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Yes, evasion is a good word for your response to the question of just what do you/your church do with all the other biblical abominations...pretend they aren't there, mark them out, denial, explain that things mean something else? Remember that? I'm honestly curious how one worships God and throws part of his word out or whatever you do with that and parts like it?

That was great. :)

I answered your question fully...see? just because you didn't like the answer, or because you need a way to turn the blame on me due to your inability to to produce backing for your claim, doesn't mean I didn't.

What part am I throwing out, please?
 
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But if you think we cannot judge period then your verses are going to contradict everything and you cannot live that out and are going to prove yourself to be a hypocrite by engaging in judging while you said we cannot do.

If we cannot judge I do not want to see you back slide and be a hypocrite if that is your stance.

We cannot Judge Sin in other people. Sin is disobedience to God, or knowing what is right, and doing wrong anyway. We cannot Judge Sin in other people's lives or say "They are sinning" when maybe they are not. Only God knows what is sin and judges it.

There is secular judging which attempts to limit itself to actions and leave out motivations. But even secular justice attempts to account for motivations and excuses people not competent for whatever reasons.
 
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Then you yourself need to stop being a hypocrite and stop judging my answers and start calling for judges on this Earth to stop judging criminals.

When I say I believe in something I live it out

You cannot LIVE OUT not judging because you HAVE to make judgements in life and you have made judgements on me multiple times already proving you cannot live that out and proving you do not even obey what you claim we cannot do.

Jesus criticized the crowd for wanting to stone the prostitute, but Jesus knew her heart and told them they were not qualified to judge her actions. Sin is an issue between a person and God.
 
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So I find it very funny how you are asking me the VERY THING those people asked Jesus, you are asking me why Moses let people divorce and that is the EXACT SAME THING they asked Jesus!!!

If you got a problem with my answer then you are calling Jesus wrong not me, because JESUS just answered those people the same way to the exact same question in the same exact way I just answered you.

Now I would love to see you call Jesus a liar and say he lied to those people.

So did Jesus tell them the truth or was Jesus lying when he answered them?

Your question is LITERALLY the same as the Pharisees

And I gave you the exact same answer that Jesus gave to that question

So if you call me wrong you are calling JESUS wrong and a liar.

Go take it up with Jesus then.


And Jesus responded that Man must have secular rules to live by becasue everyone is unable to live up to God's high standards of just one mate per person for life. Plus, not all mates live that long, thanks to Sin.
 
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If you feel you are qualified to judge sin, then you are mistaken.
You can rape and murder, knowing you are sinning or you may do it in ignorance of the law.

Death only follows knowledge of the law though.
The ignorant are not guilty of sin.
I agree on the part that people who are ignorant are not guilty of sin, but it depends what you mean by that. For example: If a kid says a curse word to his parents and does not know what he is doing but just following what someone else did, then obviously God would not hold someone accountable for something they did not was wrong.

So yes, I agree in those cases that God doesn't hold certain people accountable, like God isn't going to hold a mentally insane person who has some mental illness accountable if they don't know what they are doing.

But for majority of people, they do know right from wrong, I haven't met anyone that didn't know raping someone was wrong or that stealing from someone was wrong. Everyone I have met already knows this and in the bible if I remember correctly it states that the law is written upon their hearts, which is logical because when it comes to most cases I can clearly see most people unless they are mentally insane or a young kid, know what they are doing is good or bad.

So I agree that someone could technically sin and not be accountable for it if they didn't know what they were doing or that it was wrong, but that only applies to a limited amount of cases and not the average person.

Nobody who shoots up a school didn't know it was wrong (unless they had some mental problem), that is why they kill themselves after wards because they are full aware they have sinned/done wrong and they take their life to avoid the punishment from the law of the land.

So I agree that some people God will not hold accountable but I do not agree that I can go rape someone and it not be a sin, I already know its wrong and for 99% of the people on Earth they know its wrong too, unless they are so young they have no clue what they are doing or mentally insane and do not know.
 
