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I appreciate your zeal for your interpretation of what the bible says. I encourage you to continue knowing what you know until you are ready to consider more.

I mean if you're salty becuase everything you try to attack me with on multiple forums/discussions doesn't work or shut me up just say it lol...no need to disguise it as some backhanded compliment.
 
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no in the bible whenever the g is little it's referencing a lower being to God or a made up god by individuals that is...lower because it doesn't exist logically.
Srry, but the Bible we have was written in Majorscule so your little "g" does not appear in the Bible. They have been translated from all capitals and not lower case. The word is GOD and is in all caps, only the translators decided to make it a lower case.
 
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Srry, but te ible we have was written in Majorscule so your little g does not appear inthe Bible. he all have been translated from all capitals and not lower case. The word is GOD is in all caps, only the translators decided to make it a lower case.

But why are the only instances in which G is lower case is when an "idol god" or satan or something outside of God is being addressed?


Like if the G was lowercase in instances where it should be capitalized clearly and evidently just by reading the text I would understand where you're coming from.

But the one instance in which it's at least somewhat of a controversy only becuase God is in the same verse as "god" (corinthians 4:4) it still fits just fine and even commentaries and translations and etc. mostly agree with the placement of "god" in corinthians 4:4 addressing satan. There is some dispute there for corinthians 4:4 but barely any...and everywhere else "god" is placed people agree it's supposed to be there because it references a false or idol god or some other force.
 
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I mean if you're salty becuase everything you try to attack me with on multiple forums/discussions doesn't work or shut me up just say it lol...no need to disguise it as some backhanded compliment.
You sound young. Try not to read more into words than are there. Everyone is not out to attack you. I only asked questions, never did I state my opinion on the subject, or say you were wrong about anything... nor did you care to ask. I can see that you know all you are willing to know now....and I see nothing wrong with it.... So there is no need to further communication on the subject. If you just want the last word or to "come out on top" in your own head. You can have it now. I take no pleasure in these things.
 
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You sound young. Try not to read more into words than are there. Everyone is not out to attack you. I only asked questions, never did I state my opinion on the subject, or say you were wrong about anything... nor did you care to ask. I can see that you know all you are willing to know now....and I see nothing wrong with it.... So there is no need to further communication on the subject. If you just want the last word or to "come out on top" in your own head. You can have it now. I take no pleasure in these things.


I am young but age doesn't play a factor when it comes to knowing the Word. It does when it comes to experience though.


Also the way you asked your questions favors a anti-satan view. It's kind of like if you've ever seen a presidential debate, the people on the panel ask questions specifically that favor an agenda and you came across that way.

IF that isn't the case I guess i'm mistaken but just something to help you out in the future when playing Socrates...ask both people in the discussion questions and make them as neutral as possible... cause if you just focus on one person with questions that favor the other person if they aren't addressed correctly...it's one sided.

It also doesn't help if you randomly start asking me questions on another discussion board...makes it seem like you have an agenda against that person.


Lastly i'm not trying to have the last word here...I could care less about such things as well..i'm just trying to help you out.
 
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But why are the only instances in which G is lower case is when an "idol god" or satan or something outside of God is being addressed?Like if the G was lowercase in instances where it should be capitalized clearly and evidently just by reading the text I would understand where you're coming from. But the one instance in which it's at least somewhat of a controversy only becuase God is in the same verse as "god" (corinthians 4:4) it still fits just fine and even commentaries and translations and etc. mostly agree with the placement of "god" in corinthians 4:4 addressing satan. There is some dispute there for corinthians 4:4 but barely any...and everywhere else "god" is placed people agree it's supposed to be there because it references a false or idol god or some other force.
That is why God blinds unbelivers and that is why some do not understand that Christ is the image of the same God. If you Read the Siniactus or the other manuscripts and you will see it is capitalized and does not address an idol or other thing as a god.
 
