Is it okay to be a Christian and support same sex marriage?

[devin553344]

Let me start off by apologizing if I'm putting this in the wrong part of the forum. This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I'm hoping to get some opinions. I support not only same sex marriage, but also the LGBT community in general. Can I still be a Christian despite this? I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here. I feel guilty, but I can't change how I feel. Thanks for reading.

LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual and tri-sexual. Technically, Bi-Tri-sexual, that term applies to whoredoms, which are despised in the bible and if spoken of that way are despised by the prophets of God. The bible also speaks out against men who choose other men.

I wouldn't support LGBT or the trends of the people, if they are against the teachings of the bible and the prophets. The LGBT tell you there's nothing wrong with being LGBT, but then so do most marijuana supporters, and I don't believe in drugs either other than a beer or wine now and again But then beer wears off quickly where other drugs do not. Maybe LGBT is one of those, "can't tell it's wrong until you try it, like drugs, then it's too late maybe, or maybe not, they say sex is addictive like drugs.

So what I'm saying I think, is that telling people there's nothing wrong with being LGBT is incorrect and supporters go against the bible too? It would appear to me that it does.

I will stand with the Prophets on the issue.

And marriage is technically a Christian ordinance of choosing one mate and sticking with them, and if not christian then perhaps having many wives as other religions practice. Early Bible does include many wives, but that practice was abolished morally, even in LDS teachings. So then the bi and tri sexual was morally surpassed many years ago, and it's trending to return. It used to be illegal in the US, since it was found to be immoral and criminal.

You do see polygamy shows on TV, like the media is trying to resurrect it, since it's in the same spirit as LGBT, but that doesn't make it morally correct does it?

 

[stevenfrancis]

Supportive? No. Tolerant of the practice by non-Christian brothers and sisters, of course. To afflicted Christians we must speak the truth in love. Try to get our friends to see reason. If they won't listen to us, we bring 2 or 3 other Christian brothers and sisters to explain the truth with love. If they still won't listen we take them to the Church, (if they'll go), and the Church will explain it with care and love. If they won't listen to the Church, they ave excommunicated themselves from communion with the Lord (Mt. 18), and must truly repent in their heart with prayer and meditation. We should also continue to pray for them with fasting and alms giving as well.

 

[lastofall]

If you support such, then you are not yet a Christian, because you do not know what sin is.

 

[seeking.IAM]

All laws legislate morality. No laws exist that don't.

Partially true. It's a stretch to think the difference between driving 65 and 66 mph on the highway is based upon moral code. Nonetheless, I concede your point that there are laws based upon morals. However, I submit there is a difference between laws that protect the rights or safety of others and laws that don't. I agree with .gov regulating personal behavior that violates the rights of a second person. I disagree that it is the role of .gov to regulate personal behavior that doesn't impinge on the rights or safety of others. I don't need Big Brother telling me what is and isn't personal moral behavior. For that, I have the Bible, Holy Tradition, my church, my priest, my conscience, and my ancestors' voices ringing in my head.

 

[-V-]

I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here.

First, keep in mind that you can still treat people with love and kindness while NOT supporting their sin.

Now, you know it's against the Bible. So try replacing it in your question with something else that is against the Bible that you aren't conflicted about.

"I know raping is against the Bible, but I can't help feeling I should support rape and rapists," for example.

Does that sound like a really good idea, or a really bad idea?

 

[toLiJC]

Let me start off by apologizing if I'm putting this in the wrong part of the forum. This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I'm hoping to get some opinions. I support not only same sex marriage, but also the LGBT community in general. Can I still be a Christian despite this? I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here. I feel guilty, but I can't change how I feel. Thanks for reading.

supporting homosexuality means supporting a mental deviation/disorder; yes, it is a mental deviation/disorder just as schizophrenia, autism, bulimia, etc. are mental deviations/disorders, and we have to heal people of every disorder/disease, not to make them be affected/ill with any of them

Blessings

 

[Dave G.]

The acceptance and even embracing of this stuff within churches is just part of proof and showing how "the church" is deceived in these times. Jesus said in the end times they will not endure sound doctrine and that they will lust one another of like kinds ( men with men, women with women). Much like in the account of the the church of Laodecia where Jesus wanted to spit it out of his mouth and had nothing good to say about it, These churches are surely in trouble with Him. You can not find anything biblical supporting the cause, need or acceptance of these activities, period. It's just not in scripture, though it is in the heart of modern man. In fact we are to repent. Again, period. But then, if to follow the bible in these decayed times basically churches will be empty. So they bow to the lust of the flesh and alter their doctrines to accept it.

We are coming to a time where true Christianity is going to be in small pockets of real believers. In fact I believe we are already there.

