Jeremiah 29:11 question

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“For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Is this applicable to us as individuals? If so, how? If not, why not?
It certainly can when it is spoken to your heart by the Holy Spirit.
In its written context it speaks of another situation.
 
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No, it doesn't. It was for a specific people at a specific time. If that verse can be applied to you, then so can the rest.

All of scripture has application to all believers; however, all scripture doe not have DIRECT application to all believers.

We look at how God did not forget them while they were in exile, and we see His faithfulness to His people in spite of their unfaithfulness to Him. We see that although he harshly disciplines them, He does so because He loves them. We also see that sin has consequences. God just didn't wink at their unfaithfulness.

There are many lessons for us as Christians in their story, but there are zero, DIRECT applications to us, corporately or individually. God did not speak those words to us, any more than he told me that I would be a father at 100 years old when I read Genesis 17.
 
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Let's not forget that Jer. 29:11 is part of the passage that also includes Jer. 29:4, which says:

"Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, to all who were carried away captive, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem to Babylon:"
I like this ..I love the multiplicity of the word word of God.
For this also speaks figuratively of those who are backslidden through thier own wickedness are carried off from Jerusalem to Babylon..into the captivity of sin and there humbeld
 
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It can be personally applied though if God still thinks thoughts of peace towards us and offers an expected end
But then you are back to using the whole passage. If what you are saying is true, then every time "you" is used, you'll be able to make application.
 
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All of scripture has application to all believers; however, all scripture doe not have DIRECT application to all believers.

We look at how God did not forget them while they were in exile, and we see His faithfulness to His people in spite of their unfaithfulness to Him. We see that although he harshly disciplines them, He does so because He loves them. We also see that sin has consequences. God just didn't wink at their unfaithfulness.

There are many lessons for us as Christians in their story, but there are zero, DIRECT applications to us, corporately or individually. God did not speak those words to us, any more than he told me that I would be a father at 100 years old when I read Genesis 17.
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It certainly can when it is spoken to your heart by the Holy Spirit.
In its written context it speaks of another situation.
So if it doesn't speak to my heart, it's not true?
 
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“For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Is this applicable to us as individuals? If so, how? If not, why not?
If it is, it needs to be read with ackowledgment of verses that talk about carrying our own cross and times of trial and persecution
 
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“For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Is this applicable to us as individuals? If so, how? If not, why not?
This passage was from a letter supposed to have been sent by Jeremiah to the Jewish exiles living in Babylon. Jeremiah recommended they should seek to form families and become established in their new homeland. Jeremiah stated the Lord called him to not marry (Jeremiah 16:1-4). God has unique plans for individuals and general teachings that apply to many.

If you want to live a fruitful life, consider Jesus' teaching from John 15:4 (WEB) Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can't bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me.
 
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I say we can learn something from any promise, and then apply that lesson to our lives.

What does the below text mean to you, directly?

Genesis 17:1-2

Abraham and the Covenant of Circumcision

When Abram was ninety-nine years old the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless, that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly.” (ESV)
 
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“For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Is this applicable to us as individuals? If so, how? If not, why not?

Absolutely applicable...if we believe it to be so.

He also has promised them a future with hope. That will not be realized until Heaven though.

Our future and hope lay in the life to come, not in this life.

Eternal definition: lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning.
So many perceive this word to mean after physical death...

He can only give us what we hope for...

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
 
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Absolutely applicable...if we believe it to be so.
So it's not applicable if we don't believe it? Why would my unbelief exclude me from the "you" group?
 
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“For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Is this applicable to us as individuals? If so, how? If not, why not?

it is always applicable to people and souls in general, because the true God is the system Administrator/Provider of life and His will is that all humans and other souls be provided with abundant and eternal life

John 12:49-50 "For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me."

Blessings
 
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What does the below text mean to you, directly?

Genesis 17:1-2

Abraham and the Covenant of Circumcision

When Abram was ninety-nine years old the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless, that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly.” (ESV)
Why do you try to trick me with words? I answered your direct question Here

If we walk with God, His blessing will be ours. Are you walking with Him? Are you fully surrendered? What are your intentions?
 
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But then you are back to using the whole passage. If what you are saying is true, then every time "you" is used, you'll be able to make application.
You can't quote the whole passage. I mean if you have a memory that good I'm impressed.
 
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“For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Is this applicable to us as individuals? If so, how? If not, why not?

This was for the Israelites of the time period. However, God is sovereign over all things, and His divine will is carried out.
 
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So it's not applicable if we don't believe it? Why would my unbelief exclude me from the "you" group?

He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him...and promises blessing not curses to those who obey/have faith...there is also a reward for those who are not seeking/belivieving...calamity.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Deut. 28:2 And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God.

Deut 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

Malachi 2:2 "If you do not listen, and if you do not take it to heart to give honor to My name," says the LORD of hosts, "then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings; and indeed, I have cursed them already, because you are not taking it to heart.
 
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He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him...and promises blessing not curses to those who obey/have faith...there is also a reward for those who are not seeking/belivieving...calamity.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Deut. 28:2 And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God.

Deut 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

Malachi 2:2 "If you do not listen, and if you do not take it to heart to give honor to My name," says the LORD of hosts, "then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings; and indeed, I have cursed them already, because you are not taking it to heart.
That didn't answer the question. Where is belief a requirement in the verse in question?
 
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