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That is why God blinds unbelivers and that is why some do not understand that Christ is the image of the same God Read the Siniactus or the other manuscripts and you will see it is capitalized and does not address an idol or other thing as a .god
tbh I think i'll check them out cause i'm trying to figure out where your view stems from. Was a good talk
 
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Why are people who say they are Christian so superstitious when it involves demons, devils, and satanic adversaries that are actually idols and thoughts in the heart of evil thinking men?
That sounds like someone who doesn't believe in the existence of the Devil or demons, that's not superstition, that's the New Testament witness. Calling it idolatry is rude, to put it mildly.
 
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That is why God blinds unbelivers and that is why some do not understand that Christ is the image of the same God. If you Read the Siniactus or the other manuscripts and you will see it is capitalized and does not address an idol or other thing as a god.
I get what you're saying... now that i'm looking at it.. but it has a direct translation as well into English...and in English the g is lowercase. It also says the god of this world has darkned the understanding of the believers..

then says this is done so the light of the Gospel of christ who is the image of God cannot shine forth.

why would God go against himself if you believe the adjustment in the translation carries no weight and really means the same as God?
 
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I get what you're saying... now that i'm looking at it.. but it has a direct translation as well into English...and in English the g is lowercase. It also says the god of this world has darkned the understanding of the believers..

then says this is done so the light of the Gospel of christ who is the image of God cannot shine forth.

why would God go against himself if you believe the adjustment in the translation carries no weight and really means the same as God?
Beware lest that come upon you which is spoken of in the prophets.41 ... for I work a working your days, a work which you shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. 2Peter 3:17 beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
 
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Bewarelest that come upon you which is spoken of in the prophets.41 ... for i work a workin your days, a work which you shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
look i'm just speaking from my heart man.. this isn't even about debate or nothing.


see Satan isn't scared of religious Christians who just fellowship to themselves and learn the Bible.

He's scared of people who go on the offense and cast out demons, bring people out of drugs, and oppose the enemy... to not believe in him or the impact of sin is only helping him out. He's scared of Christians who actually realize the the word is a sword...that is sharper than any other weapon, and a discerner of thoughts and all intents of the heart.

People were deceived by a similar message with slavery "if you support slavery then don't own a slave" (ironically this same message is used to support abortion) but my point is by not addressing something you just let it continue.


All i'm trying to do is to encourage you to believe in the enemy and really seek a new revelation and new power you can have with God.

I feel led to end it with those words...you can say whatever else you have to say but I encourage and pray that you at least consider the possibility of an opposing force. That you consider that "wicked" in the verse you just utilized goes beyond just a mental state of mind.
 
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look i'm just speaking from my heart man.. this isn't even about debate or nothing. see Satan isn't scared of religious Christians who just fellowship to themselves and learn the Bible. He's scared of people who go on the offense and cast out demons, bring people out of drugs, and oppose the enemy... to not believe in him or the impact of sin is only helping him out. He's scared of Christians who actually realize the the word is a sword...that is sharper than any other weapon, and a discerner of thoughts and all intents of the heart.
People were deceived by a similar message with slavery "if you support slavery then don't own a slave" (ironically this same message is used to support abortion) but my point is by not addressing something you just let it continue. All i'm trying to do is to encourage you to believe in the enemy and really seek a new revelation and new power you can have with God. I feel led to end it with those words...you can say whatever else you have to say but I encourage and pray that you at least consider the possibility of an opposing force. That you consider that "wicked" in the verse you just utilized goes beyond just a mental state of mind.
Thanks, I respect you for wanting to be correct but the way thereof leads to destruction. There are no forces which God allows to challange Him. No fallen angels as Rev 1:1 proves that all things must be to the future of John. So where did your creature come from? There is no fear with God only faith to believe in Him and to continue to defend the truth. May God send you a message to think about and mull over the words I have spoken from His truth.
 