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Jesus criticized the crowd for wanting to stone the prostitute, but Jesus knew her heart and told them they were not qualified to judge her actions. Sin is an issue between a person and God.
Well the law was she was to be stoned, Jesus did not say that it was unlawful, all he said was "He who is without sin cast the first stone" Jesus did not say "Nobody cannot dish out the law" so I would be careful with that, because all Jesus pointed out was that those people there were hypocrites and were living in sin and they shouldn't cast the first stone because those people knew they were sinning.

I don't mean they were sinning at that moment, I mean, I believe it is implying that the people left because they knew they had sinned yet are trying to put someone else to death under the law for their sin which is hypocritical.

I believe based on that, that it is lawful for someone in that culture to have dished out the law if they had too, but they themselves should not be living in sin if they are going to dish out the law because that would be hypocritical.

It would kind of be like a judge sentencing a murderer to prison yet that judge also murders people in secret.

I don't see where Jesus condemned or said the law was wrong, Jesus simply stated that the person who has not sinned should be the one to cast the first stone.

So I believe if there was someone there without sin they could have but because none was without sin none did.

Also nobody knows what Jesus wrote in the sand/dirt, at least from what I am aware of.
 
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In Christianity, "gay marriage" is an oxymoron. Homosexual relations are sin, but I would be very careful and prayerful about approaching that subject with him. My default position is to not be the "bad guy" yourself in any sort of a relationship with an unbeliever. When the relationship itself is illicit, that becomes harder.


As you pointed out, homosexual relations are the sin. Not attraction. Not every relationship is about physical relations. If I do get married someday I don't ever want children, but that doesn't mean that the love I feel for my husband would be any less valid.
 
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We cannot Judge Sin in other people. Sin is disobedience to God, or knowing what is right, and doing wrong anyway. We cannot Judge Sin in other people's lives or say "They are sinning" when maybe they are not. Only God knows what is sin and judges it.

There is secular judging which attempts to limit itself to actions and leave out motivations. But even secular justice attempts to account for motivations and excuses people not competent for whatever reasons.
If God declares it we can tell other people what God has already declared. If I see a thief breaking into someones house, that is sin, God declared it as sin in the bible therefor I can tell that thief it is sin and if they do not repent from it and trust in Christ they will be going to hell for it.

That is not me judging their sin or me condemning them, that is me simply repeating what GOD in the bible already said about sin and sinners.

It is like if you told me "Anyone who breaks into my home I hate" and I repeat it to someone who broke into your home, its not my words, I am repeating what you said.

God in the bible has sins listed as sins

If I catch someone in sin I am allowed to call them out on it because its GODS word about them.

If I catch someone in the act of sin are you saying I have to lie and pretend its not a sin? Because it surely is.

If I catch a school shooter am I suppose to pretend like I am not witnessing a person murdering people????

No, I am allowed to call it sin because GOD already declared murder as a sin.

I agree I cannot call someone out for sin if I have no proof of their sin or if God did not declare it as sin

But for most cases if someone reveals a truth about themselves to me, I am allowed to state the obvious

If someone walked up to me and said "Last night robbed a bank and it was wrong but I did it anyways"

I can judge that based on God already declared that someone who ROBS and STEALS are sinners on their way to hell if they do not repent and put their faith/trust in Christ.

I am not the one who called theirs sinners, God himself/Jesus is the one in the bible who calls it a sin, I am simply repeating what God/Jesus said and letting the person know and warning them it is a sin and they have sinned.

Not because I assumed they sinned, but because I either seen them do it in front of me or they TOLD me with their own lips.

It is no different then me telling someone they are breaking the law of the United States if I catch them in the act of a crime.

If someone is stealing from a house I have the right to tell them if I love them, "stealing is a crime in the United States and I caught you stealing from a house" that is punishable by going to prison or jail

That is no different than a sinner telling me their sin and me simply repeating what God says about their sin and where sinners who do not repent and trust in Christ go.

