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How does believing Jesus died from my sins sets me free?
Why does a man, Jesus had to die for me?
How does all this saving thing work (besides believing in the gospel)? How does a man can free me from my sins? And why is it that exists original sin? Was it invented? It could be.
What do you say?
 
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It is all in the Bible. How did YOU get free from sin?
Man what is your purpose? If you don't have an answer don't just say "It's in the Bible". That's plain stupid. If I would be satisfied with my knowledge of the Bible I wouldn't be asking here. Got it?
 
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How does believing Jesus died from my sins sets me free?

He Set's you free from the penalty of sin, and if you continue with him, the desire to sin, in that way, he sets you free...

Why does a man, Jesus had to die for me?

Only a covenant sealed by blood and death would appease and shut up and silence and end the court cases and voices of bad angels looking to stir up and make trouble almost always involving us...

His death and shed blood and his willing sacrifice, put and end to all that all those voices in heaven once and for all, and they were cast down to the earth at his death and out of heaven...

I'll stop there for now, if you wanna know more, ask...?

How does all this saving thing work (besides believing in the gospel)?

You go through a pivotal change from your old ways to new ones, as a believer in Christ... Ways that are maybe, not as sinful, (and in time, maybe not sinful at all)... You develop a personal relationship with him (Jesus)... You commit to following him and putting your faith and trust in him...

How does a man can free me from my sins?

Explained already...

And why is it that exists original sin? Was it invented? It could be.
What do you say?

I don't know about the concept of original sin, perhaps someone else will or can answer that for you...?

God Bless!
 
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How does believing Jesus died from my sins sets me free?

Maybe you have not understood fully what the Bible tells, because according to it, it is the truth that will make free:

"If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32
 
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And why is it that exists original sin? Was it invented? It could be.
What do you say?

the concept of the orginial sin is simply probably is just from the darkness that makes up the entire universe. perhaps that's why God had to say let there be light? and divide the light from the darkness because righteousness has nothing to do with unrighteousness. sin will be here until the darkness is completely vanished or thrown into the lake of fire. that's why Jesus talks about the harvest angel at the time of his return.

Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
 
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Maybe you have not understood fully what the Bible tells, because according to it, it is the truth that will make free:

"If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32
You've told him what it does, but not how to do it, or make it accomplish what it says/said, which was his question... It being the Word (and the Spirit)...

I'd start by reading the Word of God... for he told you what the Word (and the Spirit) does but not how to do it, and the answer is: start reading, and see what happens, would be my suggestion...

God Bless!
 
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Man what is your purpose? If you don't have an answer don't just say "It's in the Bible". That's plain stupid. If I would be satisfied with my knowledge of the Bible I wouldn't be asking here. Got it?
When you were born again you were instantly inhabited by the Holy Spirit. HE teaches us in all things, including the interpretation and application of the Bible. When we skip His presence we are left to struggle with our own "points of view." Therefore, we look to the Bible and prayer within His embrace.
 
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The most complete answer in the Bible is given in Romans 6. It's based on an idea that doesn't come so easily to Americans. We aren't just isolated individuals. We can bear each others' burdens, and we can be united to Christ. Paul says that we are united to Christ, that through that union we die with him to sin and are raised to new life. So we are free to the extent that we're united with Christ in faith, and experience freedom through him.
 
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When you were born again you were instantly inhabited by the Holy Spirit. HE teaches us in all things, including the interpretation and application of the Bible. When we skip His presence we are left to struggle with our own "points of view." Therefore, we look to the Bible and prayer within His embrace.
I would just like to add, "And with his (God's) help..."

God Bless!
 
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How does believing Jesus died from my sins sets me free?
Why does a man, Jesus had to die for me?
How does all this saving thing work (besides believing in the gospel)? How does a man can free me from my sins? And why is it that exists original sin? Was it invented? It could be.
What do you say?
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You have Non-Denom as your religious affiliation, does that mean your not saved, I ask because your questions are so basic, they sound as though you have never been saved.

Just trying to find out what you do believe, then there is an understanding as to what you know about the things of God.
 
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You have Non-Denom as your religious affiliation, does that mean your not saved, I ask because your questions are so basic, they sound as though you have never been saved.

Just trying to find out what you do believe, then there is an understanding as to what you know about the things of God.
I believe I am not saved. I have read the Bible once and the New Testament several times sparsely.
Probably I don't believe entirely on the Gospel because I don't understand it's meaning, the death of Jesus for me. I try to meditate and understand why did he had to die for me and in what way does that save me, but I don't seem to get anywhere.
 
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You've told him what it does, but not how to do it, or make it accomplish what it says/said, which was his question... It being the Word (and the Spirit)...

