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Thank you all so much for responding. I was afraid no one wanted to talk to the new kid in school. It seems most of us are in agreement that this generation shall not pass, and of course, we are not to know the exact time or the season for our Lord's return. The closest we can come is the generation of His return, as the Lord explained in 3 of His gospels. My "dating" comes from an old 19th century scholar, I'm not sure how to spell his name, Bullinger I think. Thanks again, I'm enjoying the forum.
It is kind of hard to look at the things happening in the world with ever increasing severity and not recognize that the end is near. I am happy you are enjoying the forum. :)
 
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Thank you all so much for responding. I was afraid no one wanted to talk to the new kid in school. It seems most of us are in agreement that this generation shall not pass, and of course, we are not to know the exact time or the season for our Lord's return. The closest we can come is the generation of His return, as the Lord explained in 3 of His gospels. My "dating" comes from an old 19th century scholar, I'm not sure how to spell his name, Bullinger I think. Thanks again, I'm enjoying the forum.
People are pretty responsive here.

As to this generation not passing, I think ( personal opinion) we will come to find that to be an age( dispensation of grace, thus the grace age). Plenty of generations have come and gone in this time already.
 
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People are pretty responsive here.

As to this generation not passing, I think ( personal opinion) we will come to find that to be an age( dispensation of grace, thus the grace age). Plenty of generations have come and gone in this time already.
Thanks so much Dave, but I believe the Lord was talking about a particular generation in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. He told us to watch for the parable of the fig tree being completed and that generation is the one that would not pass. I agree with you on this dispensation of grace, it has lasted 2,000 years until the fullness of the Gentiles could come in.
 
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It is kind of hard to look at the things happening in the world with ever increasing severity and not recognize that the end is near. I am happy you are enjoying the forum. :)
Thank you for your kind words, handmaid, and I agree the world is going south, quickly.
 
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Thanks so much Dave, but I believe the Lord was talking about a particular generation in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. He told us to watch for the parable of the fig tree being completed and that generation is the one that would not pass. I agree with you on this dispensation of grace, it has lasted 2,000 years until the fullness of the Gentiles could come in.
Back twenty or thirty years ago, there were several viable interpretations of the parable of the fig tree.

1948 +40 years = 1988 (fail)
1948 +70 years = 2018 (fail, because the 7 years comes first)
1967+40 years = 2007 (fail)

1967+70 = 2037 this is the right combination. Jerusalem is the fig tree because as Jesus and the disciples were about to enter Jerusalem, he cursed the fig tree beside the road, knowing that them in Jerusalem would reject him. So when the Jews regained control of Jerusalem, in 1967, that is the base year.

2037 is at the latest, could be much sooner than then, but not without the 7years taking place before it. The 7 years are going to begin when the person who becomes the Antichrist confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years - as Moses made it a requirement for all future leadership to do likewise of him being the first to confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant that God gave the children of Israel the land of Israel as theirs forever.

What the confirmation of the covenant will look like will be a big speech by the Antichrist on the temple mount to the nation of Israel, like Moses gave in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. Won't happen until after Gog/Magog, to end the muslim presence on the temple mount.
 
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Back twenty or thirty years ago, there were several viable interpretations of the parable of the fig tree.

1948 +40 years = 1988 (fail)
1948 +70 years = 2018 (fail, because the 7 years comes first)
1967+40 years = 2007 (fail)
Why don't you list May 1948 + 70years, as that still has 10 months to run?
 
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Why don't you list May 1948 + 70years, as that still has 10 months to run?
I did list it, but as a fail. Because there is not enough time between now and May 2018 - for the 7 years that precede Jesus's return.
 
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Although I don't have any proof of what I'm about to say , but I do believe that 2000 yrs of Christianity would have to play an important role in any timing , soooooooooo....2033/34-35 or there abouts maybe?
maybe.
 
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Generationally (is that a word?) speaking, it has been exactly 2 days since our Beloved was crucified. As it is repeatedly written, and the third day, He shall rise again. Is our Lord about to rise again, to begin the 3rd day?
Moreover, generationally speaking, our generation (2017) is exactly 6 days out from Adam's creation. Is the 7th day, the millennial day, about to begin?
Any thoughts are appreciated. Bless this forum.
Of course not. All of this sort of speculation has been prohibited, from day 1.
 
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Generationally (is that a word?) speaking, it has been exactly 2 days since our Beloved was crucified. As it is repeatedly written, and the third day, He shall rise again. Is our Lord about to rise again, to begin the 3rd day?
Moreover, generationally speaking, our generation (2017) is exactly 6 days out from Adam's creation. Is the 7th day, the millennial day, about to begin?
Any thoughts are appreciated. Bless this forum.

