Who else is a Bible-believing Democratic voter?

[Evan Jellicoe]

I’d like to find more connections to people and organizations that stand on the essentials (or, fundamentals) of the Christian faith (the Bible is true; Jesus is the divine Son of God; He really did die on the cross and literally rise again; salvation is by faith in Christ alone. . .and so on), while supporting the Democratic party platform. I voted Republican every year since 1972, until 2016 arrived and I changed my mind about which party is closer to (or perhaps just not as far away from) a Biblical position. I have a lot to say, but first I just want to ask. . .Who is with me on this forum?



Evan Jellicoe

 

[faroukfarouk]

Nit sure I can help you; I'm Canadian (happy July 4, by the way!); and in any case I do think that it's the local church that is the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3.15) rather than earthly institutions which may at any time be made up of a combination of unbelievers (often predominating) and believers.

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

Nit sure I can help you; I'm Canadian (happy July 4, by the way!); and in any case I do think that it's the local church that is the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3.15) rather than earthly institutions which may at any time be made up of a combination of unbelievers (often predominating) and believers.

Well, there are Christian organizations that are not churches per se but their membership is restricted to believers.
Have you heard of any prominent Bible-believing pastors (or even non-prominent ones) who are willing to say publically that they voted Democratic?
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[Strathos]

I’d like to find more connections to people and organizations that stand on the essentials (or, fundamentals) of the Christian faith (the Bible is true; Jesus is the divine Son of God; He really did die on the cross and literally rise again; salvation is by faith in Christ alone. . .and so on), while supporting the Democratic party platform.

Me.

IMO the GOP has been using Christianity as a gimmick while not respecting most of what Jesus actually taught. The right wing in America today follows Ayn Rand more than Jesus Christ.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Well, there are Christian organizations that are not churches per se but their membership is restricted to believers.
Have you heard of any prominent Bible-believing pastors (or even non-prominent ones) who are willing to say publically that they voted Democratic?
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No; but I'm not in the US...

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

Me.

IMO the GOP has been using Christianity as a gimmick while not respecting most of what Jesus actually taught. The right wing in America today follows Ayn Rand more than Jesus Christ.

That's a big part of my reasoning. Republicans by and large seem to look upon Christians as what Vladimir Lenin called "useful idiots." They (Republicans) say that they are anti-abortion, and that turns out to be all they have to do. In many cases they personally don't even care about the abortion issue, but if that's what they need to say to win all those Evangelical voters, then they do it. Meanwhile they do what really matters to them, which generally involves cutting taxes on the rich while reducing services to the poor.
Oh, and I finally got around to reading Atlas Shrugged a few months ago. As fiction, it's interesting, but as a political manifesto it is positively frightening.
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[Roseonathorn]

What people believe and how they would vote are two different matters. They might believe in the bible and democracy but still not like the Person that runs for the democrats because He or She has a very unbiblical view on a specific topic, ex. abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, divorce, protecting authorithies that does wrong decisions or give wrong treatment so people suffer or die. Is that what You intend to change? Are we to support a godly democracy candidate here? If I were an American I would vote for You.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Republicans might look at Christians as useful idiots, but Democrats openly mock the Lord. A few years ago at the DNC God was booed more than once. I do not hold allegiance to any party or political ideology, but to even pretend Democrats are on the "righteous" side is a laugh of historic proportions. The one thing Republicans have is they do not advocate for abortion. That issue alone should be more than enough for any "Bible believing" person to vote Republican or at very least Independent. How can you say you believe in the Word of God and allow the murder of the unborn?

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

Republicans might look at Christians as useful idiots, but Democrats openly mock the Lord. A few years ago at the DNC God was booed more than once. I do not hold allegiance to any party or political ideology, but to even pretend Democrats are on the "righteous" side is a laugh of historic proportions. The one thing Republicans have is they do not advocate for abortion. That issue alone should be more than enough for any "Bible believing" person to vote Republican or at very least Independent. How can you say you believe in the Word of God and allow the murder of the unborn?

