Suicide: A sin into hell

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There are 7 suicides in the Bible and All were spiritual failures. It is the ultimate act of UNBELIEF and disowning God and leads to loss of salvation as these passages clearly warn us about.

Matthew 10:33 NIV
[33] But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

Matthew 24:13 NIV
[13] but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

Luke 8:13 NIV
[13] Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.

Luke 14:29-30 NIV
[29] For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, [30] saying, 'This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.'

Romans 11:20-22 NIV
[20] Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. [21] For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. [22] Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 NIV
[16] Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? [17] If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 15:2 NIV
[2] By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

Hebrews 10:37-39 NIV
[37] For in just a very little while, "He who is coming will come and will not delay. [38] But my righteous one will live by faith. And if he shrinks back, I will not be pleased with him." [39] But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved.

Hebrews 3:14-15,18-19 NIV
[14] We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. [15] As has just been said: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion." [18] And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed ? [19] So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.

Hebrews 3:6 NIV
[6] But Christ is faithful as a son over God's house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast.

1 Timothy 1:19 NIV
[19] holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.

2 Timothy 4:7-8 NIV
[7] I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. [8] Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day---and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

2 Timothy 2:5 NIV
[5] Similarly, if anyone competes as an athlete, he does not receive the victor's crown unless he competes according to the rules.

1 John 2:24-25 NIV
[24] See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. [25] And this is what he promised us---even eternal life.

Revelation 2:11 NIV
[11] He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.

Revelation 2:10 NIV
[10] Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.

Revelation 21:8 NIV
[8] But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars---their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
 

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There are 7 suicides in the Bible and All were spiritual failures. It is the ultimate act of UNBELIEF and disowning God and leads to loss of salvation as these passages clearly warn us about.

I don't see suicide mentioned in that list. Which verse says it's the ultimate act of unbelief?

So, if I die with a different unrepented sin against me, I'm ok?
 
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I don't see suicide mentioned in that list. Which verse says it's the ultimate act of unbelief?

So, if I die with a different unrepented sin against me, I'm ok?

Dying with any sin will put someone into Hell. We have to ask the Holy Spirit to check our garments daily to ensure we don't have any spots or wrinkles. (James 1:27, Ephesians 5:27, Revelation 21:27)

If we're on our deathbed we have a last chance to repent of all iniquity and wipe all known and unknown sins before dying to have a chance of entering Heaven as there's more than we realize. It's a very narrow entry way to come back home to Heaven.
 
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Dying with any sin will put someone into Hell. We have to ask the Holy Spirit to check our garments daily to ensure we don't have any spots or wrinkles. (James 1:27, Ephesians 5:27, Revelation 21:27)

If we're on our deathbed we have a last chance to repent of all iniquity and wipe all known and unknown sins before dying to have a chance of entering Heaven as there's more than we realize. It's a very narrow entry way to come back home to Heaven.

Then we are all doomed.
 
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Then we are all doomed.
Not really. You have to have a relationship with God. Following Him gives us an expected end. (Jeremiah 29:11) It's constant communion between God, the Holy Spirit and Christ. By hearing His voice, talking to Him daily, asking what you're missing in life. Example Questions: Are there any assignments I'm missing? Where am I supposed to be? What church do I attend that's on your registry? Am I in my promise land? Did I miss my calling? Are there any spots or wrinkles on my garments? Who are my divine helpers? Do I have any underlying trauma or secret sins I need to repent of? Do I have any ancestral curses or generational curses I need to break? Are there any holes in my foundation? Does my hedge of protection have any cracks or holes allowing the enemy in? What does the devil have on me keeping me from being closer to You? Do I have anything on the devil's trading floor? Are there any friends I need to let go? Am I married to the wrong person? Am I supposed to be married? Are there any ungodly characteristics I have that are not in alignment with You that need changing? Is there anything blocking my blessings? Lots of inquiry prayers will get you answers to where you need to be with God, these are just a few.
 
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It's true, you don't have a chance to repent after committing suicide. It's self-murder same synonymous connotation as suicide. (Exodus 20:13)

1 John 3 links hatred to murder. Ephesians 5:29 tells us no one has yet hated their own flesh. So, I would submit that self-murder isn't a possible concept.

It doesn't even make sense anyway. If someone hates their circumstances and feelings so much, if they also hated themselves, they wouldn't take their lives, but do everything to remain, just to spite themselves. They wouldn't go to extreme measures to remove themselves as a potential act of relief. It's actually closer to an expression of ultimate self-love.
 
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Not really. You have to have a relationship with God. Following Him gives us an expected end. (Jeremiah 29:11) It's constant communion between God, the Holy Spirit and Christ. By hearing His voice, talking to Him daily, asking what you're missing in life. Example Questions: Are there any assignments I'm missing? Where am I supposed to be? What church do I attend that's on your registry? Am I in my promise land? Did I miss my calling? Are there any spots or wrinkles on my garments? Who are my divine helpers? Do I have any underlying trauma or secret sins I need to repent of? Do I have any ancestral curses or generational curses I need to break? Are there any holes in my foundation? Does my hedge of protection have any cracks or holes allowing the enemy in? What does the devil have on me keeping me from being closer to You? Do I have anything on the devil's trading floor? Are there any friends I need to let go? Am I married to the wrong person? Am I supposed to be married? Are there any ungodly characteristics I have that are not in alignment with You that need changing? Is there anything blocking my blessings? Lots of inquiry prayers will get you answers to where you need to be with God, these are just a few.

Daily doesn't do you any good if one sin will send you to hell. That's way too long.
 
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Daily doesn't do you any good if one sin will send you to hell. That's way too long.