Hello,

I believe you are correct. Here is one that I heard that I thought was pretty neat. When Jesus heard that Lazarus was sick, He waited two days. In other words, God will resurrect Israel after two days have past. That fits in with your timeline
 
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I believe you are correct. Here is one that I heard that I thought was pretty neat. When Jesus heard that Lazarus was sick, He waited two days. In other words, God will resurrect Israel after two days have past. That fits in with your timeline
Not quite.
Note that in Israel, Lazarus would not have been considered officially dead until a certain amount of time had passed, even though the body was legally prepared and buried. (this was their common and accepted belief/law):
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He abode two days - Probably Lazarus died soon after the messengers left him. Jesus knew that (John 11:11), and did not hasten to Judea, but remained two days longer where he was, that there might not be the possibility of doubt that he was dead, so that when he came there he had been dead four days, John 11:39. This shows, moreover, that he intended to raise him up. If
 
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Why don't you list May 1948 + 70years, as that still has 10 months to run?
I did list it, but as a fail. Because there is not enough time between now and May 2018 - for the 7 years that precede Jesus's return.
But Douggggg, the last seven years do not commence until the Anti-Christ signs a peace treaty with new Israel.
Much must happen before that to enable the AC to gain power and Beulah to build the new Temple. Plainly the next prophesied event will be the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, that will set the scene for these things to happen.
Thinking the Return is what Jesus meant in Matthew 24:32-34, is a mistake, as Jesus goes on to say: No one knows the day....and that Day will be a reset of civilization similar to Noah's flood.
Note: we will know the Day of Jesus' Return, exactly 1260 days after the AC sits in the Temple.
 
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Back twenty or thirty years ago, there were several viable interpretations of the parable of the fig tree.

1948 +40 years = 1988 (fail)
1948 +70 years = 2018 (fail, because the 7 years comes first)
1967+40 years = 2007 (fail)

1967+70 = 2037 this is the right combination. Jerusalem is the fig tree because as Jesus and the disciples were about to enter Jerusalem, he cursed the fig tree beside the road, knowing that them in Jerusalem would reject him. So when the Jews regained control of Jerusalem, in 1967, that is the base year.

2037 is at the latest, could be much sooner than then, but not without the 7years taking place before it. The 7 years are going to begin when the person who becomes the Antichrist confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years - as Moses made it a requirement for all future leadership to do likewise of him being the first to confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant that God gave the children of Israel the land of Israel as theirs forever.

What the confirmation of the covenant will look like will be a big speech by the Antichrist on the temple mount to the nation of Israel, like Moses gave in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. Won't happen until after Gog/Magog, to end the muslim presence on the temple mount.

Biggest issue with your approach is one-trick nature of it. At least for me. You have two numbers, you add them, and voila, we've got a year. I think you make it extraordinary simple, completely opposite to the nature of God's end time prophecy.

Not to mention other problems.

For example, Israel, or Jewish nation, is fig tree per parable of the barren fig tree in Luke 13:6-9. Jesus did curse fig tree in Jerusalem, but He had to curse it somewhere. Had He cursed fig tree in Bethsaida, would you think that fig tree is Bethsaida? It doesn't mean fig tree isn't Jerusalem, but I think it's primarily whole Israel.

Generation is noted as 70 or 80 years, with today's Jews in Israel living somewhat longer than 80 years on average, so 80 could be the number of generation. Or maybe even 82, since that's current life expectancy in Israel.

Also, Jesus says "generation will not pass" not "full generation will be completed" or something like that. Meaning, Jesus doesn't say that one full generation has to complete, but that it will all happen within one generation. So, number for calculation might not be either 70 or 80 or 82. It might, but also it might not.

So not only do you have a problem by simplifying it to one simplest calculation (a+b=c), your one calculation is arbitrary in nature.

Now, if fig tree is actually Israel, and if generation is 82 years, then we have 1948+82=2030 as last possible final year. But what does this calculation mean? Not a lot, since I am not sure if either 1948 and 82 are correct numbers to calculate. We are in the season, but since we are so close, arbitrary calculations (not to mention one-trick-natured arbitrary calculations) can end up to be very misleading.
 
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Generationally (is that a word?) speaking, it has been exactly 2 days since our Beloved was crucified. As it is repeatedly written, and the third day, He shall rise again. Is our Lord about to rise again, to begin the 3rd day?
Moreover, generationally speaking, our generation (2017) is exactly 6 days out from Adam's creation. Is the 7th day, the millennial day, about to begin?
Any thoughts are appreciated. Bless this forum.

Well it has not been quite two days ( in your Biblical terminology ) since Jesus was executed.. Jesus was executed in 30 AD so 30 + 2000 = 2030 ... and it is only 2017 now so we have to wait around another 13 years before it has been two days since the Lord was executed..

But again the 1000 year day is a theory... It may or may not be true..
 
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