Is Trump Under Investigation.

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What is puzzling me is the President Trump seems to be in denial about being under investigation. This flies in the face of the fact that there is a special prosecutor to specifically investigate him. The Senate just passed a bill imposing sanctions on Russia for interference in the 2016, something that Trump denies. I'm just curious, at this point is it feasible that Trump is not under investigation, especially given the fact that a special prosecutor has been appointed.
 
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What is puzzling me is the President Trump seems to be in denial about being under investigation. This flies in the face of the fact that there is a special prosecutor to specifically investigate him. The Senate just passed a bill imposing sanctions on Russia for interference in the 2016, something that Trump denies. I'm just curious, at this point is it feasible that Trump is not under investigation, especially given the fact that a special prosecutor has been appointed.

Not mentioning any names but some people wouldn't know the truth if they tripped over it.

Yes, he is under investigation.
 
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Not mentioning any names but some people wouldn't know the truth if they tripped over it.

Yes, he is under investigation.
The irony for me is that he probably wouldn't be if he had handled the Comey firing with some tact. I just keep hearing his lawyers and supporters argue that he is not under investigation, Newt Gingrich even argued that he wasn't this morning. I don't know at this point how they figure.
 
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What is puzzling me is the President Trump seems to be in denial about being under investigation. This flies in the face of the fact that there is a special prosecutor to specifically investigate him. The Senate just passed a bill imposing sanctions on Russia for interference in the 2016, something that Trump denies. I'm just curious, at this point is it feasible that Trump is not under investigation, especially given the fact that a special prosecutor has been appointed.

I am under the impression this whole thing is to hide election fraud. Look at the policy numbers on those sanctions. 92-2 or some sort high rating on both sides of the isle? Those kind of approval numbers scream , "we are hiding something major to democracy" like election fraud.

That above is not a partisan comment of which party did it as you well know we are under oligarchy rule that is bipartisan . As we know both sides of the isle are policy makers to the corporations that run the elections and/or corporation general policies for the past 40 years foreign and domestic. When our treasury is owned by a foreign corporation/bank , the people are serfs to that foreign bank for it knows no democracy of nations. It is impossible to fit "one nation under God" (which makes our pledge of allegiance to the flag a lie) in a foreign owned treasury or multi national corporation policy writers (our government both R & D). That equals oligarchy defined to global profit. In my opinion someone needs to rewrite that pledge to the flag :scratch: as it is a lie to the people. :oldthumbsup:
 
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What is puzzling me is the President Trump seems to be in denial about being under investigation.
That's interesting, since what I hear on all the news channels is that he is to be criticized for tweeting about his being under investigation when there is (supposedly) no evidence that he is.
This flies in the face of the fact that there is a special prosecutor to specifically investigate him.
I would suggest giving a little more attention to the facts before creating a thread of this nature.
 
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What is puzzling me is the President Trump seems to be in denial about being under investigation. This flies in the face of the fact that there is a special prosecutor to specifically investigate him. The Senate just passed a bill imposing sanctions on Russia for interference in the 2016, something that Trump denies. I'm just curious, at this point is it feasible that Trump is not under investigation, especially given the fact that a special prosecutor has been appointed.
Then only way I can see President Trump having a clean conscience about this is if he believes that this investigation about his involvement will reach final conclusions about his innocence.

Politics can be rather fickle, much like how some democrats liked James Comey at one point during the inquiry into Hillary Clinton's emails and then later they too also wanted his dismissal.
 
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That's interesting, since what I hear on all the news channels is that he is to be criticized for tweeting about his being under investigation when there is (supposedly) no evidence that he is. I would suggest giving a little more attention to the facts before creating a thread of this nature.

True, it's his lawyer who denies that Trump is under investigation... this is a bit of a puzzler, isn't it? The President of the United States has officially stated that he's under investigation, and yet his attorney says he isn't.
 
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We're watching a man witness his own and self-inflicted downfall unravel in front of him. His clasping at straws doesn't surprise me.

What we're watching is the Patricians attempt to oust the guy the Plebeians chose, and not realizing the ramifications if they're successful. Scott Adams (the Dilbert guy, he has a little bit of a following) has already gone on record saying that if they push out Trump, the next person the Democrats get in needs to be removed in the exact same manner, which is what I've been warning people was going to happen.
 
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if they push out Trump, the next person the Democrats get in needs to be removed in the exact same manner, which is what I've been warning people was going to happen.
If it gets Trump out that'd be fine with me.
 
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What we're watching is the Patricians attempt to oust the guy the Plebeians chose, and not realizing the ramifications if they're successful. Scott Adams (the Dilbert guy, he has a little bit of a following) has already gone on record saying that if they push out Trump, the next person the Democrats get in needs to be removed in the exact same manner, which is what I've been warning people was going to happen.

You've also been warning people that the investigations into the Trump admin are a giant conspiracy theory, though, so it is kind of hard to take your advice seriously. You know, what with the multiple actual ongoing investigations actually ongoing and all that.
 
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What we're watching is the Patricians attempt to oust the guy the Plebeians chose, and not realizing the ramifications if they're successful. Scott Adams (the Dilbert guy, he has a little bit of a following) has already gone on record saying that if they push out Trump, the next person the Democrats get in needs to be removed in the exact same manner, which is what I've been warning people was going to happen.

Wouldn't this all be moot if it turns out that Trump is actually guilty of the things he's being investigated for?
 
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Just saw the Wallace/Sekulow exchange. Someone needs to tell his legal staff read his Tweets.



This was unbelievable. He said Trump wasn't being investigated then says he is being investigated, and got mad at Wallace for pointing out he said it. I don't think Mueller would have advised them he was under investigation whether he is or not, but they seem awfully mad about and critical over an investigation that isn't taking place.
 
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This was unbelievable. He said Trump wasn't being investigated then says he is being investigated, and got mad at Wallace for pointing out he said it. I don't think Mueller would have advised them he was under investigation whether he is or not, but they seem awfully mad about and critical over an investigation that isn't taking place.

Wow, Trump's lawyer he sure didn't hold up very well under cross-examination.
 
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Fair enough, but if he did obstruct justice, it's not really a "witch-hunt" when you actually catch one, is it?

Doesn't the Constitution cede to the president an executive power, which includes the discretion and authority to terminate certain positions, such as the FBI Director?

Can a president obstruct justice by terminating the FBI director when the U.S. Constitution cedes to the president the power and authority to terminate the FBI director for any reason?

Doesn't the Constitution, by vesting in the president executive power, cede to the president the authority to inform and direct the FBI Director who to investigate and whether to investigate?

Can a president obstruct justice by informing the FBI Director who to investigate?
 
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Doesn't the Constitution cede to the president an executive power, which includes the discretion and authority to terminate certain positions, such as the FBI Director?

Can a president obstruct justice by terminating the FBI director when the U.S. Constitution cedes to the president the power and authority to terminate the FBI director for any reason?

Doesn't the Constitution, by vesting in the president executive power, cede to the president the authority to inform and direct the FBI Director who to investigate and whether to investigate?

Can a president obstruct justice by informing the FBI Director who to investigate?

Even if they could figure out how to do it legally, they've already lost the political capital to do so, simply by droning on about Russia and other conspiracies. At this point they could have Trump dead to rights and half the country would believe it's a hatchet job because of the outrageous behavior the Never Trump crowd has displayed so far.
 
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