It is not me making the final judgement or condemning them, I am simply repeating what God already declared about their sin.

I have no power to cast anyone into hell or save anyone, I am simply a messenger that tells people to the best of my knowledge what the bible/God says.

I am not saying Christians can never be wrong, yes we can be wrong on topics but the difference is, we correct our selfs when we make a mistake and we are not infallible just because we obey or Trust in Christ.

Just because we believe in God and are saved doesn't mean we magically can never make a mistake or know all things.

When I am wrong about something I correct myself

But I see no problem with telling someone in sin who has admitted their sin or has been caught in it, the truth about theirs in, that is facts not opinions. When someone commits a sin and has been caught that is OBJECTIVE evidence of their sin, not an opinion.

When someone reveals to me their sin that is a OBJECTIVE evidence, not my opinion about them.

I never once told anyone they were living in sin without PROOF they were living in sin.

I would never go up to a stranger and say "You are sinning right now at this very moment" when there is no proof of it, there would have to be proof of it or they revealed it to me.

All I do is simply tell them what GOD says about their sin

It is no different than a police officer telling criminals the truth about their crimes and that the United States will punish them for it.
 
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As you pointed out, homosexual relations are the sin. Not attraction. Not every relationship is about physical relations. If I do get married someday I don't ever want children, but that doesn't mean that the love I feel for my husband would be any less valid.
Temptation is not a sin, most people have this confused, meaning the average person walking down the street.

I've had tons of people ask me "But I can't control a thought that pops into my head" "am I sinning?"

The bible makes it clear that being tempted is not a sin, Jesus was tempted and Jesus never once sinned, so being tempted is not a sin. Homosexuals are tempted to sin just like any other sinner, a former drunk may have temptations to go drinking, a former thief may have a temptation to steal, a fornicator might have temptation to fornicate.

Being tempted is not a sin, its what you do with your temptations.

God judges our thought life too and cares about what our thoughts are.

Jesus went even further and said "If someone looks at a a woman with lust he has already committed adultery with her in his heart"

That is logical, lust should be between your spouse, not random women or men.

Lets make a hypothetical situation

Lets pretend you got married one day, you have a husband.

Or lets say someone is married right now.

Their lust aka sexual desire, should be set on their wife/husband only

You should love them so much that you only lust for them

Jesus said if someone was to lust after a woman/man in their heart they have already committed adultery with that person in their heart.

Because if you are thinking about cheating on your wife/husband in your heart, you would more than likely actually do it if put in the situation since you are purposing in your heart to lust after someone else and not your wife/husband.

Us as Christians CAN control our thoughts.

We cannot control being tempted, even Jesus was tempted and he was God in the flesh.

But we can control what we do with our thought, we can choose to keep thinking of sexual images of someone or we can choose to reject the temptation.

I am not saying it is easy, I am saying it is possible for us to choose to reject it, whatever temptation we have.

Homosexuals are tempted to lust after men or women just like straight people are tempted to lust after women or men

The difference is, being tempted doesn't mean you HAVE to give in to it, and in the bible there are former homosexuals who used to be homosexual and lust after men/women and have given it up completely.

You can go on youtube right now and watch videos of EX-homosexuals who used to think they were 100% homosexual and would never be changed and Jesus Christ cleansed them and some of them even have kids and are married in a wife/husband relationship

It is not about the ability to stop sinning, we all have the ability to stop

It is about WILLINGNESS, most people are not willing to becasue they are tempted and give into their temptations instead of rejecting them.

My girlfriend doesn't want children, I am going to marry her some day, its not a sin for not wanting children or not being able to have them, there are some wives/husbands who CANNOT have children, that doesn't mean they cannot get married or are not married under God's eyes.

God definitely wanted humans to populate the Earth but that topic is more in depth then just that and I don't feel like getting into it because I have stuff to do.

But no where that I am aware of demands that each married couple produce kids or it is a sin, some married couples cannot even have kids even if they wanted to.

