Oklahoma congressman: It's 'bull crap' that constituents pay my salary

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It would be nice, but being mouthpieces for special interests is likely the higher paying gig. The fact we've let *that* happen is a disgrace.

Not sure that we did. The people who are getting that money are the same ones who can vote to change it and even then, the conservative Supreme Court ruled that money = speech and that special interests = persons who can use that speech.
 
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Not sure that we did. The people who are getting that money are the same ones who can vote to change it and even then, the conservative Supreme Court ruled that money = speech and that special interests = persons who can use that speech.

We absolutely let that happen. We keep reelecting the same batch of congressmen time and time again, regardless of how corrupt they are.

Meanwhile, you appear to be referring to the "Citizens United" case. That ruling is both weird (i.e., congressmen have a First Amendment right to listen to what lobbyists tell them) and corrosive. It was a terrible one, indeed, and embraces an issue that I hope is revisited by the Supreme Court soon. We're talking about a pressing issue here, and I see it as one that is politically neutral -- we can either let our government be bought or not.
 
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We absolutely let that happen. We keep reelecting the same batch of congressmen time and time again, regardless of how corrupt they are.

Some people have the mentality that all politicians are corrupt, except the ones that represents them.
 
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Some people have the mentality that all politicians are corrupt, except the ones that represents them.

There are a lot of surveys out there that state just that. That is precisely why Congress has such a low approval rating, but the likelihood of reelection is high. It's always "them other rascals" that are messing things up...
 
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There are a lot of surveys out there that state just that. That is precisely why Congress has such a low approval rating, but the likelihood of reelection is high. It's always "them other rascals" that are messing things up...

Pork is bad (unless it is going to pay for our new bridge, community center, airport, hydroelectric dam…)
 
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Pork is bad (unless it is going to pay for our new bridge, community center, airport, hydroelectric dam…)

Absolutely right. Why, all of that stuff is "necessary" and the government "owes it to us." If Congress actually did start slashing budgets and trying to save money, the congressmen there now would be booted out of office by furious voters.
 
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Mind games. Fun. Not. Have a good day.
No mind games. You are probably just used to the idea that if someone questions an article, it must mean that they are against it and will fight tooth and nail to prove it's wrong. So don't jump to conclusions.
 
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No mind games. You are probably just used to the idea that if someone questions an article, it must mean that they are against it and will fight tooth and nail to prove it's wrong. So don't jump to conclusions.

Making unfounded assumptions about me and still playing more mind games. Please don't talk to me. I'm not into for this type of crap at the moment.
 
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Making unfounded assumptions about me and still playing more mind games. Please don't talk to me. I'm not into for this type of crap at the moment.
Then please don't make unfounded accusations concerning me. :thumbsup:
 
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So where's the flaw in his thinking?

When one states "I pay your salary" they are saying "you answer to me", the people in this case. When he states "bullcrap" he is saying "I answer to no-one".

That's disturbing.
 
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When one states "I pay your salary" they are saying "you answer to me", the people in this case. When he states "bullcrap" he is saying "I answer to no-one".

That's disturbing.
Politically yes. And maybe even morally. But is he wrong in the math?
 
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Politically yes. And maybe even morally. But is he wrong in the math?
I haven't seen his tax returns to know how much he has paid in federal income taxes so I don't have any way of knowing if his math is correct.
 
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I haven't seen his tax returns to know how much he has paid in federal income taxes so I don't have any way of knowing if his math is correct.
Me neither.
 
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