Did God create dragons?

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Right, dinosaurs were real but did God create them?

"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, of all things seen and unseen." - From the Nicene Creed

God made all things through His Word, John 1:3.

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Some scientist (Christians) believe Noah put dino on the ark!

Do these "scientists" have valid degrees in relevant fields and their research in credible peer reviewed science journals?

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Do these "scientists" have valid degrees in relevant fields and their research in credible peer reviewed science journals?

-CryptoLutheran

I can answer for him and say no. Just to save you time Crypto
 
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A crocodile with more than one head that God breaks? Must of been a mutation of sorts.

Psalm 74:14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

God is going to punish crocodiles "in that day."...wonder what they did wrong...

Isaiah 27:1 "In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea."

We are now "in that day." The Leviathan is ISIL.

There's nothing like a crocodile that brings fear upon the mighty...

"Job 41:33 " Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear."

Job 41:25a When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid:...

Crocodiles are in need of purification...

Job 41:25b... by reason of breakings they purify themselves.

Crocodiles are king over children of pride.

Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

Good thing we've been warned about crocodiles...

ISIS believes they are the Leviathan that has been awakened.

Job 3:8 May those curse it who curse the day, Those who are ready to arouse Leviathan.

Better interpreted...

Let them express it that curse the day who are ready to awaken the Leviathan.

How do they curse the day??? Like this...

ISIS-childrens-training-camp.jpg


You can learn a lot from a crocodile!
I could not think of an animal (leviathan) with two heads. An octopus has eight arms. A millipede has many legs. I could not find evidence for fire breathing dragons. Stories were told that were not entirely true.
 
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Some scientist (Christians) believe Noah put dino on the ark![/QUOT
Interesting! I don't understand though why dinosaurs are not mentioned in the bible. We have fossils of them, son we know they existed.
 
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I believe I asked for actual evidence. Bad biblical study and heterodox reasonings isn't evidence.

You judged it before watching the whole thing. There are various books on the topic. But again, you can pre-judge them and just say it is not true before even looking at them. The Bible in Job 41 is all the evidence you should need, but for some odd reason you don't believe it. Which is to be expected. People do not believe in all sorts of things the Bible says these days.
 
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Right, dinosaurs were real but did God create them?

Yes, God created them.

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him." (Colossians 1:16).
 
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And the review from the Washington Post on said book:

Book Review: 'The Natural History of Unicorns' by Chris Lavers

Here's the relevant info on the book

Don't confuse this book with cryptozoology, with its snapshots of the Loch Ness Monster (or is that driftwood?) and plaster casts of Bigfoot's tracks (unless that's a seam showing). Lavers is a scientist and a scholar. He isn't trying to prove the existence of an elusive beast. He understands that myths, like hardy plants, grow from their native environment, then get carried abroad and cross-fertilize with indigenous stories elsewhere, producing hybrids whose lineage requires careful untangling.


Lavers wants to know what inspired the many different versions of the unicorn that cavort through such diverse sources as Pliny's natural history encyclopedia, the medieval pharmacopoeia and Christian fables of sacred virginity. His quest takes him from ancient natural scientists such as Ctesius and Aristotle to the Islamic scholars who preserved those worthies' learning through the Dark Ages. Then he takes us along on exciting 19th- and 20th-century expeditions into jungle and veldt. Real animals who contributed to the unicorn or its potent horn include the yak, narwhal, oryx, rhinoceros, okapi and the now extinct auroch.

The Bible talks about unicorns in Job 39 as a real creature. It appears to be like some kind of oxen maybe. But it is a real creature and no doubt has one horn because that is what the word "unicorn" means. One horned. End of story. The Bible says it. That's it. You either believe the Bible or you don't believe it.
 
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Which is to be expected. People do not believe in all sorts of things the Bible says these days. For we are living in the last days.
Jason, I don't have any problem with believing God when He speaks to Job, who obviously knew what creature God was talking about, about a fire breathing creature.

But when expecting others to believe what you believe the Bible clearly says, you might take note about when the Bible says the last days were or at least began. To me this is more important than if fire breathing dragons ever existed.

This is Peter speaking on the first Pentecost about the giving of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:16 `But this is that which hath been spoken through the prophet Joel:
Act 2:17 And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;......
 
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Right, dinosaurs were real but did God create them?

All evidence indicates that dinosaurs were the product of the evolution that gave rise to the rest of life on this planet.
 
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I'm sure they do. Take a look for yourself...

"At first, everything was "very good" (v. 31), but soon sin entered, resulting in the curse (Genesis 3) and, eventually, Noah's Flood (Genesis 6-9). Noah was told to take on board the Ark two of each kind of created animal "in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land" (7:22), including, no doubt, dinosaurs."

Did Dinosaurs Survive the Flood? | The Institute for Creation Research

John D. Morris has a Ph.D in geological engineering from the University of Oklahoma, and has authored no(?) peer reviewed articles in credible scientific journals.

Perhaps you could explain what Morris' geological engineering doctorate can contribute to these questions, and share some of his peer reviewed articles--as I was unable to find any peer reviewed articles authored by Morris when doing a Google search, but that isn't conclusive which is why I'm asking you to provide them.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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It said in Revelations that a great red dragon, otherwise known as Satan will wait for the baby to come out of the woman, to devour it. So we know that God created all living things, but I'm not sure if dragons, dinasours, insects, flies are part of His creation.
Dragon is the old word for dinosaur. In China, they prize dragon bone. It's fossilized dinosaur bone. So yes, God made dragons.
 
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The Bible talks about unicorns in Job 39 as a real creature. It appears to be like some kind of oxen maybe. But it is a real creature and no doubt has one horn because that is what the word "unicorn" means. One horned. End of story. The Bible says it. That's it. You either believe the Bible or you don't believe it.

The entirety of Job in the NRSV:

Job 39


1 Do you know when the mountain goats give birth?
Do you observe the calving of the deer?
2 Can you number the months that they fulfil,
and do you know the time when they give birth,
3 when they crouch to give birth to their offspring,
and are delivered of their young?
4 Their young ones become strong, they grow up in the open;
they go forth, and do not return to them.


5 ‘Who has let the wild ass go free?
Who has loosed the bonds of the swift ass,
6 to which I have given the steppe for its home,
the salt land for its dwelling-place?
7 It scorns the tumult of the city;
it does not hear the shouts of the driver.
8 It ranges the mountains as its pasture,
and it searches after every green thing.


9 ‘Is the wild ox willing to serve you?
Will it spend the night at your crib?
10 Can you tie it in the furrow with ropes,
or will it harrow the valleys after you?
11 Will you depend on it because its strength is great,
and will you hand over your labour to it?
12 Do you have faith in it that it will return,
and bring your grain to your threshing-floor?*


13 ‘The ostrich’s wings flap wildly,
though its pinions lack plumage.*
14 For it leaves its eggs to the earth,
and lets them be warmed on the ground,
15 forgetting that a foot may crush them,
and that a wild animal may trample them.
16 It deals cruelly with its young, as if they were not its own;
though its labour should be in vain, yet it has no fear;
17 because God has made it forget wisdom,
and given it no share in understanding.
18 When it spreads its plumes aloft,*
it laughs at the horse and its rider.


19 ‘Do you give the horse its might?
Do you clothe its neck with mane?
20 Do you make it leap like the locust?
Its majestic snorting is terrible.
21 It paws* violently, exults mightily;
it goes out to meet the weapons.
22 It laughs at fear, and is not dismayed;
it does not turn back from the sword.
23 Upon it rattle the quiver,
the flashing spear, and the javelin.
24 With fierceness and rage it swallows the ground;
it cannot stand still at the sound of the trumpet.
25 When the trumpet sounds, it says “Aha!”
From a distance it smells the battle,
the thunder of the captains, and the shouting.


26 ‘Is it by your wisdom that the hawk soars,
and spreads its wings towards the south?
27 Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up
and makes its nest on high?
28 It lives on the rock and makes its home
in the fastness of the rocky crag.
29 From there it spies the prey;
its eyes see it from far away.
30 Its young ones suck up blood;
and where the slain are, there it is.’

No mention of unicorns there so therefore I don't see what you're trying to get at with your lack of actual scientific evidence and this bible waving to prove it and then trying to jump to conclusions, like all heterodoxers, that cause those of us that don't stand on shoddy reasoning have a lack of faith. Sorry but come up with a new tactic, this one doesn't work.
 
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Key word...lizard, not dragon. Lizard. And scientifically, they are correct. Dinosaurs belonged to the Reptile group as do lizards. So....

Sooo...
Did you read what I was responding to?

The terms dragon and dinosaur were used interchangeably
for many years. The only difference is that dragons are recent
history. Dinosaurs were made into myth by evolution and long
periods of time.
 
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