We cannot know for certain, but what do you think...

[Yahchristian]

We cannot know for certain, but what do you think...

When was Jesus born? I think the Fall of 5 BC.
When was Jesus baptized? I think the Fall of 26 AD.
When was Jesus crucified? I think the Spring of 30 AD.
When was the start of Daniel's 70 weeks? I think the Fall of 458 BC.
When was the end of the first 69 weeks? I think the Fall of 26 AD.

I am curious what dates you have all come up with.


P.S.

I think Jesus was born in the Fall of 5 BC and was crucified in the Spring of 30 AD, so he lived to be 33 1/2 years old.

And I think Daniel's first 69 weeks started in the Fall of 458 BC and ended when Jesus was baptized in the Fall of 26 AD (when Jesus turned 30 years old), that was a period of 483 years (69 * 7).

Which means Jesus died and rose again 3 1/2 years after he was baptized, in the middle of Daniel's 70th week.

 

[keras]

Luke 3:1-2 gives very specific historical proofs that the Baptism of Jesus happened in mid 29 AD.

His Crucifixion was in April 33 AD, as evidenced by the darkening of the sun for 3 hours, Luke 23:44-45. This unexplainable darkness, not an eclipse, was widely seen and commented on. It is proved by the historical record, to have happened on the 3rd of April 33 AD.

Daniels 70 week will happen in the last seven years of this age. It will be divided into 2 halves, the first will be peaceful, but the second will be the Great Tribulation, as Revelation describes.

 

[Yahchristian]

Luke 3:1-2 gives very specific historical proofs that the Baptism of Jesus happened in mid 29 AD.

His Crucifixion was in April 33 AD, as evidenced by the darkening of the sun for 3 hours, Luke 23:44-45. This unexplainable darkness, not an eclipse, was widely seen and commented on. It is proved by the historical record, to have happened on the 3rd of April 33 AD.

Daniels 70 week will happen in the last seven years of this age. It will be divided into 2 halves, the first will be peaceful, but the second will be the Great Tribulation, as Revelation describes.

I must not have been clear. The fourth question is "When was the start of Daniel's 70 weeks" not "When was the start of Daniel's 70th week".

In other words, the last two questions are asking for the beginning and ending dates for the first 69 weeks of Daniel's 70 weeks.

You answered two of the five questions. Do you have dates for the other three?

When was Jesus born?
Yahchristian: Fall of 5 BC
keras: ???

When was Jesus baptized?
Yahchristian: Fall of 26 AD
keras: Mid 29 AD

When was Jesus crucified?
Yahchristian: Spring of 30 AD
keras: April 3, 33 AD

When was the start of Daniel's 70 weeks?
In other words, when was the start of the first 69 weeks?
Yahchristian: Fall of 458 BC
keras: ???

When was the end of the first 69 weeks?
Yahchristian: Fall of 26 AD
keras: ???

How about the rest of you...

It seems that people who participate on this forum have strong opinions about eschatology. I am surprised more of you have not figured out these basic dates so that they fit with your eschatological view.

 

[keras]

When was Jesus born?
Yahchristian: Fall of 5 BC
keras: ???

Could be 5 BC. I don't see the date of Jesus' birth as particularly significant.
Also, most people get the BC/AD changeover wrong. AD1 follows BC1,etc; but what messes up the count is the fact of the years being counted at their commencement. That is why at January 1 2000, only 1999 years had passed.
So to get a correct count of elapsed years between BC and AD, we must add 2.

The start of the 69 'weeks'? Must have been 483 years before 33 AD. Simple!

 

[Yahchristian]

So to get a correct count of elapsed years between BC and AD, we must add 2.

Actually... to get the count of elapsed years between a day in BC and the same day in AD, you have to subtract 1 year.

I will give you the simplest example.

From June 15, 1 BC to June 15, 1 AD there is only 1 year (1 BC + 1 AD - 1).

Could be 5 BC. I don't see the date of Jesus' birth as particularly significant.

It is only significant if you think the Bible implies how old Jesus was when he was crucified.

Whereas most people think the Bible implies that Jesus was 33 1/2 when he died...

Your dates would make Jesus 37 years old when he was crucified.

(There are exactly 37 years from April 3, 5 BC to April 3, 33 AD.)

Do you think Jesus was 37 years old when he was crucified?

The start of the 69 'weeks'? Must have been 483 years before 33 AD. Simple!

Actually... it's not so simple.

Some people, myself included, think the 483 years are solar years.

Others think the 483 years are lunar years, and others think they are 360-day years.

So I cannot discern the start of the 69 weeks from your answer. Could you clarify...

When do you think the 69 weeks started?

I think they started in the Fall of 458 BC.

 

[keras]

Actually... to get the count of elapsed years between a day in BC and the same day in AD, you have to subtract 1 year.
I will give you the simplest example.
From June 15, 1 BC to June 15, 1 AD there is only 1 year (1 BC + 1 AD - 1).

As I said: most people get the BC/AD changeover wrong and you are no exception.
There is a whole year of 1 BC and a whole year of 1 AD. The BC one commences at the 31st December, going backwards and the AD one commences at 1st January, going forward.
Deducting a year is wrong. Note; that the years are counted at their commencement, therefore in order to arrive at a total of the elapsed years between a BC and an AD date, we must add 2.
There is much confusion and error over this issue and it took me quite a while to get to the truth of it. I hope that you will carefully reconsider your beliefs about this.

Whereas most people think the Bible implies that Jesus was 33 1/2 when he died...

Luke only says Jesus was 'about 30' when He was Baptized. Luke 3:23
Another issue of no significance.

When do you think the 69 weeks started? I think they started in the Fall of 458 BC.

I make it 458 BC too. 483 -33 +2 = 458 Voila!

 

[Yahchristian]

Deducting a year is wrong. Note; that the years are counted at their commencement, therefore in order to arrive at a total of the elapsed years between a BC and an AD date, we must add 2.

I must say I am surprised that we have to debate this. So tell me...

How many years are there between June 16, 1 BC and June 16, 1 AD?

I say 1 (1 BC + 1 AD - 1).

Do you say 4 (1 BC + 1 AD + 2)?

I make it 458 BC too. 483 -33 +2 = 458 Voila!

For starters, 483 - 33 + 2 = 452 (not 458).

In addition, there are 490 years (not 483) between June 16, 458 BC and June 16, 33 AD.

P.S. Here is Casio's Online Calculator to calculate the time between two dates.

 

[keras]

I must say I am surprised that we have to debate this. So tell me...

How many years are there between June 16, 1 BC and June 16, 1 AD?
I say 1 (1 BC + 1 AD - 1).
Do you say 4 (1 BC + 1 AD + 2)?

You don't seem to realize that we count the years at their commencement. It is only at the end of a year that it is actually completed.
There is 1 year between June 1BC and June 1AD, but the year designations say 2 and at the completion of those years, we start the new ones with 2BC and 2AD but only 2 have passed.

Therefore, as I have already said; in order to obtain a the number of elapsed years between BC/AD dates, we must add 2 because they are called a year before they pass.
We count our birthdays differently, babies become one after 1 year and our age is the total of elapsed years.

 

[Yahchristian]

in order to obtain a the number of elapsed years between BC/AD dates, we must add 2 because they are called a year before they pass.

I am not sure I follow you. So for clarification...

How many years are there between January 1, 2 BC and December 31, 2 AD?

I say 4 (2 BC + 2 AD).

Do you say 6 (2 BC + 2 AD + 2)?


P.S.

Do you actually believe 483 - 33 + 2 = 458?

You posted that in a previous post, but I am giving you a chance to change your mind.