Not really, the closer you get to God He will reveal to you when you ask. It's like having your dad there the whole time to lead and guide you answering your questions. Trust and faith counts - never give up.

It doesn't even make sense anyway. If someone hates their circumstances and feelings so much, if they also hated themselves, they wouldn't take their lives, but do everything to remain, just to spite themselves. They wouldn't go to extreme measures to remove themselves as a potential act of relief. It's actually closer to an expression of ultimate self-love.

That is a very strange response so I'm unsure how to answer that sorry.

But I can tell you suicide is a spiritual attack on a person whether if they are believers or not. This happens when they are about to have a breakthrough in whatever bondage they're in and persevere.

But if they give into the temptation of the evil spirit that's throwing those thoughts (fiery darts, Ephesians 6:16) into their head, they will begin to bombard a believer to the point of suicide and they require intervention and deliverance from God to help overcome it.
 
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Not really. You have to have a relationship with God. Following Him gives us an expected end. (Jeremiah 29:11) It's constant communion between God, the Holy Spirit and Christ. By hearing His voice, talking to Him daily, asking what you're missing in life. Example Questions: Are there any assignments I'm missing? Where am I supposed to be? What church do I attend that's on your registry? Am I in my promise land? Did I miss my calling? Are there any spots or wrinkles on my garments? Who are my divine helpers? Do I have any underlying trauma or secret sins I need to repent of? Do I have any ancestral curses or generational curses I need to break? Are there any holes in my foundation? Does my hedge of protection have any cracks or holes allowing the enemy in? What does the devil have on me keeping me from being closer to You? Do I have anything on the devil's trading floor? Are there any friends I need to let go? Am I married to the wrong person? Am I supposed to be married? Are there any ungodly characteristics I have that are not in alignment with You that need changing? Is there anything blocking my blessings? Lots of inquiry prayers will get you answers to where you need to be with God, these are just a few.
That's not what the Bible says. The Bible says salvation is a gift. It's not of yourselves. Everything in your post points to what we have to do when in fact salvation is not of ourselves.

Ephesians 2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 
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I’ve heard it said that the modern churches accept suicide is the result of mental illness, and teach that the ill person isn’t knowingly rejecting God, but acting out of their illness and pain. It follows that our God, who is love and is merciful, would welcome that suffering person into His Kingdom and sooth away their pain.
Perhaps if a person is so ill, so overwhelmed and in so much pain, that they can’t go on, all they can do is go home to God early?
 
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There are 7 suicides in the Bible and All were spiritual failures. It is the ultimate act of UNBELIEF and disowning God and leads to loss of salvation

People choose to end their lives because of mental illness, terrible circumstances which may not have been their fault, and often a genuine belief that other people would be better off without them/their lives would be better.
To tell someone like this that ending their own lives would lead to condemnation by God, would be cruel, untrue and do nothing to witness to the God who is love.

I don't believe that Judas taking his own life was the mark of a spiritual failure - he had seen, and even performed, miracles and been present when Peter declared Jesus to be the Messiah. I've always seen his death as an act of despair and remorse. He had betrayed Jesus - possibly hoping that by doing so he would force Jesus' hand and get him to declare war on the Romans. Judas' betrayal lead to the crucifixion - though that was God's plan and not a human tragedy - and Judas threw the money back at the Pharisees and took his own life. His only "crime" was that he did not expect the resurrection; though none of them did. Or possibly, he did expect the resurrection and did not want to face Jesus again after what he had done.
It's for God to judge if Judas was a "spiritual failure", not any of us.
 
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If someone hates their circumstances and feelings so much, if they also hated themselves, they wouldn't take their lives,

Wouldn't they?
If they don't believe they deserve to live and have a life, taking that life would be the only option.
 
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It's true, you don't have a chance to repent after committing suicide.

How do you know what goes through someone's mind in the few minutes before their death?
If someone were to take an overdose of paracetamol, wake up and think, "that didn't work, maybe I'm supposed to live", changed their mind and repented, but died a fortnight later because they hadn't got treatment for the paracetamol overdose - what then? Their death could well be recorded as suicide, even though it hadn't been instant; and they repented in the meantime?
 
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This is an old thread. But it's worth repeating that the suicide victim is a VICTIM not a perpetrator. We wouldn't damn a murder victim because they were murdered. So why would we damn a suicide victim?

Treating suicide like a "go to hell immediately" card is diabolical, it's hellish.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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So yeah, all those folks with clinical depression, or who suffer ghastly physical afflictions, who think the only way out of the horror is to take their own lives, get eternal torture added to everything else. So much for the Lord whose mercy endures forever. That should have said "malice" rather than "mercy", right? Probably a typo.
 
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I tend to think that the eternal destiny of those who take their own lives is the same as for everyone else. If they are "in Christ", i.e. they have accepted Jesus as their Saviour and have been born again, then Jesus' blood covers any sin involved in the suicide and they are in Heaven. If they have rejected Jesus' death then, as with all who do so, they will have gone to hell and that is so sad.

I'm not 100% sure though, so if anyone is contemplating suicide please don't do it. Seek help and pray. I know that God can bring you through and don't think that because you are severely distressed now it will always be that way. God is love.
 
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Some don't have 'death beds', they're lives end abruptly. For example, my father was killed in a car crash.

Dying with any sin will put someone into Hell. We have to ask the Holy Spirit to check our garments daily to ensure we don't have any spots or wrinkles. (James 1:27, Ephesians 5:27, Revelation 21:27)

If we're on our deathbed we have a last chance to repent of all iniquity and wipe all known and unknown sins before dying to have a chance of entering Heaven as there's more than we realize. It's a very narrow entry way to come back home to Heaven.
 
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