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I recall an inscription found

The ancients attributed epilepsy and malaria or fever to demons. These might be healed by God through prayer or in some cases medicine. I wrote some about it on a web page. I quoted fragments of manuscripts dating back to Roman and Byzantine times:

Casting Out a Demon

When Satan was desiring to sift Peter like a pile of wheat, who was Satan? Who eventually took Peter's life in an effort to break up the church and force people to worship Caesar?
Who were these adversaries?

As Jesus described them Those who are the children of another father
 
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Is 43:10 ..that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed neither shall there be after me.
Now is judgement upon the world. Now is the prince of this world cast out

Christ came not to bring peace but division

But now the division is clearly marked:

Those who serve the father of their salvation in by and through the son

And those who knowingly or unknowingly serve "another father" who was a liar and a murderer who when he speaks, he speaks his native tongue: lies
 
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Additionally, i'm apostolic... trust me we emphasis the One God concept probably more so then anyone else does... i'm not promoting multiple omnipresent beings. I'm speaking of "gods" little g or in other words beings who don't deserve such a title yet in the bible were/are worshipped/uplifted as if they are the equal of the mighty God.

And some of these beings such as Satan exist.
Many profess to have "god(s)" but deny Jesus

Those who do, have neither the Son or the True Father

God by sending his son shut up the mouths of every lying whispering spirit who mutters anything and everything but Jesus and him crucified which is the hidden wisdom of God made known to men

It is why it is written:

Where are your "wisemen" now?
Let them tell what the lord sabboath will do...for He has mixed in them a spirit of dizziness
Which has caused "Egypt" to err in every way

And when they tell you to seek spirits should not a people consult their God?

To the dead for the Living (One)?

Demons and Satan are just lying spirits
And since there is only One Testimony, if these voices whisper anything but the testimony of God they are made manifest who they are: Satan and his demons
 
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When discussing religious and/or political issues on internet forums it is not unusual to see opinions strongly expressed even to the point of one person calling another person 'a liar'. I think it important to pause to consider exactly what 'a lie' is. My understanding is that a lie is an untruth that is told in the full knowledge that it is an untruth. It is very difficult in an impersonal forum like an internet chat room to know another person's understandings or motivations. I think that sometimes a person will state an opinion not knowing that it is not factually true or even in the firm conviction that it is true. In such a situation the person is not a liar even though they might be totally misinformed. A lie is a very different thing than an untruth.
 
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When discussing religious and/or political issues on internet forums it is not unusual to see opinions strongly expressed even to the point of one person calling another person 'a liar'. I think it important to pause to consider exactly what 'a lie' is. My understanding is that a lie is an untruth that is told in the full knowledge that it is an untruth. It is very difficult in an impersonal forum like an internet chat room to know another person's understandings or motivations. I think that sometimes a person will state an opinion not knowing that it is not factually true or even in the firm conviction that it is true. In such a situation the person is not a liar even though they might be totally misinformed. A lie is a very different thing than an untruth.
Can you please explain where this post came from and for what reason?

Did somebody call another poster a liar?

Or were they referring to the father of lies as being Satan and not some form of physical or mental illness
 
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When Jesus was healing and casting our demons, the "learned" men of the law said:

It's by beelzebub he casts our demons

And Jesus said if I cast out demons by beelzebub, who do the sons (of the kingdom) cast them out by?

Then they will be your judges


The sons of God will testify that it is by Christ that demons are cast out
 
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When we have people claiming to be Christian who use mediums, or who say they trust God but then won't walk under a ladder

An intelligent person never walks under a ladder.
 
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Who or what do you believe the god of this world is? And if you believe you serve the big G, why is there need to fear little g's?
one "God" not one "god"

2 Corinthians 4:4

“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

King James Version (KJV)
Do you believe in witches? Do you believe in Jenn? Do you believe in Halloween? How about Casper the ghost? Do you think we should burn witches at the stake? Do you believe in Endor witches? Do you believe in the Salem burning of witches? What is the difference between your devil witch and these?
 
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