Sex is more than just to have kids, although that is one reason why we have it, not that it is the only reason or is the must, and it is clear that children are a blessing and God does want us to populate the Earth, but I wouldn't jump to a conclusion and automatically say its a sin to not have children.

What if you are so poor that if you had children they would die off and starve. I doubt God would want you to have children if you were so poor you could not afford to feed them.

So I would be careful if someone was to tell you not choosing to have children is a sin, other wise they are saying "Have kids even when you have no money to feed them and keep them alive" which is illogical.
 
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If God declares it we can tell other people what God has already declared.

Sin is a contract between one person and God.
What you are reading is insights into that
process. They apply to you and not others.
As you quoted, no man can correctly judge you.
 
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As you pointed out, homosexual relations are the sin.

You can't see Sin in other people. Only in your own life.
Some will say your not having children for whatever
reasons you have, is a Sin in your life. "She refuses
to have children, and that is a Sin!"

No, we can't see Sin in other peoples lives.
 
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If God declares it we can tell other people what God has already declared. If I see a thief breaking into someones house, that is sin, God declared it as sin in the bible therefor I can tell that thief it is sin and if they do not repent from it and trust in Christ they will be going to hell for it.

That is not me judging their sin or me condemning them, that is me simply repeating what GOD in the bible already said about sin and sinners.

It is like if you told me "Anyone who breaks into my home I hate" and I repeat it to someone who broke into your home, its not my words, I am repeating what you said.

God in the bible has sins listed as sins

If I catch someone in sin I am allowed to call them out on it because its GODS word about them.

If I catch someone in the act of sin are you saying I have to lie and pretend its not a sin? Because it surely is.

If I catch a school shooter am I suppose to pretend like I am not witnessing a person murdering people????

No, I am allowed to call it sin because GOD already declared murder as a sin.

I agree I cannot call someone out for sin if I have no proof of their sin or if God did not declare it as sin

But for most cases if someone reveals a truth about themselves to me, I am allowed to state the obvious

If someone walked up to me and said "Last night robbed a bank and it was wrong but I did it anyways"

I can judge that based on God already declared that someone who ROBS and STEALS are sinners on their way to hell if they do not repent and put their faith/trust in Christ.

I am not the one who called theirs sinners, God himself/Jesus is the one in the bible who calls it a sin, I am simply repeating what God/Jesus said and letting the person know and warning them it is a sin and they have sinned.

Not because I assumed they sinned, but because I either seen them do it in front of me or they TOLD me with their own lips.

It is no different then me telling someone they are breaking the law of the United States if I catch them in the act of a crime.

If someone is stealing from a house I have the right to tell them if I love them, "stealing is a crime in the United States and I caught you stealing from a house" that is punishable by going to prison or jail

That is no different than a sinner telling me their sin and me simply repeating what God says about their sin and where sinners who do not repent and trust in Christ go.

It is not me making the final judgement or condemning them, I am simply repeating what God already declared about their sin.

I have no power to cast anyone into hell or save anyone, I am simply a messenger that tells people to the best of my knowledge what the bible/God says.

I am not saying Christians can never be wrong, yes we can be wrong on topics but the difference is, we correct our selfs when we make a mistake and we are not infallible just because we obey or Trust in Christ.

Just because we believe in God and are saved doesn't mean we magically can never make a mistake or know all things.

When I am wrong about something I correct myself

But I see no problem with telling someone in sin who has admitted their sin or has been caught in it, the truth about theirs in, that is facts not opinions. When someone commits a sin and has been caught that is OBJECTIVE evidence of their sin, not an opinion.

When someone reveals to me their sin that is a OBJECTIVE evidence, not my opinion about them.

I never once told anyone they were living in sin without PROOF they were living in sin.

I would never go up to a stranger and say "You are sinning right now at this very moment" when there is no proof of it, there would have to be proof of it or they revealed it to me.

All I do is simply tell them what GOD says about their sin

It is no different than a police officer telling criminals the truth about their crimes and that the United States will punish them for it.


