This is a frustration of mine. I'm not necessarily a non believer. But this is a topic anyone could ask so I ask it here.
I did not ask to be born. Why does God hold me accountable for anything?
He created me, gave me a spirit im supposed to make sure conforms to his destinity - otherwise im doomed. gee.... thanks :/ so gracious of You. Sometimes im like... can I go back to not existing.... no? k... thanks for nothing! (i say that sarcastically today but not always)
What am I not realizing?
The accountability we mean above is certainly our accountability to eternal life later, and certainly not accountability when we live physically in this temporary world.
What we need to know first is our identity;
1 Who are we?
2 Why can we get to the life of the eternal world ?, can the animal also get there?
3 If we are different from animals, because we are Spiritual being (there is definitely spirit within each of us ) - and animals are not, we are originally from the eternal realm before we arrive at this temporal realm, is it true?
4 Then what kind of state did we have before, and why should we wander / sojourn in this temporary nature/perishable realm (what is the advantage ,or loss if not wander) ?.
If we understand and can answer the questions mentioned above then we will be able to answer the question on the thread above.
Answer;
1 We are God's creation, which He desires to be with, to glorify Him.
Isa43:7 Even
every one that is called by my name:
for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
2 Even though we live in the temporal realm, where animals also exist, but in our body there is a spiritual being on our behalf who has been sent by God to exist on our body since we are physically born from the womb of our physical mother while the animal is not.
Zec12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth,
and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Isa44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and
he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Ecc12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
3 Yes.
We had been with God, before this perishable world was formed.
Eph1:4 According as
he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Jer1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
4 Before we were sent by Him into this perishable realm, we (men’s spirit) were already with Him, and our names were already written too in the book of life, our state at that time was zero state (have no knowledge, have no ability), at that time God also had already had His servants faithful angels, also there were angels who rebel against Him they were demons/devils, faithful angels and demons (spirits) they were all in full state (full of knowledge ,full of abilities), We conclude like this because when Adam and Eve were created they were utterly have no knowledge even to distinguish between good and evil they were not capable, but not for His faithful angels and demons, They were full of abilities and knowledge.
If we did not prior sojourn/wander physically in this perishable realm/, then for eternity we are like nothing because there is nothing we can play like a vacuum void space , and by being created that is the only way in which we the zero state can experience a good growth in Knowledge and ability in this temporal nature cause this is the only media that gives the possibility of growth (eternal nature no growth), if here we can see that it is the advantage and also the loss if not created then at least we have stepped forward in the introduction about Who we are and who God is and what His plan is.
Furthermore we may also think why should start with the zero-state man ?, can not it be started through the faithful angel equipped with an eternal body, is not there certainly no sin, and more simply, no need for redeemer, savior and so on?
But unfortunately the outcome will not meet His Goal "glorify God" here is a brief overview of this scenario;
God's plan for man that He will create for His glory is: Adam, Eve, Abel, Seth, ......., Noah, ......, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, ......, last name in the book of life.
Possibility:
1. All of them were created together, and placed in Eden ,there was no devil , there was no forbidden fruit.
Surely in this option
they would live forever in peace .
millions years later, they are asked: "why can you live in Eden peacefully, not like the devil and his allies that were thrown into eternal fire?"
Answer: "Yes of course, we are indeed glorious creatures who are created in the image of God".
Question:
does the answer bring glory to God ?.
2 God created His people at once, There was the forbidden tree where the fruit not allowed to be eaten, there was no devil ( His people already in full state/ there was nothing to do with the devil), millions years later God came to them and judged , all the rebels died in that time, now the rest only the obedient ones , then they are asked : How can you live in a glory not like them who were thrown to the lof ? (
when God created Human from His faithful angels with the eternal bodies the out come surely same ) they answer “ surely, we are all more obedient than them”,
does their answer bring glory to God?.
3 God creates as written in the bible (zero state), then the winners (Rev3:5) / the saveds are asked in NHNE : How can you live in a glory with God , not like the devils and the losers who were thrown to the lof , they answer”
actually there is nothing more within us than they are ,if they were thrown to the lof , we shall be thrown too ( Isa64:6, Isa26:12, rev19:8 ), but if now we live in this eternal land peacefully that all comes from
His Glory only”,
does their answer bring glory to God?.
So the answer to the question on this thread is: Due to the lack of understanding about: who are we ?, who is God ?, why does God create us and for what?