I'd start by reading the Word of God... for he told you what the Word (and the Spirit) does but not how to do it, and the answer is: start reading, and see what happens, would be my suggestion...

God Bless!


I think that is pretty much what the scripture says, it goes like this:

1) Remain in what Jesus told (keep in mind what he said)

2) It will lead you to know the truth

3) When you know the truth, it will free you.



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How does believing Jesus died from my sins sets me free?
Why does a man, Jesus had to die for me?
How does all this saving thing work (besides believing in the gospel)? How does a man can free me from my sins? And why is it that exists original sin? Was it invented? It could be.
What do you say?

Jesus is not just a man. That is the difference.
Jesus is the second person of the Trinity. He is God the Son.
As God he was able to live as a man on earth, without ever sinning and because he was sinless he could take the punishment we deseve for our sins.

Oringinal sin is a bias we have inherited from Adam.

How do you see yourself? as a 'good' person? As a sinner! check out the 10 commandments and what Jesus said about lust and hate.
He basicly said that lustful thoughts about a person equaled breaking the 10 commandments. So are you a 'sinner'?

Salvation involves admitting that you are a sinner, asking God for forgiveness and accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

If you are serious about looking into Christianity, may I suggest checking out the christianityexplored web site for a church running this course. Then you can discuss with others any quirries etc with others and without making any commitment to attend church.
 
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Jesus is not just a man. That is the difference.
Jesus is the second person of the Trinity. He is God the Son.
As God he was able to live as a man on earth, without ever sinning and because he was sinless he could take the punishment we deseve for our sins.

Oringinal sin is a bias we have inherited from Adam.

How do you see yourself? as a 'good' person? As a sinner! check out the 10 commandments and what Jesus said about lust and hate.
He basicly said that lustful thoughts about a person equaled breaking the 10 commandments. So are you a 'sinner'?

Salvation involves admitting that you are a sinner, asking God for forgiveness and accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
And "after that" then what...?
 
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I believe I am not saved. I have read the Bible once and the New Testament several times sparsely.
Probably I don't believe entirely on the Gospel because I don't understand it's meaning, the death of Jesus for me. I try to meditate and understand why did he had to die for me and in what way does that save me, but I don't seem to get anywhere.

I would encourage you to attend a church, if you don't already. And I would recommend the book Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis as a simple guide to Christian theology.
 
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And "after that" then what...?
After what?

Or do you mean what happens after you repent etc.

it helps if you say what you mean.

After becoming a Christian, then one starts to learn what it means to be a Christian.
It helps if one finds and attends a church where they preach through the bible, not one where all they do is appeal to the gospel.
Ask questions of the preacher. What did he mean by .......
How does that bible verse apply to my situation.

But the bible says the opposite to what you said here

etc rtc etc

Try the christianityexplored web site.
 
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After what?

Or do you mean what happens after you repent etc.

it helps if you say what you mean.

After becoming a Christian, then one starts to learn what it means to be a Christian.
It helps if one finds and attends a church where they preach through the bible, not one where all they do is appeal to the gospel.
Ask questions of the preacher. What did he mean by .......
How does that bible verse apply to my situation.

But the bible says the opposite to what you said here

etc rtc etc

Try the christianityexplored web site.
You mean Exploring Christianity, I go there sometimes, not challenging enough... Well, lets see, since you know so much, would you like to contribute to this about the law and grace, ect, ect...

What is God's judgment...? Is it different for the believer and the non-believer...?

Christians are some of the worse "sinners" I know BTW... Especially in the things that are important...

How do you define "repent", you still sin, so don't you mean continually in your life repenting of what you feel you can, and being repentant of what just don't think you can or feel you cannot (yet) and us all being honest about sin with God, especially Christians, would be a good start, and talking with him (God) (Or the Lord) about it, not making excuses, but giving thanks and/for forgiveness and praise and praising him and thanking him, and lifting him up... Fall on your knees/face and worship with joy at his amazing grace...

I always apologize also, but try not to make excuses, I do like to say, "not yet" thinking that I will be able to get that sin whipped sometime, with the Lord's help, and he has told me that if I continue walking with him and in him, that he'd help me get the sin issue whipped one day... But, "not yet", I'm a work in progress...

God Bless!
 
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I believe I am not saved. I have read the Bible once and the New Testament several times sparsely.
Probably I don't believe entirely on the Gospel because I don't understand it's meaning, the death of Jesus for me. I try to meditate and understand why did he had to die for me and in what way does that save me, but I don't seem to get anywhere.
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Hi Guerrier
I am sorry for the delay in answering you, I have just gone through a Hurricane, and our electric was out.

1) Do you understand there is sin in your life?
2) Do you understand there is a penalty for sin, and that penalty is death?
 
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