You said you would get back to scripture. Lying is a Sin.
You are Sinning. (I'm just making a point about others Judging Sin.)
 
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That was great. :)

I answered your question fully...see? just because you didn't like the answer, or because you need a way to turn the blame on me due to your inability to to produce backing for your claim, doesn't mean I didn't.

What part am I throwing out, please?
Your response to my question was "Show me"
 
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You can't see Sin in other people. Only in your own life.
Some will say your not having children for whatever
reasons you have, is a Sin in your life. "She refuses
to have children, and that is a Sin!"

No, we can't see Sin in other peoples lives.


I wonder why would people think not wanting to have children is a sin?
 
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You said you would get back to scripture. Lying is a Sin.
You are Sinning. (I'm just making a point about others Judging Sin.)
Hypocrite!!! Hypocrite!!! Thanks for showing us all what a hypocrite you are. You just did the very thing you said you cannot do hypocrite!!! You are full of hypocrisy

Thought we couldn't judge hypocrite??? Why did you just judge me hypocrite???? See, proves my point once again that you cannot escape making judgements hypocrite.

Hey hypocrite, you just said that you cannot see sin in other people so why are you being a hypocrite and just called me out for lying which is sin, I thought we couldn't see sin in other people hypocrite???

Hypocrite, Hypocrite, Hypocrite

You don't even believe in what you say because you are a hypocrite and do not even obey what you say you believe in.

I on the other hand am not a hypocrite, because unlike you, I live out what I believe.

I don't tell others not to do something and then go be a hypocrite and do the very same thing to someone I told hem not to do or they cannot do.

And hypocrite please quote me entirely, I clearly said hypocrite, that I would get back to the verses after you replied to my verses and did I put a time limit on it hypocrite? Where did I say I must immediately respond within the same day hypocrite??? You made that assumption hypocrite not me, you know some people cannot get on their phone or laptop all day.

So #1 I didn't lie hypocrite, I am still going to respond to them, and #2 I put a condition in order for me to respond to them and I never put a time limit and said "I will respond within 1 hour", I like to do my research on things before I give answers

Lets say you were correct and that I just sinned and lied.

IT WOULD ONLY PROVE YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!!!

#1 - You just judged hypocrite, I thought we couldn't judge hypocrite stop judging me (I don't have a problem with being judged because I'm not guilty, you are the one with the judging problem hypocrite and I can see why, you cannot stay consistent and live out what you believe, you keep back sliding and doing the very things you are telling us all we cannot do, what a hypocrite)

#2 - I thought we couldn't see sin in other people hypocrite so how did you see that sin hypocrite???

You are full of hypocrite its not even funny

Calling you out for being a hypocrite is not harassment, it is the facts.

A hypocrite is someone who does the very same thing they are telling others not to do or they cannot do, you have done the very things you said we cannot do.

Hypocrite

Jesus would have a field day with you

Thanks for proving my point that it is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid stating facts and making judgements, you prove it by being a hypocrite and following MY thought and NOT obeying your own belief, funny how you are arguing against me about it but yet you are only proving my thoughts to be correct beacuse you keep being a hypocrite and obeying what I believe to be true and are not obeying what you believe to be true which shows which is more logical and correct.

Guess what?

When I see someone in SIN I am going to call them out on it

Rape is a sin, murder is a sin, drunkeness is a sin

I am going to CALL THEM to repent and I WILL call them out on their sin

You can be cowardly and try to pretend like its not sin and your other hypocrite stuff you speak but that is illogical.

When a policeman sees a RAPIST raping a woman its a crime, its a SIN, they are going to be punished for their crimes and thrown in jail or prison

Keep being a hypocrite, it makes you look good.

Quoting so many verses is very useless when you keep being a hypocrite and do the very things you are saying we cannot do proving you do not even truly believe your own ideas.

If you believed it you wouldn't have been a hypocrite and just did the two things you said nobody could do.

I am not a hypocrite, I obey what I believe, I obey Jesus Christ, I keep Jesus Christ commandments, I am not out getting drunk, high, stealing, cursing, beating people up, having sex outside of marriage, am not convince, ect.

