"I want to believe, but it all sounds so fake."

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There is no real way to ruin it. He is without excuse that there is a God. Nature tells him that God exists, but his foolish heart has been darkened because of his sin and desire not to be with God. The Lord also will find another to witness to him if you are not the one to do it correctly; Or God knows they simply may not ever want God in their lives. Yes, we should do our best to be a good witness and let the love of Christ shine through us and to pray for him, or lay hands on him, or show him evidences for God's Word and or defend the faith, but ultimately it will be God working on their heart. Ultimately it is their decision.

Remember, it is written, we just plant seeds another waters and God gives the increase.

People have been convicted of their sin and repented just watching a false prosperity preacher on TV. If they are being convicted by God and their heart is open, God can use many things in life to get them to repent.


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I would say the best response would be to say "what do you mean it sounds so fake?" Have him explain what he means, compare his beliefs to your beliefs. For example.

Which sounds more reasonable?

1) God created the universe
2) The universe came into being by nothing, from nothing.
 
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Friend of mine is 18 years old. Not from a Christian home. Good kid, but his life has been difficult with low paying job, no education, etc....

He has said to me several times, that he really wants to learn more about Christ, but he is having a hard time because it all "sounds so fake". I have asked him to join me at church, but he is too skeptical.

I have been praying for him. What is the best response to "I want to believe, but it all sounds so fake."?

Your response should be to prove that it is not fake.

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Friend of mine is 18 years old. Not from a Christian home. Good kid, but his life has been difficult with low paying job, no education, etc....

He has said to me several times, that he really wants to learn more about Christ, but he is having a hard time because it all "sounds so fake". I have asked him to join me at church, but he is too skeptical.

I have been praying for him. What is the best response to "I want to believe, but it all sounds so fake."?


Frankly, there are a lot of fake and bad groups out there.

I do not think anyone can read the Gospels and come away arguing, sanely or reasonably, that this was faked. Generally, atheists and "the world" are very mixed about this. By which I mean, the only critic I have ever come across in several decades as an adult Christian has been Nietzsche, the famous philosopher.

Obviously, we have all heard of how modern cynics believe Jesus was not a real person, but if you want to actually look for anyone hitting at the things Jesus said and really taking it all apart? Forget about it. Nobody does that.

I read, I think, all the books on the subject by the atheist leader Dawkins, who admittedly, has human genius, but him (and Sagan, notably for me), both are complete knuckle dragging idiots when it comes to Scripture.

Just as Jesus called folks who were unbelievers "hypocrites" because they could process complicated weather signs noting impending storms... so, too, are modern "worldly wise" people absolute laughable, hard to even comprehend how they can be so stupid about Scripture. Yet dare approach it as if they had something to add.

Neither Dawkins nor Sagan did so. Nor will anyone of their kind.

Rather, if one looks at what Jesus said and did, one can only come to the conclusion that Jesus somehow literally lived exactly what he taught.

And that "no one ever spoke the way He did".

But, the fact of the matter is, what Jesus taught is put into modern, Christianized society's concept of "heroic". So, really it is a done deal.

While your friend is apparently ignorant of what Jesus taught, invariably, he will have grown up looking at hero and heroine from all sorts of modern stories expressing their heroic by the very virtue Jesus taught.

Every time you see a movie or tv plot where the hero or heroine "saves the world", remember that.

So, not sure what your friend thinks is fake.

Turning the other cheek? Trying to save people? Loving your very enemies? Going the extra mile? Being more then appearances may show? And on and on and on.

As for the miraculous, I have found, bizarre, and painfully (to me), very many actually never have had any significant glimpse of the miraculous or heavenly.

That is another matter.

Plenty of saved Christians have only the most abstract of evidence. Plenty have something noteworthy, but rare. But, there are a lot of groups that talk and talk about being God's best friend and Heaven's only confidante... and have zero real experience.

Talk, but, somehow... no one ever really sees anything or ever really has anything happen.

That is a warning sign.
 
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Friend of mine is 18 years old. Not from a Christian home. Good kid, but his life has been difficult with low paying job, no education, etc....

He has said to me several times, that he really wants to learn more about Christ, but he is having a hard time because it all "sounds so fake". I have asked him to join me at church, but he is too skeptical.

I have been praying for him. What is the best response to "I want to believe, but it all sounds so fake."?

I think much of the Gospel delves into living daily life in a humane and practical manner. The utilization of our conscience is necessary to motivate and guide us in this. While environmental factors like poverty, catastrophic nature etc. obviously affect us, I think the real challenge for our conscience is coming to grips with human conflict.

This is where the Gospel comes in and it is not wrong to realize we have enemies. Much of the muddled, current, social mindset tries to preempt common sense with false guilt. The true challenge we face is forgiving our enemies in humility ( this is not easy). This is where much of the Lord's preaching in the Sermon on the Mount concerns ( Matthew 5, Matthew 6, Matthew 7 ).

Our conscience needs God to complete its positive aspirations. Jesus Christ calls us to love God and neighbor ( Matthew 22:36-40 ), to treat others as we wish to be treated ( Matthew 7:1-12 ). The basic way to do this is with charity ( Matthew 6:1-4 ). Add the Lord's Prayer ( Matthew 6:5-13 )to this and the basic commands of Christian living ( Romans 13:8-10 ).
 
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Friend of mine is 18 years old. Not from a Christian home. Good kid, but his life has been difficult with low paying job, no education, etc....

He has said to me several times, that he really wants to learn more about Christ, but he is having a hard time because it all "sounds so fake". I have asked him to join me at church, but he is too skeptical.

I have been praying for him. What is the best response to "I want to believe, but it all sounds so fake."?
Tell him it is religion which he deems fake in his mind, however, God is not.
 
