Where does babies go after they die?

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Forgive me, but first of all, the question should be phrased where DO babies go after they die. If a child dies before the age of reason, it will go to heaven, where a merciful and loving God can comfort and heal him/her.

Sorry for my grammor, I have a mental illness. It keep me from saying what I really need to say. It feels like I'm being controlled by an evil spirit sometimes.
 
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I don't know where to post this question. So, staff members, I need some guidance for this post so I post it here.

But where does babies go after death? They say in some cases they go to hell, or they go to heaven.

They also say babies don't know God when they are made. But I for one knew God as He was making me. When I was born. So, I believe that I was saved when I knew Him. I was gifted with some kind of Holy Spirit.

I don't know. I didn't believe this one women that said. NO Animals or babies go to heaven. I don't believe in that. IS she right?

We have to go with what we know. Meaning what God has revealed in His Holy Scriptures and also how He has dealt with us in our walk with Him as the Good Shepherd; as His sheep we hear His voice and follow Him.

So what do we know from Holy Scriptures. We have an Awesome Lord and Savior. He is Merciful, Longsuffering, Patient, Kind, Loving; He is Judge and Law Giver. We also know from our walk with Him all the aforementioned attributes are faithful and true.

In conclusion, I fully trust my Great God with the babies who die. He is a Just God.
 
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Babies are with JESUS :oldthumbsup:

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That's a keeper! God Bless!
 
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I like that.

Here is an icon (they are tools meant to teach spiritual realities, among other things) of Christ, with those who died as babies. This should give some clues about what we believe about babies who die or are killed.

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That too is a keeper. Thanks! God Bless!
 
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But what about those whose bodies have been incinerated and their ashes were cast away at sea? How will they hear? What about those corpses whose inner ears (to hear) have decayed away?
So, Jesus was lying?
John 5:28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The angel was lying to Daniel?

Dan 12:2-3 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

David was confused?

Ps 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

Job was wrong?

Job 19:25-27 "As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth. 26 "Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God; 27 Whom I myself shall behold, And whom my eyes will see and not another. My heart faints within me!

Paul didn't know what he was talking about?

1 Cor 15:20-23 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. 21 For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming

1 Cor 15:51-53 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.


Sorry, I believe all of them.

Jason0047 said:
Jesus told the thief on the cross that He would be with him that day in Paradise.
No, Jesus told the thief that day, he would be with him in Paradise. Jesus then went to hell, for the next 3 days;
Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Jason0047 said:
Jesus told us about a narrative of what happens when a person dies. Jesus describes a place like hell and He briefly mentions a good place (Abraham's bosom) where the saints go.
No. Jesus told a PARABLE, about the gospel being taken from the nation of Israel, and given to the Gentiles.
Jason0047 said:
Jesus is in the heart of the Earth for 3 days and 3 nights. This cannot be the grave because Jesus was not buried deep beneath the Earth or in some kind of deep sink hole. Jesus was literally in the center of the Earth. He was in the spiritual realm within the heart of the Earth.
Hogwash. There is no "spiritual realm within the heart of the Earth", that's pagan nonsense. The phrase "heart of the Earth" is synonymous with "grave".

Jason0047 said:
Jesus spoke to the spirits in prison (Which was no doubt in the heart of the Earth).
Not according to Jesus;
Luke 4:16-21 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.


Jesus, BY THE SPIRIT, preached to those in prision (the captives).

Jason0047 said:
After the Pre-Trib Rapture:
The saints who are martyred for Jesus during the Tribulation by the anti-christ cry out to God for vengeance under God's alter up in Heaven. This is the breaking of the 5th seal.
There is no "Pre-Trib Rapture". NO ONE is raised from the dead to immortality until Jesus returns to the earth forever, and there are only 2 resurrections, the righteous "at his coming", and the wicked plus all that die DURING the 1,000 year reign on the earth at the end of the 1,000 years (Rev 20)

Jason0047 said:
When Christ returns, we then see saints follow Jesus into the battle of Armageddon.
Hey! We agree on this one!! :cool:
Jason0047 said:
As for John 5:28-29:
The way I understand this passage is that when it comes time for the new physical body to be resurrected, it will come forth as a part of the resurrection and have ears to hear. It does not suggest that the soul or the spirit is resting with the body or ashes that are scattered across the entire sea.
The entire person is in the grave. Their breath is gone, they aren't thinking, they have "returned to dust" exactly like Jehovah/YHVH God said (Gen 3:19).
You are attempting to read pagan theories into Christ's clear simple statement.

Jason0047 said:
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7).
Exactly! And what God gave is BREATH! (Gen 2:7)

Jason0047 said:
Paul says, for me to live is Christ, and to die is gain (Philippians 1:21).
It does not really sound like one is gaining anything if one is taking a dirt nap.
You are ignoring Paul's repeated teaching of the RESURRECTION!!! In sleep there is NO knowledge of time! Paul's next waking thought will be as a resurrected, immortal being!

Jason0047 said:
James says, the body without the spirit is dead (James 2:26). So obviously the spirit is not with the body when it is dead; Otherwise, James would be lying (and that is not possible).