Its hard to believe anything you say when you yourself are a hypocrite and do not even obey the very two things you said we cannot do.

I do not want to hear a reply back for your hypocrisy, its so clear and you're not going to be able to go back in time and change your statements proving you to be a hypocrite.

I challenge ANYONE to point me out for being a hypocrite on anything I believe, when I believe something I do what I believe, I believe it is perfectly fine to judge and point out the OBVIOUS facts, one example is like you being a hypocrite, that is obvious so I am going to point it out.

When I tell someone they cannot do something I am not a hypocrite and then do the very same thing I tell someone else they cannot do or should not do

But thats what you are doing hypocrite

Stop being a hypocrite before you want to tell people like me I am wrong on something, it makes it hard to believe ina hypocrite that their ideas and answers are correct.

This is why non-believers have a hard time believing in people who believe in Christ because they go to churches and see people like you who are hypocrites and tell them they "cannot judge or see sin in people" yet you are a hypocrite and do the very same thing in front of them that you said you cannot do.

Don't try to say you didn't, I have the quote, you are a back sliding hypocrite who tells others what to do and you yourself do not even follow your own beliefs.

I actually OBEY what I believe and OBEY Jesus Christ and repented of my sins and hypocrisy years ago. I can point out the obvious facts because I am NO LONGER A HYPOCRITE like you obviously and clearly are.

So it does not matter if you listed 100 verses after this

You are a hypocrite and I don't take hypocrites seriously because they cannot even live out their own belief.

I take advice from people who are not hypocrites

Stop being a hypocrite and maybe I'll look further into what you have to say

You back slide on your position multiple times and cannot live it out

It distributors me to no end that you think we cannot point out OBVIOUS FACTS ABOUT SINNERS WHO ARE SINNING IN FRONT OF US

It doesn't get ANY MORE ILLOGICAL than that

To see a person with your very own eyes RAPING AND MURDERING YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS and all the evidence is in front of you and you think you cannot point out the obvious and make a judgment so say "What a wicked sinner"

You are deluded to no end, if we lived in your fairy tale where we could never judge a sinner we would have criminals all over the world just running on rape sprees, murdering sprees, robbing banks left and right with no consequence because we "cannot judge"

Give me a break

it is ILLOGICAL on all levels.

Any time I see you make a judgement I am going to point you out over and over you are being a hypocrite

Anytime I see you call someone wrong I am going to call you out for being a hypocrite and judging that they are wrong

Anytime I see you tell someone about their sin I am going to call you out for being a hypocrite and judging their sin

Thats your world view, NOT mine, you are the one with the problem and cannot live it out, not me.

Lets see how long that last for you, you already been a hypocrite so many times that you are now forced to start making hypocrite statements but then trying to say "Oh I am just using this as an example or whatever"

Ummm no, you just cannot live out your belief so when you start being a hypocrite you want to say things like "Look guys, I'm just proving a point"

no, you are saying that because you CANNOT AVOID making judgments in real life and you cannot AVOID stating the obvious about someone and you know if you do not say that it makes you a hypocrite

But its hypocritical

One way I know something is not true is when it CANNOT be lived out

So far you've proven you cannot live out that belief consistently without being a hypocrite and doing the very same thing you said we cannot do.

I'm going to keep calling out sinners for repentance, I am going to keep stating the obvious about their sin, and I am going to keep calling 911 when I see a criminal sinning and they are going to go to jail/prison for their sin/crimes against other people

You can live in la la land if you want but I live in reality where judgments and stating/declaring obvious facts are UNAVOIDABLE.

The people who cannot judge are people like you who are hypocrites and do not live out what you believe, why don't you take out the plank of your own eye hypocrite.

I took the plank out of my own eye long ago so I can judge all I want and I am going to keep judging

PS: don't respond and call me wrong and say you are right, because that would just make you a hypocrite judging me again :)
 
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You said you would get back to scripture. Lying is a Sin.
You are Sinning. (I'm just making a point about others Judging Sin.)