It would take longer to explain than I have time to spend or room to write just now. That's why I am planning to write a book to answer exactly the questions that you pose. From the Bible, not human reasoning.
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[jimmyjimmy]

Who else is a Bible-believing Democratic voter?

How much of the Bible are we talking about?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Republicans might look at Christians as useful idiots, but Democrats openly mock the Lord. A few years ago at the DNC God was booed more than once. I do not hold allegiance to any party or political ideology, but to even pretend Democrats are on the "righteous" side is a laugh of historic proportions. The one thing Republicans have is they do not advocate for abortion. That issue alone should be more than enough for any "Bible believing" person to vote Republican or at very least Independent. How can you say you believe in the Word of God and allow the murder of the unborn?

You've nailed the main points. Well said.

 

[GUANO]

Democracy is the most "Satanic" form of government there could ever possibly be. Invented by a country that is often associated directly with the Devil (in the Bible itself). Our country was founded by "Christians" who believe that Jesus and Lucifer are the same being and our state image is that of Libertas/Prometheus and all of our buildings pay homage to a pagan mystery religion. The design of our Capital city, the streets, and the buildings themselves are designed after Rosicrucian "Enochian" Magick that they themselves claim comes from the fallen angels and the spirits of the Nephilim.

I claim citizenship of a Kingdom that is not of this world, ruled by the Son of God. Satan rules the earth and the 'powers of the air (aer)', and the powers of the aer are the DIRECT rulers in democracy.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

It would take longer to explain than I have time to spend or room to write just now. That's why I am planning to write a book to answer exactly the questions that you pose. From the Bible, not human reasoning.
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Should be interesting

 

[Tigger45]

I consider myself a traditional Christian and don't vote party lines but by the particular candidate themselves.

 

[GUANO]

I’d like to find more connections to people and organizations that stand on the essentials (or, fundamentals) of the Christian faith (the Bible is true; Jesus is the divine Son of God; He really did die on the cross and literally rise again; salvation is by faith in Christ alone. . .and so on), while supporting the Democratic party platform. I voted Republican every year since 1972, until 2016 arrived and I changed my mind about which party is closer to (or perhaps just not as far away from) a Biblical position. I have a lot to say, but first I just want to ask. . .Who is with me on this forum?

Evan Jellicoe

It's terrifying to me that anyone who understands the 'fundamentals' of Christianity would push to support a political party that is mostly communist atheists—ideals that are responsible for the most human deaths ever recorded in history. But hey, if you want to speed up time so to speak, bring the end sooner, by all means

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Who is with me on this forum?

I was with you right up until I read your thread title.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Republicans might look at Christians as useful idiots, but Democrats openly mock the Lord. A few years ago at the DNC God was booed more than once. I do not hold allegiance to any party or political ideology, but to even pretend Democrats are on the "righteous" side is a laugh of historic proportions. The one thing Republicans have is they do not advocate for abortion. That issue alone should be more than enough for any "Bible believing" person to vote Republican or at very least Independent. How can you say you believe in the Word of God and allow the murder of the unborn?

I was raised Democrat and finally when I was about 30 I broke from them and reluctantly became a Republican. The issue was abortion, specifically the Democratic party wanting to block out pro-life people at local and state levels. They blocked me out eventually of everything but precinct caucuses. So I switched. Became a Republican. An active one in state politics. Was a delegate at the last state convention. And was moderately frustrated all along that they talked some really good talk but never did much about it. Note that it's five months now and Planned Parenthood still has funding.

So I voted for a lot of Republican candidates for president up to this election. I couldn't do it for Trump. He's beyond the pale. But Hillary was worse, if such is possible. So I voted for Evan McMullen. He was at least sane and had clean hands, in addition to some real foreign policy experience. But he never had a chance. OK, he had an interesting very slim chance if only some unlikely things all happened right. Which they didn't.

Now I'm looking at the American Solidarity Party. With the Democrats in shambles, and clueless about it to boot, and the Republicans now the 'Party of Trump' it is an excellent time to look at new parties that actually meet the needs of this country. I could go on and on about the failure of the Democrats, and of the mediocrity of the Republicans, or the other way around. Point is, we have a historical moment where we could have a new party or two push out the old hat parties. You do not have to be stuck with one or the other any more.