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Just pray for him and share Jesus love, give some words of God. Its Holy Spirit who opens people's hearts.

Why is the Holy Spirit so selective? Some people will go a whole lifetime asking the Spirit to reveal truths through the word and it will never happen. God simply rejects them. It's as though God is fickle and just really hates some people unconditionally...
 
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There is no real way to ruin it. He is without excuse that there is a God. Nature tells him that God exists, but his foolish heart has been darkened because of his sin and desire not to be with God. The Lord also will find another to witness to him if you are not the one to do it correctly; Or God knows they simply may not ever want God in their lives. Yes, we should do our best to be a good witness and let the love of Christ shine through us and to pray for him, or lay hands on him, or show him evidences for God's Word and or defend the faith, but ultimately it will be God working on their heart. Ultimately it is their decision.

Remember, it is written, we just plant seeds another waters and God gives the increase.

People have been convicted of their sin and repented just watching a false prosperity preacher on TV. If they are being convicted by God and their heart is open, God can use many things in life to get them to repent.


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So God only loves very perceptive, intelligent, and spiritually conditioned people and hates everyone else with an infinite passion? You have to know the true nature of the universe right off the bat or he will utterly reject you....wonderful. I'll be sure to tell 3 billion people that God hated them before time even began and he'll hate them until the end of time....

Very few people are totally certain about God so you just wrote off just about everyone who was ever cursed with life.
 
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Why is the Holy Spirit so selective? Some people will go a whole lifetime asking the Spirit to reveal truths through the word and it will never happen. God simply rejects them. It's as though God is fickle and just really hates some people unconditionally...
It is not God that rejects men, it is men that reject God. Everything is self inflicted.
 
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It is not God that rejects men, it is men that reject God. Everything is self inflected.

If someone is asking questions about Christ and sincerely wants to know him then they did not reject God.

If absolute certainty is required for salvation then pretty much nobody is getting into heaven!
 
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Why is the Holy Spirit so selective?

James 4:6 ...God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Psalm 53:2 God looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
3. Every one of them has turned aside; together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, not even one.…
 
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James 4:6 ...God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Psalm 53:2 God looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
3. Every one of them has turned aside; together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, not even one.…

So we're disgusting and we don't know how to stop? Now what? You just get rejected if there is even a single piece hidden deep that isn't entirely on board. It is a brutal state of affairs...much like life in general.
 
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Friend of mine is 18 years old. Not from a Christian home. Good kid, but his life has been difficult with low paying job, no education, etc....

He has said to me several times, that he really wants to learn more about Christ, but he is having a hard time because it all "sounds so fake". I have asked him to join me at church, but he is too skeptical.

I have been praying for him. What is the best response to "I want to believe, but it all sounds so fake."?
The world is faker, better to pick the best of all the fakes.
 
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So God only loves very perceptive, intelligent, and spiritually conditioned people and hates everyone else with an infinite passion? You have to know the true nature of the universe right off the bat or he will utterly reject you....wonderful. I'll be sure to tell 3 billion people that God hated them before time even began and he'll hate them until the end of time....

Very few people are totally certain about God so you just wrote off just about everyone who was ever cursed with life.

Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there that find it.
Granted, God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
For GOD has a way of changing a person's heart if they are seeking to change themselves.
 
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Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there that find it.
Granted, God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
For GOD has a way of changing a person's heart if they are seeking to change themselves.

Clearly this is a very rare phenomenon if you look around at society. This is why we harden our hearts and not care about people too much. Most are hopeless and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.
 
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Clearly this is a very rare phenomenon if you look around at society. This is why we harden our hearts and not care about people too much. Most are hopeless and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

We can't act that way. We have to always extend out hope and love to everyone. Jesus can change lives.
 
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We can't act that way. We have to always extend out hope and love to everyone. Jesus can change lives.

There is always the choice between acting selfish and being generous to those in need. But actually FEELING for the hopeless is extremely dangerous. I had a psychotic break in my 20s over this. It is not possible to feel love and contemplate the damnation of billions without going insane. People rarely change. The only time people change is when extreme hardship forces them to change everything they believed about life. Even then it's a toss up. Most of the time they just lash out with their pain and continue down the same path.

Even God must be distant from the damned.
 
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There is always the choice between acting selfish and being generous to those in need. But actually FEELING for the hopeless is extremely dangerous. I had a psychotic break in my 20s over this. It is not possible to feel love and contemplate the damnation of billions without going insane. People rarely change. The only time people change is when extreme hardship forces them to change everything they believed about life. Even then it's a toss up. Most of the time they just lash out with their pain and continue down the same path.

Even God must be distant from the damned.

Not at all. First, we do not know the ultimate destiny of every person's soul. A person can repent and accept Jesus on their death bed. Second, loving the loveless actually frees you from not hating them. Three, if they are damned, they are deserving of such judgment for their choice in rejecting Christ (GOD). Four, I do not believe in eternal torment, but I believe that the Lake of Fire is a place where the wicked will be temporally punished according to their sins and then they will be annihiated both body and soul (after justice is served). They will be erased from existence. Jesus says we are to fear the One who can destroy both body and soul in hell (i.e. Gehenna or the Lake of Fire) (Matthew 10:28).

As for your statement that GOD is distant from the wicked (or the damned):
Scripture says that He is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. Scriptures says that He knocks and desires to come in and sup with a person. I believe this to be that God knocks on the doors of people's hearts. GOD so loved the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son. If GOD was distant to the wicked, then He would not have died for their sins so as to offer them His free love gift. He died for us while we were yet sinners (Is what the Scriptures say).
 
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