 

[pshun2404]

Let me start off by apologizing if I'm putting this in the wrong part of the forum. This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I'm hoping to get some opinions. I support not only same sex marriage, but also the LGBT community in general. Can I still be a Christian despite this? I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here. I feel guilty, but I can't change how I feel. Thanks for reading.

Two things....first off the only sin that cannot be forgiven is blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. Right wing political alleged Christianity rallies politically and in public protest but does Jesus call us to do such things as yell, swear, call names, hold signs that call them evil and satanic and so on? We live in a country where if you disagree with something you contact and vote for representatives and we let THEM decide. It is not a perfect system but it is the best system.

So though these lifestyles may disagree with a Biblical sense of morality under the Law so does pre-marital sex, inappropriate content, drunkedness, and a number of other sins that alleged "normal" Christians either do or have done regularly for years (centuries really).

Secondly, supporting their right to exist in social safety and peace is not the same as supporting their lifestyle, it is not the same thing. I do not believe in Islam or Hinduism but I will defend their right to practice and express their views (this way I assure the practice and expression of ours).

In addition, the Bible does call Sodomy sin (whether hetero or homo) as well as cross dressing and transgender operations but it does not condemn one's orientation (for which their are many reasons). God hates no sinner...Jesus died for all of us...accepting what He did for us and placng our trust in Him is defeated by the current political atmosphere towards these people.

I was attending a Nazarene church for a while...one distraught person was fighting drug addiction, a number would get drunk on occasion, a few couples cohabitated, most had had pre-marital sex and many were hypocritically judgmental of others....

Just think on these things...

 

[Monk Brendan]

Being a male, 'sexuality' is the art of seeking the very righteousness of God in the act of pleasing and pleasuring her. That is not a selfless act and is therefore, NOT lust!

Oh come now. Are you really so naive that you think that sex is the only reason why God created us with two genders? I've lived on this earth for 66 years, and being a male is so much more than that. Did you know that our first job is to love our spouse so much that we can love them into heaven?

You sound more like the King of Siam in The King and I, when he talks about men and women:

"A girl must be like a blossom
With honey for just one man.
A man must be like honey bee
And gather all he can.
To fly from blossom to blossom
A honey bee must be free,
But blossom must not ever fly
From bee to bee to bee."
*Music by Rodgers, Richard | Book by Oscar Hammerstein II | Lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein II | Based on Anna and the King by Margaret Landon Copyright © Rodgers & Hammerstein Organization. All Rights Reserved.

Women were made for far more than sex and domestics and cooking. It bothers the bleep out of me when men look at women that way.

ALL of the people in God's creation are called to love Him! It is a shame that there are many that don't, but that is not the issue here.

According to the law of the United States of America, same-sex couples have the CIVIL RIGHT to be married. As a civil right, I agree with that, that is fair, and equitable, and part of God's Word. “Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD.” (Prov 20:10) Which abomination are you supposed to abominate more, homosexuality or an unfair and unjust way of treating people? If you say the first, there are many Christians who were, and are gay. If you say the second, then you are allowing for slavery, kiddie inappropriate content, sex trafficking, and on and on.

 

[Joe 73]

Let me start off by apologizing if I'm putting this in the wrong part of the forum. This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I'm hoping to get some opinions. I support not only same sex marriage, but also the LGBT community in general. Can I still be a Christian despite this? I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here. I feel guilty, but I can't change how I feel. Thanks for reading.

You should follow your conscience, but it sounds like your conscience is confused.

You are confused about what appropriate sexual relations are. Ask questions, find out more. decide what you agree with. If you agree that the two defining purposes of sex are creating new life and pleasure for the sake of bonding, and that the design of the bodies (opposite parts connecting into one to fufill those purposes) should be respected. Then homosexual activity is wrong, because it is not respecting the design of our sexual organs, It is subverting the possibility for creating life, and making unatural bodily connection.

If you believe that Jesus did teach against homosexuality, and he is God. then you can be assured it is wrong.

As for me. I have been "gay" since I was 14 for a few years. I firmly believe homosexuality is not my nature, and starting not quite a year ago, I have found healing outside of sex, and my desire for homosexual activity is ever decreasing. My old desires are fading away to reveal deeper desires for friendship and love. I might actually fall in love and get married with a woman some day.

Get to the roots of sexual morality. Find out what you believe about sex and matrimony, and then you will know if you can in good conscience support same sex marriage.

Joe

 

[SilverBear]

I think you may be voicing what a number of Christians your age may be feeling on this issue. The answer to your specific question is yes, you can be a Christian and support those things. But the real question is should you. And the answer to that question would be no, you should not. It is a sin that our Lord despises because it is a demonic perversion of the what He intended sex to reflect. And it is leading countless souls to Hell for eternity, whether they "believe" this or not.

But welcome to CF, and yes, you posted this in the right place.

