claninja
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Hi Marilyn, Thank you for the clarification.
I absolutely agree with you, the church is the body of Christ. And yes, Christ reconciled both Jew and Gentile making these two, one new man by abolishing the law of commands in ordinances via the cross. Ephesians 2:22-18.
I agree with you for the most part, but you are leaving out the context of the passage: marriage, which is what Ephesians 5:22-33 is about. "28so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife — himself he doth love; 29for no one ever his own flesh did hate, but doth nourish and cherish it, as also the Lord"
In this context he is referring to marriage, the oneness between husband and wife, not Jew and Gentile. It is in this passage where Paul makes the comparison of Christ loving his own body (church) as a husband loves his wife like his own body.
Again, this is symbolism. Are we to assume a woman becomes a man according to Ephesians 2:15? No, of course not. These are illustrations, earthly examples, that symbolize the body of believer's relationship with Christ.
Paul is using earthly examples to illustrate the church's relationship with Christ. Paul states a great mystery here. Why did God give us marriage? It is symbol of the relationship of Christ and the Church.
Ephesians 5:32-32 ‘for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined to his wife, and they shall be — the two — for one flesh;’ 32this secret is great, and I speak in regard to Christ and to the assembly;
The great secret is that the husband and wife becoming one flesh, is representation of Christ and the church. To say it is not, is to deny what Paul clearly says. I will also pray that you look at this carefully.
Hi claninja,
There it is for you, `Christ and the church`, the called out ones, the Body of Christ, the new man being brought to a perfect man. (Eph. 1: 23, 2: 15, 4: 13)
I absolutely agree with you, the church is the body of Christ. And yes, Christ reconciled both Jew and Gentile making these two, one new man by abolishing the law of commands in ordinances via the cross. Ephesians 2:22-18.
The focus is on love, unity, oneness.
`No one ever hated his own flesh, (body) but nourishes it and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, (His body, the new man, to a perfect man). (Eph. 5: 29)
I agree with you for the most part, but you are leaving out the context of the passage: marriage, which is what Ephesians 5:22-33 is about. "28so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife — himself he doth love; 29for no one ever his own flesh did hate, but doth nourish and cherish it, as also the Lord"
In this context he is referring to marriage, the oneness between husband and wife, not Jew and Gentile. It is in this passage where Paul makes the comparison of Christ loving his own body (church) as a husband loves his wife like his own body.
Can you see yourself saying to an unsaved man - `Come to Jesus and be His bride.` Of course not. But if that is what is taught then in fact that is what they`ll eventually be told to believe.
Again, this is symbolism. Are we to assume a woman becomes a man according to Ephesians 2:15? No, of course not. These are illustrations, earthly examples, that symbolize the body of believer's relationship with Christ.
Note the Lord said there as no marriages in heaven. It is an earthly relationship of people. Christ and His Body is the closest relationship you can have. I pray you will look carefully onto it, for it leads to what we believe our inheritance is.
Paul is using earthly examples to illustrate the church's relationship with Christ. Paul states a great mystery here. Why did God give us marriage? It is symbol of the relationship of Christ and the Church.
Ephesians 5:32-32 ‘for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined to his wife, and they shall be — the two — for one flesh;’ 32this secret is great, and I speak in regard to Christ and to the assembly;
The great secret is that the husband and wife becoming one flesh, is representation of Christ and the church. To say it is not, is to deny what Paul clearly says. I will also pray that you look at this carefully.
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