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Again! Spirit=breath in this context, and MANY others.
 
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So, Jesus was lying?
John 5:28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The angel was lying to Daniel?

Dan 12:2-3 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

David was confused?

Ps 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

Job was wrong?

Job 19:25-27 "As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth. 26 "Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God; 27 Whom I myself shall behold, And whom my eyes will see and not another. My heart faints within me!

Paul didn't know what he was talking about?

1 Cor 15:20-23 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. 21 For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming

1 Cor 15:51-53 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.


Sorry, I believe all of them.

No, Jesus told the thief that day, he would be with him in Paradise. Jesus then went to hell, for the next 3 days;
Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

No. Jesus told a PARABLE, about the gospel being taken from the nation of Israel, and given to the Gentiles.
Hogwash. There is no "spiritual realm within the heart of the Earth", that's pagan nonsense. The phrase "heart of the Earth" is synonymous with "grave".

Not according to Jesus;
Luke 4:16-21 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.


Jesus, BY THE SPIRIT, preached to those in prision (the captives).

There is no "Pre-Trib Rapture". NO ONE is raised from the dead to immortality until Jesus returns to the earth forever, and there are only 2 resurrections, the righteous "at his coming", and the wicked plus all that die DURING the 1,000 year reign on the earth at the end of the 1,000 years (Rev 20)

Hey! We agree on this one!! :cool:
The entire person is in the grave. Their breath is gone, they aren't thinking, they have "returned to dust" exactly like Jehovah/YHVH God said (Gen 3:19).
You are attempting to read pagan theories into Christ's clear simple statement.

Exactly! And what God gave is BREATH! (Gen 2:7)

You are ignoring Paul's repeated teaching of the RESURRECTION!!! In sleep there is NO knowledge of time! Paul's next waking thought will be as a resurrected, immortal being!

Again! Spirit=breath in this context, and MANY others.
Totally off topic.
 
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Babies are with JESUS :oldthumbsup:

It is comforting thought because we could not reasonably explain it any other way while somehow holding up image of loving God.

Of course if it is true then why would any Christian let their children have a chance to possibly fall from Grace instead of granting them guaranteed eternal life immediately by aborting them.

Only way to avoid total inconsistency in this case is just to admit we don't know.
 
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Not according to Peter.

Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens:


You see, David NEVER did end up in heaven.
In fact, the ONLY human that EVER ended up in God's presence is Jesus (John 3:13 .. and NO man hath ascended up to heaven, except the son of man, which is in heaven.)

It may be that you and I have different interpretations of these passages. The following article was helpful for me in understanding John 3:13:

Does John 3:13 mean that no one went to Heaven before Jesus?

My understanding of the Acts reference to David was with regard to his earthly body, though his soul returned to God.
 
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I don't know where to post this question. So, staff members, I need some guidance for this post so I post it here.

But where does babies go after death? They say in some cases they go to hell, or they go to heaven.

They also say babies don't know God when they are made. But I for one knew God as He was making me. When I was born. So, I believe that I was saved when I knew Him. I was gifted with some kind of Holy Spirit.

I don't know. I didn't believe this one women that said. NO Animals or babies go to heaven. I don't believe in that. IS she right?

If they are the elect of God, saved by His grace alone, they go to Heaven.
If they are not, God justly sends them to Hell.
The rules of salvation do not change depending on the age of the individual or emotional connection.

All mankind is born into a sinful nature. God also has the sovereign right to do with His creation as He sees fit according the counsel of His autonomous free will. God's grace is also much bigger than we can ever imagine.

This is not to minimize the pain of losing a child, but also to not give a false hope that all babies go to Heaven simply because they are babies. There is not a single verse in the Bible that would support that notion that babies automatically go to Heaven, just because they are babies. God's truth is not based in emotions or feelings, but in His unchanging steadfast truth. Additionally, there is no age of accountability in the Bible.

We don't know the identity of the elect. God does not reveal that to us.

No one is a Christian from birth. Jesus said you must be born again.
 
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It may be that you and I have different interpretations of these passages.
Yessir, I think you are right! :cool:
Robert76 said:
The following article was helpful for me in understanding John 3:13:

Does John 3:13 mean that no one went to Heaven before Jesus?
The author of that article has "a different interpretation" of the passage than I do. The author is frantically attempting to overlook the obvious meaning of Jesus' words, AND the rest of Scripture.
Jehovah plainly stated; YOU are dust, and to dust YOU will return. (Gen 3:19)
The Scriptures plainly state, the dead are not alive; Isa 38:1 ... Thus saith Jehovah, Set thy house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live.
Robert76 said:
My understanding of the Acts reference to David was with regard to his earthly body, though his soul returned to God.
That's not what the text says..... so a wonderful question is .... WHY??
Why do you inject this notion??
Satan is the origin of the notion that the dead aren't really dead; Gen 3:4 ... "thou shalt NOT surely die".
And, this doctrine is the core belief of all pagan teachings.
By contrast, the Scriptures teach dead=not live
Revelation 20:5
The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection.
 
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I don't know where to post this question. So, staff members, I need some guidance for this post so I post it here.

