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No one is promoting worshiping humans, not even those evil Catholics.Christians! Let's worship God and not humans!
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No one is promoting worshiping humans, not even those evil Catholics.Christians! Let's worship God and not humans!
Understood. There are lots of History books. It is, however, been agreed that there are some writings that are considered to be the words of God Himself. They are all included in what was agreed to be indicated as canonical.Several Hebrew records and writings we kept as Holy along with the records we ourselves have written and kept~are Holy and Important to us and all who are Christian.
Anything that we have omitted we nor God have not necessarily forbidden.
All tradition, not every story was not written down, and other than what we have written can be as Christian as that on Parchment.
seth
No one is promoting worshiping humans, not even those evil Catholics.
So you decide to respond to an obvious sarcastic remark, but not the meat of the statement, huh? And who's misled?Not evil, but misled. We're all God's beloved creation. And not Catholics only. We have Orthodox and others who are in the same error.
So you decide to respond to an obvious sarcastic remark, but not the meat of the statement, huh? And who's misled?
You posted on "No one is promoting worshiping humans"? Hmm I must have missed that.I think I've posted on that exact subject more than anybody in this thread... Please scroll up.
It is my understanding that the position of the Roman Catholic Church is that they are not praying 'to' the saints, but asking the saints to pray on their behalf. I could be wrong, and apologize in advance if so.The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God.
The Bible nowhere encourages or even MENTIONS believers asking individuals in Heaven for their prayers.
Some believe that those who are glorified in Heaven have MORE "direct access" to God than we do.
Therefore, if a saint delivers a prayer to God on our behalf, it is MORE effective than us praying to God directly.
This concept is blatantly un-Biblical.
Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we, believers here on earth, can "approach the throne of grace with confidence."
My dear sisters and brothers, what is your opinion/view on this?
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"No one is promoting
One exampleHundreds of millions, if not billions, do.
they are not praying 'to' the saints, but asking the saints to pray on their behalf.
Yeah, I was raised Catholic and never understood things like the rosary and praying to various saints, etc... The statement "they are not praying 'to' the saints, but asking the saints to pray on their behalf." I got from here:Well, it's a paradox, then. To pray is to ask. They're asking the saints to ask on their behalf? How's it not praying? Absurd.
Greetings, Friend of Jesus, You're saying others are asking a Saint to pray for them, ~ but you're not saying they worship them. OK
You know we pray to The Christ and we also Worship Christ~this I think you permit``
Are there Saint, in your belief or not~or are they~like sleeping dead~what is it like to be with Our God~in your thinking````
seth
Just as there are many forms of love, there are many types of worship. There is worship which is reserved for God alone, there is worship/honor given to people, and there is special honor for Jesus' mother. laetere, dulia and hyper-dulia.To venerate is to worship. If a murderer says, I don't murder I simply take lives, it doesn't change the action and the results the least bit...
Right. Aren't all our prayers ultimately for God? So we're asking a group of people to make our requests known to the only one who can do anything about it...Same thing.As I have posted before... they are not receiving prayers to themselves, addressed to them, or anything else. They are simply taking the prayers, that are addressed to Christ, to Christ....