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Why are people who say they are Christian so superstitious when it involves demons, devils, and satanic adversaries that are actually idols and thoughts in the heart of evil thinking men?
A Christian should not think that demons, devils, and satanic adversaries are a superstition. A Christian should believe scripture or they would not be Christian.
 
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Why are people who say they are Christian so superstitious when it involves demons, devils, and satanic adversaries that are actually idols and thoughts in the heart of evil thinking men?
Maybe because for many Christians their religion is more about "casting out Satan" than it is about Jesus Christ?
 
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Why are people who say they are Christian so superstitious when it involves demons, devils, and satanic adversaries that are actually idols and thoughts in the heart of evil thinking men?

Satan and assorted fallen angels are real enough as is plainly clear in scripture.

We do not live in a Manichean universe however , the devil compared to God is like a candle compared to the sun.

So we should neither dismiss the existence of evil as some mythical superstition nor exaggerate its significance.
 
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Satan and assorted fallen angels are real enough as is plainly clear in scripture.

We do not live in a Manichean universe however , the devil compared to God is like a candle compared to the sun.

So we should neither dismiss the existence of evil as some mythical superstition nor exaggerate its significance.
Evil is not from a devil, evil is within your own heart for you to decide how to control it. The myth of a satan or devils is disproved by all modern ways of reading the Bible, and from History. Look at what happened to the vagabond Jews, exorcists, who thought they had power to expel demons. Acts 19:13 then look at what happened verse 15 yhey fled out of that house naked and wounded...
 
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A Christian should not think that demons, devils, and satanic adversaries are a superstition. A Christian should believe scripture or they would not be Christian.
What does the scripture say? Mark7:21-22 For from within, out of the heart of men, procede vil thoughts...22 wickedness evil eye, foolishness, 23 All thses evil things come from within and defile the man. Heb 3:12 least there be any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the livig God.
 
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Exactly that is why they are superstitious and have been blinded
Paul must have imagined his @Thorn" then.

Though he learned to be content in all things understanding that Christ's grace was sufficient to him

sometimes we think we have to work harder when all we really have to do is rest in god's sovereignty in all things[/QUOTE] The thprn in Paul was thought to be a malady of some sort and not a devil, Reads GILL. Got a book on Bible commentry? If notbetter get one
 
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Why are people who say they are Christian so superstitious when it involves demons, devils, and satanic adversaries that are actually idols and thoughts in the heart of evil thinking men?

To say there is no devil is evil and anti-Christian. I suppose then Jesus the Christ was wicked when hallucinating Satan. God forbid. Again, it is evil.
 
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Yep. When folks start talking about "exorcising" the demons out of your house or other inanimate objects, they're doing nothing but practicing medieval superstition.

In addition, folks claiming that brain diseases and other mental illnesses are mostly caused by demon possession or attacks are also being superstitious.



In our homes it is possible to have inanimate objects that are unholy. Pentagrams, Drug paraphernalia, religious candles, Buda the list could go on forever. No Christian should be identified with or have these symbols or inanimate objects in their house. Let's not forget that the sin of idolatry falls in 2 commandments creating or possessing manmade objects is the first commandment.


In saying all that I think that it is wrong for a Christian to be in the bondage of focusing on the spiritual impact of these objects or fear the evil associated with them, this can take our focus off of Jesus. But it would be equally wrong not to pay mind to these things we should not ignore them.


As for rebuking evil out of our homes, Luke says he gave us authority over snakes and scorpions and all the power of the enemy. Snakes and scorpions being physical and the enemies power being the spiritual.


When Jesus told us to pray let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. The earth we stand on is still physical. The enemy has servants such as those truth stealing birds and has weapons that hinder God's will being done. In most cases especially if you are a father and head of a household you can see the enemy encroaching on the land and sheep he gave you. I have seen benefits and results in opening the front door and commanding the enemy to flee and to stop harassing yourself and your family members. In the beginning, I suffered ridicule from my children and relatives that they told about it. I get very little ridicule anymore. I have noticed that some close their eyes and agree now.