And Christians wonder why so many gays and lesbians want nothing to do with the Christian religion.

 

[devin553344]

supporting homosexuality means supporting a mental deviation/disorder; yes, it is a mental deviation/disorder just as schizophrenia, autism, bulimia, etc. are mental deviations/disorders, and we have to heal people of every disorder/disease, not to make them be affected/ill with any of them

Blessings

I would have to agree. I quoted the bible earlier on the issue. And I'm schizophrenic so I must say this also. In this modern world we seek to sciences and truth. The old world knew little of biology. Biology supports male with female. If there is something that should be supported with homosexuality then it should be that they have a disorder and should be treated humanly. Trying to change them might be impossible for them, or it might be a chosen practice, who's to say. We should of course discourage choosing homosexuality if you have the choice to make.

 

[SilverBear]

But, it's not THEM you're supporting. It's the spiritual wickedness that is living in and amongst them that you're supporting. So no, you cannot support both the Father, and gay marriage. Someone who is homosexual, isn't born that way.

Yeah they are just like you were born hetersexual.

People sympathize with the spiritual oppression of homosexuality today based on the idea that people are born that way, and that they're victims to circumstance, which isn't so. This is something that people claim is backed by science, but so far, this has yet to be proven.

There is no such thing as proven in science. For example, it hasn't been proven that illness and disease are caused by microscopic organisms, it's just that there is overwhelming evidence to point the finger at bacteria and viruses.
In the same way, there is overwhelming evidence that sexual orientation is inborn

Being born gay, was was an idea that those involved in the gay community started back in the 80's to make it so any words against homosexuality would be on the same level as talking against blacks - people quite literally born that way.

I think you've been looking at too much propaganda. Many gays and lesbians do not want substantial evidence that they were born as they are especially genetic evidence. There is a long history of fear that such evidence will lead to forced genetic testing and the euthanizing of infants that test positive.

 

[SilverBear]

You could probably find some Christian denom. which would support that belief. Very liberal minded. I used to think such "broad-minded" thinking was cool but recently I feel very conflicted about the whole gay issue. I mean Jesus would probably hang out with those on the fringe of society like gays. Personally I disagree with gay marriage but that doesn't mean I don't suffer pangs of guilt for having that stance. Who knows. Maybe one day, we Christians will be in the minority on this. If we aren't already. I feel sorry for people who are genuinely attracted to their own sex. it presents so many problems.

Problems caused by attitudes like yours

 

[woobadooba]

I think it is better to ask if God supports it. The Bible is already clear on this matter.

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22 NKJV)

Don't support practices God condemns.

 

[SilverBear]

First, keep in mind that you can still treat people with love and kindness while NOT supporting their sin.

Now, you know it's against the Bible. So try replacing it in your question with something else that is against the Bible that you aren't conflicted about.

"I know raping is against the Bible, but I can't help feeling I should support rape and rapists," for example.

Does that sound like a really good idea, or a really bad idea?

is equating an entire minority with rapists loving?

 

[-V-]

is equating an entire minority with rapists loving?

Do you also condemn the Bible when it says being guilty of one sin makes you guilty of all sins? James 2:10

Further, in the old covenant, both rape & homosexual acts were punishable by death. So, God seems to view them in a rather similar way.

 

[Matthew C Seufer]

Let me start off by apologizing if I'm putting this in the wrong part of the forum. This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I'm hoping to get some opinions. I support not only same sex marriage, but also the LGBT community in general. Can I still be a Christian despite this? I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here. I feel guilty, but I can't change how I feel. Thanks for reading.

The question you should ask yourself is not what you believe
or what you feel, but what does God say? As a Christian, He
is the one you will have to answer.

Exactly -we are all sinners.Only answer to God..just my opinion

 

[Hidden In Him]

And Christians wonder why so many gays and lesbians want nothing to do with the Christian religion.

What good would it do to encourage people in doctrines that blindly lead others to Hell for all eternity? That's not very "loving" is it? What exactly was your argument?

 

[disciple1]

Let me start off by apologizing if I'm putting this in the wrong part of the forum. This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I'm hoping to get some opinions. I support not only same sex marriage, but also the LGBT community in general. Can I still be a Christian despite this? I know that something such as same sex marriage directly goes against what's in the Bible (marriage being between one man and one woman). I'm really conflicted here. I feel guilty, but I can't change how I feel. Thanks for reading.

Let me point out something to you, everyone sins, no sin is worse than the other, I'm not against gay marriage either.
Now let me show you something about the law, it was never meant to be obeyed, it was meant to lead us to Christ, a perfect human being, here's some verses that explain.
1 John chapter 1 verse 8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
James chapter 2 verse 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

1 Timothy chapter 1 verse7, 8
They want to be teachers of the law but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
Galatians chapter 3 verses 24,25,23
So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed.