Reconnecting with old friend... but he is a ''homosexual Christian''

[frienden thalord]

Mans ideas have failed the churches. The HOLY SPIRIT should never have been
traded in for mans wisdom.

 

[tryintogrow]

There are certain people in my past whom I would not have the patience or ability to witness to. But if you met them on the street, you'd be able to minister to them just fine. Likewise if I met your friend, I could talk to him. Trust God to keep working in his life.

 

[WilliamBo]

Let me give a real good example of WHY this love them don't work.
Say I am in a sin. So this church comes along , wont correct me , but just hugs me.
I am going to feel comforatable and accepted IN MY SIN.
But , if real HOLY GHOST saints rebuke me , warn me all out
my chances of repenting JUST INCREASED, either that or I leave.
But either way, at least one might repent and the others wont have to be subjected
to my erroneous ways.
Used to be, when the SPIRIT led the churches, any in a sin.....FELT conviction
they heard sound doctrine. some fled, but some came up with tears of sorrow REPENTING.
THIS IS what we need BACK IN the churches.

That's true but false churches were prophesied about 2000 years ago... with the amount of evil that has always existed in the human race, it was bound to happen. The Pharisee spirit is still alive today, but instead of them being leaders in jewish temples, now they reside in Christian churches

 

[WilliamBo]

There are certain people in my past whom I would not have the patience or ability to witness to. But if you met them on the street, you'd be able to minister to them just fine. Likewise if I met your friend, I could talk to him. Trust God to keep working in his life.

Yea wow that's true. I supposed sometimes our BIGGEST weaknesses can be those we have been close with in the past, especially if we weren't pursuing God at the time

 

[frienden thalord]

That's true but false churches were prophesied about 2000 years ago... with the amount of evil that has always existed in the human race, it was bound to happen. The Pharisee spirit is still alive today, but instead of them being leaders in jewish temples, now they reside in Christian churches

The falling away has went so out of control.....the christain relgioin now teaches
Interfaith. all gods save etc, all roads lead etc. They have no idea
this will lead to the god who exalts himself above all gods.
Let us remember the words of JESUS. When they asked him but LORD when will this
be , when will be the end etc......his first words were let no man deceive you
for many shall come IN MY NAME ...........we have a pretender in high places
who as judas betrayed Christ , this one betrays the body.

 

[tryintogrow]

Then Jesus told them, "A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family." -- Mark 6:4

 

[WilliamBo]

The falling away has went so out of control.....the christain relgioin now teaches
Interfaith. all gods save etc, all roads lead etc.

Reminds me of Oprah Winfrey-

Then Jesus told them, "A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family." -- Mark 6:4

 

[frienden thalord]

Reminds me of Oprah Winfrey-

Oh yeah its been an agenda. But look at WHO runs the show NOW.
Who is gathering all different faiths back home and who
is getting all the religions to join as one too. The trail leads somewhere
and it sure leaves a lot of crumbs to see Who leads IT.
A world relgion HAS BEEN BORN. and in time all who conform not to it
well, I am sure we have heard of the GREAT TRIBULATION.
its just how fast its picking up momentum , specially this last year.
I say fear not what man can do to you. And love not our lives .
Instead do all unto the LORD who has given us hope and life.
This life is but a vapor anyway.........but eternal life...........try and measure that ........

 

[WilliamBo]

Oh yeah its been an agenda. But look at WHO runs the show NOW.
Who is gathering all different faiths back home and who
is getting all the religions to join as one too. The trail leads somewhere
and it sure leaves a lot of crumbs to see Who leads IT.
A world relgion HAS BEEN BORN. and in time all who conform not to it
well, I am sure we have heard of the GREAT TRIBULATION.
its just how fast its picking up momentum , specially this last year.
I say fear not what man can do to you. And love not our lives .
Instead do all unto the LORD who has given us hope and life.
This life is but a vapor anyway.........but eternal life...........try and measure that ........

Yea, and the scary thing is this one-world religion will be done in the name of PEACE, so anyone who doesn't conform to it will be seen as EVIL

 

[GTW27]

You're right, the reason I posted this is because it was strangely horrific, going from feeling peace and love to feeling such intense fear and anxiety was horrible, I'm still trying to figure out what happened. I don't know if it was Holy Spirit or if it was only me that disagrees with it. Anyway, thanks

WilliamBo, I believe that what happened to you was the beginnings of a Spiritual Gift. It is the Gift of Discerning of Spirits. This can be done by the picture or even his words on paper. The fear and anxiety are his, not yours. When this happens to you, just pray, and The Lord will remove it, and restore you. This Gift causes us to walk very close to The Lord. Hope this explains what happened and have no fear for He that in us is great than he that is in the world. If per chance you still feel it, just pray and watch what happens.

 

[WilliamBo]

WilliamBo, I believe that what happened to you was the beginnings of a Spiritual Gift. It is the Gift of Discerning of Spirits. This can be done by the picture or even his words on paper. The fear and anxiety are his, not yours. When this happens to you, just pray, and The Lord will remove it, and restore you. This Gift causes us to walk very close to The Lord. Hope this explains what happened and have no fear for He that in us is great than he that is in the world. If per chance you still feel it, just pray and watch what happens.

Wow, I wasn't expecting that, thank you for very much for your input. I don't fully understand what you mean but I will pray about it and try to understand better. I've been praying about it ever since it happened and I am finally starting to slowly return to a normal state. I mean, whatever happened was BAD. I looked at his picture and suddenly I felt like an army of demons just ransacked me with horrible emotions. Do you have this gift?

 

[Winken]

Yea, I definitely DON'T want to make him feel even worse. I feel I am not strong enough to be able to minister to him in love and truth yet but i WANT to... it was the opposite for a long time with HIM ministering to ME, so it's a strange situation, especially with him being 15 years older than me. I know he is convicted, especially after a super close friend of his becomes a Christian and plainly lets him know he doesn't accept homosexuality. I don't want to argue with him, I'm just going to unfriend him for now and see if i can help him in the future when I am stronger spiritually

Unfriending him was a powerful first step in overcoming your anxiety. Be blessed!

 

[GTW27]

Wow, I wasn't expecting that, thank you for very much for your input. I don't fully understand what you mean but I will pray about it and try to understand better. I've been praying about it ever since it happened and I am finally starting to slowly return to a normal state. I mean, whatever happened was BAD. I looked at his picture and suddenly I felt like an army of demons just ransacked me with horrible emotions. Do you have this gift?

Yes I do and it requires a constant regrouping, or asking The Lord to remove what was discerned. As we grow in Him it becomes easier because there is more of Him and less of us. This Gift will also let you know who truly is in Him because The Spirit bare witness to The Spirit. Hope this helps. Have a Blessed night.

 

[WilliamBo]

Yes I do and it requires a constant regrouping, or asking The Lord to remove what was discerned. As we grow in Him it becomes easier because there is more of Him and less of us. This Gift will also let you know who truly is in Him because The Spirit bare witness to The Spirit. Hope this helps. Have a Blessed night.

You are right on the money. I just read this article-

8 Signs You May Have The Spiritual Gift of Discernment

and everything it says is absolutely what I have experienced in the past and present. I've had this discernment my whole life, I would ALWAYS see things that people never saw in people, places, and things and it always made me feel misunderstood, lonely, and frustrated... like the article says, it's a natural gift/talent that people have that God redeems and uses for His purpose when someone gets saved. The 8th sign says ''You may have the gift confirmed through a prophecy given to you'' which is what you just did. The NEW AGE movement, which i used to be involved with, told me I was an ''EMPATH,'' which is the perversion of discernment, but there is some truth to what an ''empath'' is... the New Age/occultism says that empaths have an extraordinary ability to feel other peoples emotions and have to keep a ''distance'' from others so that they don't get emotionally overwhelmed by absorbing everyones ''energy.'' I'm sorry if I'm rambling, this is just really exciting and fascinating to me

Thank you for letting me know I have this, I might not of ever figured it out otherwise.

 

[ubicaritas]

I think you are projecting your own feelings onto him. He goes to a gay-affirming church and I doubt he is as uneasy about being gay as you are. It's more likely that you find it difficult to be friends with someone who's religion disagrees with yours on a subject you consider so important.

 

[RaymondG]

Good thing God didn't unfriend you while you were living in sin. How bad your sin must have looked to him.....Maybe He should have spoke to his hosts of angels about you and they in turn, suggest to stay far away from you. But no, God loves us even when we are at our lowest.....If only we could treat Him the same way......When we was in Jail we didn't visit him, when He wanted to be our friend on FB we unfriended Him. How? you say? What you do to the least.....