If anybody has ever read of deliverances in the Bible or seen a true deliverance anointing (on a believer) a lot of physical action sometimes accompanies the deliverance. Let's not forget that the enemy's territory and playground is in our flesh, the snake eats dust (our flesh is dust). These are physical, rebuking, binding and prayer and fasting are spiritual. But rebuking (aka commanding) has a physical component. It has to come from our physical lips and is usually loud and with some force. Binding and prayers are the same. Fasting relates to the physical food is an inanimate object. God's word is written in the physical in some form or another before we read it or hear it.


So even our most spiritual weapons have some existence in the physical, as do we no matter how spiritual we are (or think we are) our existence is still temporarily in the physical.

As for mental illness, the battleground between the flesh and the spirit is in the mind. Some things such as depression, addiction and schizophrenia are sinful, evil and even demonic in origin. But even if a person is delivered damage has been done. Like a person that vandalizes a building, the vandal is known by his damage not his person. So a healing is needed Jesus can heal supernaturally but that is the exception not the rule. Our (I include myself) sinful lack of faith, doubt, fear sin, disobedience which abound in us inhibits God’s healing power. God has also given us physical methods to heal the mind, they can be especially effective if they are used with love.
 
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Evil is not from a devil, evil is within your own heart for you to decide how to control it. The myth of a satan or devils is disproved by all modern ways of reading the Bible, and from History. Look at what happened to the vagabond Jews, exorcists, who thought they had power to expel demons. Acts 19:13 then look at what happened verse 15 yhey fled out of that house naked and wounded...

Evil is traditionally seen in the world the flesh and the demonic realm. It is a false witness to exaggerate any of these at the expense of the others.

Scripture is very clear on the existence of the devil and it is deceptive to reread it in the light of the false assumptions and corrupted presuppositions of many modern cultures.

Ephesians 6:10-18
 
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I do agree that most human evil comes from the human heart, without the assistance of devils. However, apart from obvious biblical references to the existence of such things, I've personally sensed the presence of a demon on more than one occasion. In the last instance I could have told you where in the room it was standing. I didn't blame it for any physical manifestation. There were no objects flying about the room, no infirmities, no evil human intent. I just knew there was a demon right there.

And, yes, demons can reside in inanimate physical objects. No, I don't know why.
 
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Paul must have imagined his @Thorn" then.

Though he learned to be content in all things understanding that Christ's grace was sufficient to him

sometimes we think we have to work harder when all we really have to do is rest in god's sovereignty in all things
The thprn in Paul was thought to be a malady of some sort and not a devil, Reads GILL. Got a book on Bible commentry? If notbetter get one[/QUOTE]

We have no idea what Pauls thorn was. I would think it was a fleshly desire. The flesh is our weakest link to God. Grace is God knowing and understanding that we are weak, and his patience with that weakness. He knows that we cannot be perfect, though we try. It's the way a loving Father see's his child.
 
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Why are people who say they are Christian so superstitious when it involves demons, devils, and satanic adversaries that are actually idols and thoughts in the heart of evil thinking men?
Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is, I can't tell you who is and who isn't, it's true of pastors to, I once had a pastor try to kick me.
 
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The thprn in Paul was thought to be a malady of some sort and not a devil, Reads GILL. Got a book on Bible commentry? If notbetter get one

We have no idea what Pauls thorn was. I would think it was a fleshly desire. The flesh is our weakest link to God. Grace is God knowing and understanding that we are weak, and his patience with that weakness. He knows that we cannot be perfect, though we try. It's the way a loving Father see's his child.[/QUOTE] Yes, but it was something physical and not a supernatural power of demons!
 
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Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is, I can't tell you who is and who isn't, it's true of pastors to, I once had a pastor try to kick me.
This is usually what happens when you try to take more than one drink at the communion tables....
 
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Maybe because for many Christians their religion is more about "casting out Satan" than it is about Jesus Christ?
How many times does the house have to be cleaned for the house to know it has been cleaned?
 
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