There is always room for one more on CF!man aren't there enough of topics on this?
Dogs are awesome!
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There is always room for one more on CF!man aren't there enough of topics on this?
There is always room for one more on CF!
Dogs are awesome!
That's Protestantism all right.
Since they don't have the sacraments they are forced to deny their effect.
The OP said in another thread that he believes the Eastern Orthodox is The Church and anyone who is not part of it is a Christian but not part of the Church which is the body and bride of Christ (I cant remember if he used one or both terms).
He has now done this post saying he believes in the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" which according to his previous posts he thinks is ONLY his church. And he said this is the Nicene creed and asks if it can be re-interpreted. Do your research as the original Nicene creed of 325 did not include a reference to the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church", this was added in the Nicence-Constantinopolitan Creed of 381.
This is already a reinterpretation of the Nicene Creed so I fail to see how you can consider the nicene creed not open to interpretation but accept this reinterpretation added at a latter date.
It does seem like certain topics come in spurts. As far as dogs go Jason0047 was also kind enough to give me a final sentence for all of my posts from now on in his post complaining about the final sentence OrthodoxyUSA puts on all his posts.true that :l I remember when there was a flood of Mary post for two days it happens, and nah tbh not into dogs.
"I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church"
It's a statement from the Nicene creed.
Is the meaning static as defined by those who wrote it or are we free to reinterpret it as we see fit?
Forgive me...
Anything authored by man can be altered by man. But anything authored by God CANNOT be altered by man. This sentence was authored by man, not by God.
Let me be clear.... our belief in the Church means NOTHING. In fact, the Scriptures says "Anyone who puts their trust in men is accursed". We believe in God and in His Son Jesus Christ, the HEAD of the Church. Any body that believes/trusts/has faith in itself is cursed to do the will of that Body. You must have faith/believe/trust in the HEAD of the Body, NOT the Body itself. Therefore, I say again, "belief in the Church" means NOTHING, and it is out of order with the Head of the Body, that is Jesus Christ.
Did they write the scriptures though?And here you trust the scriptures that were picked out by these men as led by The Holy Spirit but you want nothing to do with anything else they said.
They were in The Church. If we cant use the creed and mean it in the same way, then we are most definitely not in The Church. That was their mark and that was it's purpose.
Forgive me...
"I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church"
It's a statement from the Nicene creed.
Is the meaning static as defined by those who wrote it or are we free to reinterpret it as we see fit?
Forgive me...
I see what you are saying. And get that Catholicism and Orthodoxy are really the only contemporary Churches able to describe themselves this way.
There is also an extent to which part of me simply doesn't care as much as I used to. Theology and history matter, but it's growing darker and darker for conservative Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants alike. If you support Scriptural gender roles, Biblical marriage, and reject the notion that all roads lead to God, the number of folks out there likely to agree with you is shrinking.
It's getting dark. Pretty soon, all we'll have are candles.
I think the main question would be is the creed equivalent to scripture?Did they write the scriptures though?
I think the main question would be is the creed equivalent to scripture?
Dogs are awesome!
And here you trust the scriptures that were picked out by these men as led by The Holy Spirit but you want nothing to do with anything else they said.
They were in The Church. If we cant use the creed and mean it in the same way, then we are most definitely not in The Church. That was their mark and that was it's purpose.
Forgive me...
I disagree with that premise but then again according to the way you believe I am apparently not in "The Church".They are on the same footing. They are both "Traditioned" from The Church.
"I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church"
It's a statement from the Nicene creed.
Is the meaning static as defined by those who wrote it or are we free to reinterpret it as we see fit?
Forgive me...
Here I am, lighting fires.
I don't care to be agreed with, besides, these are not my thoughts. I am reflecting on a sermon by St. John Chrysostom, but he's not allowed here.
Forgive me..
If we don't believe in "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church". Why say that we do?
It's a lie. Nothing short of it.