 

[Halbhh]

From age 18-22 I was very involved in the 12-step groups Alcohol Annonymous and Narcotics Annonymous... I had not yet found God and I was a drug user back then and was trying to get sober. Anyway, I made lots of friends in these meetings and eventually met my sponsor who happened to be homosexual, but that didn't bother me, he had like 5 years sober and was helping me get sober, work the 12 steps, encouraged me, and helped me get on my feet... he even let me live with him when I was homeless living on the streets. He had a really good heart and he really loved my family and my family really liked him because they knew he was a good person that was trying to help me... he even used to listen to gospel music in front of me and I would laugh at him for it, thinking he was so weird for listening to Christian music

So he was my sponsor for like 4 years and he was like my best friend. But when I was 23 I found God and he was happy about that because he was a Christian too, but I made it clear to him that I thought homosexuality was a sin... and that really, really bothered him because he didn't want to give up homosexuality and he knew I was serious. He even went to a church in a gay area where they all loved God and praised God, but they were FIRM that homosexuality was NOT a sin and that they were fine to be homosexual.... and I didn't agree with that, but I wasn't rude about it, I only mentioned it to a few people respectfully. I even went with him to this church a few times just to check it out, and it wasn't all homosexuals but the majority were.

So fast-forward to today, 5ish years later. I stopped hanging out with him shortly after I found God and started pursuing my new Christian path without him. I haven't seen him in like 3 years now and I just started a facebook account where I have only Christian friends... he is the only person I have friend requested that I have ''question'' about whether he is a Christian or not and as soon as he accepted my friend request, a VERY uneasy feeling came into my spirit... my peace and joy immediately left and was replaced with fear and anxiety. Now I regret friend requesting him and I don't want to hurt his feelings by un-friending him. I don't know what to do. He always had a ''guilty conscience'' for his homosexuality around me towards the end and that fear and discomfort from him seems to rub off on me, and now i feel like i just opened up a very bad ''connection.''

I looked up to him for 4 years and he helped me with so much... we had a really good friendship but he was so wrapped up in homosexuality that I would be very surprised if he has come out of that lifestyle. He was living with his ''boyfriend'' last time i saw him. I know he has struggled with so much in his life and I still care about him as a friend but I feel like right now, as my soul and heart are healing through Christ, i don't need to be talking to someone that endorses sin like that... i am no longer a drug-user, i am focused only on God to heal my heart and my soul now.

What would you guys do? I feel really bad, his facebook page says ''I am loved by the Father'' on his title but based on his pictures, it looks like he is going to gay pride festivals and stuff like that... I don't know why i lost my peace and joy like that, it is really disturbing me. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Here in our local part of the country, the word "homosexual" has a different meaning than "gay".

Here, in this area, "homosexual" means a promiscuous gay person having lots of sex, and likely with multiple partners.

In contrast, the word "gay" means instead that they are more attracted to the same gender than to the opposite gender, but does not suggest they are promiscuous....

Because of this difference here, I would actually be doing a sin to call someone homosexual unless I have somehow directly witnessed that they are promiscuous. (It would even be false witness actually)

Of course, the gay people I know, I couldn't say that any of them are promiscuous for sure. How many seem to flaunt that? They don't live in our area.

In fact, the local people I know of that are gay actually some of them seem to be celibate, as best I can tell, though that's a guess of course, but it looks that way.

Is a celibate gay person a "homosexual" where you live?

In any case, I've found out that all people have sinned, and not only some.... So that kind of puts a perspective on it also.

Our only hope is Christ Jesus, alone.

 

[RaymondG]

We want God to deliver us from every sin imaginable....we Want Him to hear our call no matter the detestability of the sins we are in...and once He does, we disassociate ourselves from others we believe have certain sins? We want God to do for us what we wont do for others?

God friends us in our time of need so that we can inturn unfriend others we feel haven't been touched by God yet?

 

[WilliamBo]

Here in our local part of the country, the word "homosexual" has a different meaning than "gay".

Here, in this area, "homosexual" means a promiscuous gay person having lots of sex, and likely with multiple partners.

In contrast, the word "gay" means instead that they are more attracted to the same gender than to the opposite gender, but does not suggest they are promiscuous....

That was the exact argument they had at this gay church- that the word for ''homosexual'' in the Bible actually meant ''rape,'' and that the original greek/Hebrew text didn't actually have a word for homosexual and that Jesus was silent on homosexuality. I really gave this church, my friend, and gay people i met at this church the benefit of the doubt BIG TIME, even sticking up for them against Christian friends I had that said they were completely wrong because I WANTED them to be right, i actually liked the people there, lesbians and all, many of the were good people. But I believe the Lord has revealed to me that declaring to be homosexual is wrong and perverted just like any other sin.

 

[tryintogrow]

Oh good gravy, this thread became featured and look where we are now...