Hypocrite!!! Hypocrite!!! Thanks for showing us all what a hypocrite you are. You just did the very thing you said you cannot do hypocrite!!! You are full of hypocrisyThought we couldn't judge hypocrite??? Why did you just judge me hypocrite??

(I was just making a point about others Judging Sin and how it doesn't work.)
Unless you were actually lying, then it was a lucky guess.

But I should get back to scripture, since it has been avoided so much here:

What Does the Bible Say About Judging Others?

Matthew 7:1-5
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

James 4:11-12
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

James 4:12
There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

Romans 2:1-3
Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Romans 14:1-13
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

John 8:7
And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

Matthew 7:1-2
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

Titus 3:2-7
To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, ...

James 1:26
If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that you be not judged.

Luke 6:31
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

Proverbs 31:9
Open your mouth, judge righteously ----> defend the rights of the poor and needy.

Matthew 7:1-29
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...

Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Luke 6:37-42
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.” He also told them a parable: “Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? ...

Romans 12:16-19
Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

Galatians 5:14
For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”



 
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I wonder why would people think not wanting to have children is a sin?

Because the scriptures make a comment about going forth and multiplying
and filling the earth. One major religion has deemed that as a Godly imperative
that all couples must avoid birth control and have as many children as God
will make it possible. I don't know how they deal with the "Women shall not
speak in church" passages.
 
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(I was just making a point about others Judging Sin and how it doesn't work.)
Unless you were actually lying, then it was a lucky guess.
Nope, you called me a liar, now back up your claim. Whats the matter cannot back up your claim about my sin???

I would love you to, #1 you can't because you would be a hypocrite once again based on what you believe we cannot judge sin in other people and #2 - I have no problem with ANYONE on this Earth judging me because I am not sinning and surely have not sinned today and any time I have I have repented of it.

So please show me where I have lied and sinned.

If I tell someone "I'm going to reply back to you after you reply back to me"

Is there a time limit on that? The word AFTER means any time after, unless I specifically told you when I was going to reply specifically you have no way of knowing when I am going to reply all you know is that I said "AFTER". I like to do research before I get into a topic and I have to leave in a little bit.

You told me "YOU ARE SINNING"

You have not proven me to have sinned, so its ironic, you are the liar now.

You were making a point? Oh, so then you lied to make a point, either way you just lied according to yourself.

This is what happens when you believe in something that you cannot live out, you start getting called out on hypocrisy for doing things you cannot do based on what you said we cannot do.

You called me a lying sinner now back it up and show me where I have lied.

Last time I remember I told you I would reply back to your verses after you met the conditions and I clearly gave conditions. Last time I remember I did not give you a time limit or exact time when I was going to respond to the verses, I like to research to make sure I am absolutely correct on whatever I am about to say to the best of my knowledge.

I just sold an item on facebook weeks ago and when someone replied back to buy it I sent them a message that said "I'll reply back to you in a little bit"

I didn't reply until the next day, does that mean I lied and sinned??? No, because I didn't give an exact TIME when I was going to reply back, i gave a general estimate.

I said AFTER, the word AFTER means the event or action takes place AFTER the condition has been met, I could still reply back 4 years later and it would still be considered "AFTER" so no, even if I waited 4 years it would still not be a lie as long as I reply back like I said after the conditions have been met.

I just don't want to see you call me wrong on anything okay? Because I don't want you being a hypocrite and judging my beliefs and calling me wrong okay?

Your position is filled with problems

There is NO WAY you are going to live that out your entire life, you will judge, you will make judgements and you already have done so multiple times regardless if you want to call it making a point or not, you still have.

I actually LOVE your position and stance on this alot, because it means you are reducing yourself to absurdity because you cannot reply back to anything I say even if it was wrong because then you would be making judgments and being a hypocrite again.

That being said, give up that position, you cannot live that out, it is illogical on so many levels.

