rat-sandwich unclean" he says but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

And of course there was no "law" in scripture that Jews could not keep company with a gentile... it was a "man-made-law"
 
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