 

[camille70]

Republicans might look at Christians as useful idiots, but Democrats openly mock the Lord. A few years ago at the DNC God was booed more than once. I do not hold allegiance to any party or political ideology, but to even pretend Democrats are on the "righteous" side is a laugh of historic proportions. The one thing Republicans have is they do not advocate for abortion. That issue alone should be more than enough for any "Bible believing" person to vote Republican or at very least Independent. How can you say you believe in the Word of God and allow the murder of the unborn?

This is the problem with the rhetoric coming from the right. They are equating voting democrat or republican with being for or against God, almost to the point of having or not having salvation being based on how you cast your ballot.

There is a lack of respect for God on the left, IMO. I sometimes have to take breaks from liberal spaces due to this. However, I realize that these are vocal individuals and not the party itself, and mostly what is being voiced is not so much as a lack of respect for God, but for God's people, who are hypocrites. You also have a large voting block who are gay, who instead of being told that God loves them, getting them in the church and allowing God to change them if He sees fit to do so, are being told they are not welcome in the church, that "God hates [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]" etc. They have often had God used as a weapon against them, and are not receptive to hearing about Him.

Aside from abortion and marriage equality, practically nothing else on the right is in line with biblical principles. And I'm not sure there is firm standing for those issues. If someone caused a woman to miscarry before a child could live outside the womb, it was a fine in the bible, not an eye for eye type sin. As has been pointed out so many times regarding Trump now that excuses are being made for his behavior, we elected a president not a pastor. The president is not president of ONLY Christians, or ONLY xyz, he is the president of ALL Americans, INCLUDING non-Christian Americans. The bible doesn't advocate holding non-Christians to Christian standards. The constitution does not give or deny rights based on religion. Although we see marriage as a covenant, and a joining by God, that is not the case everywhere, and religious freedom indicates that marriage equality should exist, regardless of whether or not the couple is Christian, another religion, or subscribe to no religion at all.

 

[camille70]

I was raised Democrat and finally when I was about 30 I broke from them and reluctantly became a Republican. The issue was abortion, specifically the Democratic party wanting to block out pro-life people at local and state levels. They blocked me out eventually of everything but precinct caucuses. So I switched. Became a Republican. An active one in state politics. Was a delegate at the last state convention. And was moderately frustrated all along that they talked some really good talk but never did much about it. Note that it's five months now and Planned Parenthood still has funding.

So I voted for a lot of Republican candidates for president up to this election. I couldn't do it for Trump. He's beyond the pale. But Hillary was worse, if such is possible. So I voted for Evan McMullen. He was at least sane and had clean hands, in addition to some real foreign policy experience. But he never had a chance. OK, he had an interesting very slim chance if only some unlikely things all happened right. Which they didn't.

Now I'm looking at the American Solidarity Party. With the Democrats in shambles, and clueless about it to boot, and the Republicans now the 'Party of Trump' it is an excellent time to look at new parties that actually meet the needs of this country. I could go on and on about the failure of the Democrats, and of the mediocrity of the Republicans, or the other way around. Point is, we have a historical moment where we could have a new party or two push out the old hat parties. You do not have to be stuck with one or the other any more.

I liked Evan, he had some local issues that were a bit of baggage for him, but he was essentially sane, willing to listen, learn, admit mistakes. The problem I have with voting 3rd party is that only one of two people were going to win, and Trump was such a danger, IMO that any vote not going for Hillary, made it possible to put someone dangerous in charge of our country, which is exactly what happened. He is unstable beyond belief.

 

[Allandavid]

Republicans might look at Christians as useful idiots, but Democrats openly mock the Lord. A few years ago at the DNC God was booed more than once. I do not hold allegiance to any party or political ideology, but to even pretend Democrats are on the "righteous" side is a laugh of historic proportions. The one thing Republicans have is they do not advocate for abortion. That issue alone should be more than enough for any "Bible believing" person to vote Republican or at very least Independent. How can you say you believe in the Word of God and allow the murder of the unborn?

The Bible says nothing about abortion...except one or two brief passages where it endorses it...