But where does babies go after death? They say in some cases they go to hell, or they go to heaven.

They also say babies don't know God when they are made. But I for one knew God as He was making me. When I was born. So, I believe that I was saved when I knew Him. I was gifted with some kind of Holy Spirit.

I don't know. I didn't believe this one women that said. NO Animals or babies go to heaven. I don't believe in that. IS she right?

IDK what to say about you knowing God when he was making you... the bible mentions one person who had such an experience though but just one really...John. Now you could argue two in JESUS but I mean one just flat out Man or human like you or me so John would be a good example. But anyway the bible indicates if anyone dies before the age of reason or ability to choose before right or wrong...they are fine, or they go with the lord and eventually heaven.
 
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Babies, and ALL of God's creatures, return to dust. They are asleep in the dust. They are asleep in the graves.
All humans are waiting for one of two different resurrections. All people who die before Jesus returns, and who have been righteous, will be resurrected at his return to immortal life.
All people who die before Jesus returns, and are wicked, will be resurrected to judgment, confession, and destruction.
Bolded above: Not according to the apostle Paul. He explains such in 2 Corinthians 4 through 2 Corinthians 5.
 
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Not according to Peter.

Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens:


You see, David NEVER did end up in heaven.
In fact, the ONLY human that EVER ended up in God's presence is Jesus (John 3:13 .. and NO man hath ascended up to heaven, except the son of man, which is in heaven.)
Yes, David did not bodily resurrect and ascend into Heaven. That was Jesus Christ of course truly God and truly man. So the context is bodily resurrection. Notice Peter is presenting the Gospel of Christ crucified, died, buried, risen and ascended. He is not giving a dissertation on JW or SDA 'soul sleep.'

The passage is not even addressing the human soul...as in 'the inward man.'
 
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Dartman said:
Babies, and ALL of God's creatures, return to dust. They are asleep in the dust. They are asleep in the graves.
All humans are waiting for one of two different resurrections. All people who die before Jesus returns, and who have been righteous, will be resurrected at his return to immortal life.
All people who die before Jesus returns, and are wicked, will be resurrected to judgment, confession, and destruction.
Bolded above: Not according to the apostle Paul. He explains such in 2 Corinthians 4 through 2 Corinthians 5.
Not remotely. Paul doesn't contradict this Scriptural statement in any way.
 
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The fact that the Bible teaches the dead are actually dead, and "sleeping in the dust", is off topic??? How do you figure?
From the OP...
But where does babies go after death? They say in some cases they go to hell, or they go to heaven.

The OP's subject is 'babies' not all people. It appears to me, as it did others, that what they are asking is where babies will be for eternity, heaven or hell.
 
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Yes, David did not bodily resurrect and ascend into Heaven. That was Jesus Christ .. So the context is bodily resurrection.
There is no other kind of resurrection. The very definition of the word, along with EVERY Scripture on the subject proves this.
 
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From the OP...


The OP's subject is 'babies' not all people. It appears to me, as it did others, that what they are asking is where babies will be for eternity, heaven or hell.
Please show how babies are treated differently than ANY other human. When the OP specifically asks about death, the discussion of death is NOT off topic.
 
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Yessir, I think you are right! :cool:
The author of that article has "a different interpretation" of the passage than I do. The author is frantically attempting to overlook the obvious meaning of Jesus' words, AND the rest of Scripture.
Jehovah plainly stated; YOU are dust, and to dust YOU will return. (Gen 3:19)
The Scriptures plainly state, the dead are not alive; Isa 38:1 ... Thus saith Jehovah, Set thy house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live.
That's not what the text says..... so a wonderful question is .... WHY??
Why do you inject this notion??
Satan is the origin of the notion that the dead aren't really dead; Gen 3:4 ... "thou shalt NOT surely die".
And, this doctrine is the core belief of all pagan teachings.
By contrast, the Scriptures teach dead=not live
Revelation 20:5
The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection.

The basis for my belief is primarily on faith and the teaching by those whom I believe are men being used in a great way by God. When I hear teachings from John MacArthur, David Jeremiah, Billy Graham, Adrian Rogers, etc... these coincided that when we die, we go to be with the Lord. These are men that have spent their lives digging into God's word, applying it to their lives, and spreading God's word into the world. With that I cannot claim ownership of where we go when we die as being my injected notion, it is the belief of many great theologians and is supported by the Bible in numerous places, one of which we see in Philippians 1:23 (ESV):

"I am hard pressed between the two. My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better."

2 Corinthians 5:8 (ESV) goes on to say:

"Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

Now we can quote scriptures all day to each other, but it is not my desire to prove myself right here. You are my brother in the faith and the matter of what happens when we die is a tertiary issue. If we can agree in Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." then we can both have the assurance that we will both be saved, we will both be in the presence of Jesus, and we will worship Him in His glory for all eternity.
 
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At what age do babies lose this ability to go to heaven without judgement?

So many on here are saying that the little children go straight to heaven. When does it not happen? Most children will start lying from not long after they start to talk, no one needs to teach them this. They will also be naughty and steal things. So at what point do they become accountable for this? When do they not get away with lying, stealing, etc any longer?
 
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