It must suck really bad to read all of this and not be able to make a judgement on what I am saying :) Ummm... I do not care about judging, I have no problem with being judged because I am not guilty of any sin currently.

Can any of you point out sin in my right now? Jesus himself told his enemies to point out sin in him and they could find none. Now I am not Jesus, I have sinned in the past but I have repented.

But I follow in his footsteps and I am doing the same thing, I challenge ANYONE to call me out on a sin I have committed and any future sins I am capable of doing.

I actually OBEY and live out what I believe and I obey Jesus.

Jesus called people hypocrites, I'm going to call people hypocrites too when I see hypocrisy.

Jesus rebuked people, Jesus told people about hell, he warned them, I can declare what Jesus said because if Jesus was here he would DECLARE the SAME THING about sinners and sin.

I am no condemning anyone, only God can do that.

I am just beating a dead horse and making sure you understand clearly not to judge anything I ever say or call me wrong or make judgements because I don't want to have to call you a hypocrite again for judging my post or me :)

I'm not the one with the problem, people judge me all the time and I AM OKAY with it, I WANT to be judged to prove I have no guilt, I am NOT afraid of getting judged by ANY MAN or God because I know I am good thanks to the blood of Jesus and I have repented of my sins and am not a hypocrite living in in them every day.

The only people who hate judging are hypocrites, criminals, and people who are GUILTY.

Criminals are the ones who hate judging

People who have nothing to hide do not mind being judged

Judge me all you WANT, I encourage it and I want to be judged.

I want to be judged by people, I want to be judged by God

Because people who have nothing to HIDE don't fear judgement

The only people who fear judgement are hypocrites, non-believing sinners and criminals

People who obey God have nothing to fear about being judged because they have repented and are not living in sin every day.

What I find is most people live in sin like hypocrites and want to point their finger of sin on other people

Well I don't care about hypocrites, I obey God and I follow in Jesus foot steps and declare to the world "Which one of you can show me guilty of sin"

The difference is, I am not saying I have never sinned, only Jesus can say that, I have sinned in the past, I am not sinning right now and nobody has evidence of it.

That is why sinner hypocrites walk away in person when they point their finger of blame for their own sin upon me, and when I ask them for proof of my sin they walk away with nothing to say.

I LOVE JUDGEMENTS, I make them everyday, I point out the obvious everyday.

When I see a criminal I call the cops so they can get JUDGED by the law

When someone steals my stuff I WANT JUDGEMENT and JUSTICE and want my stuff back

When someone is sinning and they are not mentally insane, I am going to CALL THEM OUT on it

When someone reveals a FACT about them self, I have the right to speak on that fact because its a FACT they revealed to me

When God says something I can REPEAT IT because we are commanded to PREACH the gospel, the entire GOSPEL not just part of it.

When I drive a car I judge, when I let people into my home I judge

I will TRY to respond to those other verses when I get back later tonight or tomorrow after I research the CONTEXT of each verse and see what type of judgement it is talking about, to whom it is talking about, and with looking at other verses that clearly say and imply we can make certain judgements
 
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When someone knocks on your door do you judge them??? Or do you just let them in without judging them??? Give me a break, you make judgments all the time, unless you are letting random strangers do what they please and walk in your house you are making judgements on each person who comes to your house or over your house

You have "JUDGED" they are fit to be in your house or trust worthy, I can list a million things you have to judge everyday about people in order just to function

I don't just let ANYONE into my home, I don't let rapist and strangers into my home, I JUDGE THEM and say "This is a total stranger and he is cursing his brains out" therefor I am not letting him in my home with my family members.
 
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I on the other hand am not a hypocrite, because unlike you, I live out what I believe.

I don't tell others not to do something and then go be a hypocrite and do the very same thing to someone I told hem not to do or they cannot do.

But the problem is that "others" do see you as a hypocrite and they respond just as you did.
You couldn't help but confirm the failing of your stand, people to not take criticism, as much as one would like to think they were being helpful, it fails.
 
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