I already explained it to you. If a believer's ashes are cast at sea, they will not be in any grave and nor will they have ears to hear.
It doesn't matter where the "dust" ends up. That is still the grave.
Jason0047 said:
This is talking exclusively about the resurrected body coming forth. It does not mean it is talking about the soul and spirit residing with the body in the grave the whole time. The soul and spirit can easily be placed within the body when it is time for the new body to come forth.
There is no life during death.
Isa 38:1 ... Thus saith Jehovah, Set thy house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live.
Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years should be finished.
The ONLY escape from "dead" is, resurrection!
The "soul" is a living body;
Gen 2:7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.
Jason0047 said:
One can see God in the spirit and in the body. For Paul says there is a natural body and a spiritual body.
Yes, and Christ's "spiritual body" was a "flesh and bones" body. JUST like the resurrected righteous will be at his coming.
Jason0047 said:
Again, Paul talked of a natural body and a spiritual body. The Pre-Trib Rapture is the resurrection of the spirit body (i.e. the receiving of a new spirit body);
There is no "pre-trib Rapture". The first resurrection occurs as Jesus is descending to conquer the Nations of this planet. The resurrected/changed righteous RISE to meet Jesus in the atmosphere/clouds, and are with him from that point on.
Jason0047 said:
1 Corinthians 15:20-23 is the natural body resurrection.
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 is the spiritual body resurrection.
The "natural body" is this mortal body. It is what dies. These two passages are BOTH talking about the first resurrection.
Jason0047 said:
Moving the comma around does not change how it naturally sounds. Jesus is plainly saying to the thief that He would be with him Paradise that day.
Hogwash. You are merely brainwashed to read it that way. We KNOW Jesus was in hell later that same day.... and for 3 days after that! Paradise is God's restored earth! It doesn't exist until AFTER the 1,000 years, and the lake of fire.
Jason0047 said:
Not true. First, the "Story of Lazarus and the Richman" was not called a Parable and it did not speak generically. Second, all of Jesus's parables were based on real world examples of something that was true that has already happened or that was going to happen in our real world (at some point).
First, the other parable in that same chapter is not CALLED a parable either, and it starts EXACTLY the same way; "There was a certain rich man..".
Second, Jesus "did not speak to them without a parable". (
Matt 13:4, Mark 4:34)
Third, you are making up "rules", without one single Scripture for support. A parable is a figurative story, teaching a truth. There wasn't a literal "pearl of great price" that the parable was discussing. There wasn't a literal field with a treasure buried in it, that Jesus was pointing at. Just like, there wasn't literally a "great harlot" sitting on water in Revelation 17, or a literal creature that Daniel saw, like a leopard with 4 wings and 4 heads. I know WHY you are making up these rules. You desperately NEED to believe the parable of the rich man and Lazarus describes what happens in death, because it is the ONLY text that seems to support your theory!!! The fact that the parable isn't actually discussing death is a very inconvenient truth for you.