Is there a gay demon or a demon for every sin?

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I don't know about that but I've been delivered from the temptation of being attracted to a male before so that is good! God is good and he won't let you deal with something too powerful for you to not be able to get out of. I will pray for people suffering with same sex attraction.


I have a problem with that second part, because if that were the case then people wouldn't get tortured til they die, or they wouldn't commit suicide.
 
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I have a problem with that second part, because if that were the case then people wouldn't get tortured til they die, or they wouldn't commit suicide.

Some things are meant to happen and we cannot change them. Some things are planned by God in advance. For suicide, people have a way out they need to be open and willing to communicate plus a believer in Jesus Christ who will empower someone to deal with their struggle.
 
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I read somewhere there were 177ish sins discussed in the bible. Is it farfetched to assume there is a demon or a legion of demons for every sin trying to get people to commit them? It also seems our minds are able to connect with the spiritual world and hence why we sometimes get thoughts that are against what the bible says we are to think about. What do you guys think?
This idea that there is a demon or demons for specific sins I have no idea where this came from. I think people like to think that someone else MADE them do their sin and not themselves which in our hearts is where sin originates.

I think the name it and claim it preachers came up with this one.
 
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Some things are meant to happen and we cannot change them. Some things are planned by God in advance. For suicide, people have a way out they need to be open and willing to communicate plus a believer in Jesus Christ who will empower someone to deal with their struggle.
Christians are extra dense in dealing with any mental illness. The church has failed this group of people.
 
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I'll quote a post from another thread because Herber Book List explains it well:

You are reading into the account that which is not there (eisegesis). It does not mean that the King of Tyre was, literally, an angel. Ezekiel uses the imagery of an angel to describe the King's declared greatness, before his fall. Verses 12 - 13 in the Hebrew text are set as questions: 'Were you the Seal of Perfection? Were you full of wisdom and flawless in beauty? Were you in the Garden of Eden? Yes, you walked on the mountain among the fiery stones' (refers to David and Solomon). In short, the King was trying to out-G_d, G_d, by the way he saw himself as very much equal to, or even as being better than G_d, and the way he managed the affairs of State, and so these verses are meant to be sarcastic* as are the other parts of the text, before his fate is declared.

*Some versions of the text, because of this sarcasm, are written as positive statements, not as questions, again, simply reflecting back to the King how conceited he was and, for that reason, it is put in direct contrast to the enormity of his downfall and punishment.
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First Herber was science fiction writer, and I thought a book list was a list of books, not a theological treatise.
 
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Christians are extra dense in dealing with any mental illness. The church has failed this group of people.
Rather a sweeping statement. I have several books in my library that deal with mental illness written by Christian psychologists and psychiatrists.
 
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John Dominic Crossan has provided a detailed classification of our sources for the historical Jesus according to the chronological stratification of the traditions. For a brief discussion of each source, including the reasons for its proposed dating, see John Dominic Crossan, The Historical Jesus (HarperCollins, 1991) Appendix 1, pp. 427-50. All dates shown are C.E. (Common Era).

Your dates are bit pointless because the common era did not exist in those days.
 
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This idea that there is a demon or demons for specific sins I have no idea where this came from. I think people like to think that someone else MADE them do their sin and not themselves which in our hearts is where sin originates.

I think the name it and claim it preachers came up with this one.
Can you prove there isn't?
 
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First Herber was science fiction writer, and I thought a book list was a list of books, not a theological treatise.


"Herber Book List" is the name of the user who posted that. I didnt put it in a quote box in case you wanted to address specific parts.
 
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First Herber was science fiction writer, and I thought a book list was a list of books, not a theological treatise.
Can you prove there isn't?


The burden of proof rests on the one making the claim, you're shifting the burden of proof.
 
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"Where does it state (say) in scripture..." must be one of the most misused questions in Christendom.

If one care to do an assessment of life, there are thousands of things not stated in scripture but it doesn't alter the fact that they are or are not OK.

For example, where does it say you can have a new car and I can only have a used one?

Where does it say that one has to don a dress to be a minister?

Where does it say that one can watch television the night of the meeting?

Where does it say that a person cannot preach unless he is ordained?

I could go on and give hundreds of examples but at the end of the day, God has given us his Spirit to discern and discernment is one of the nine gifts so if it is not in scripture, The Spirit of God can help me discern the validity of anything.

That is if you believe that the Spirit of God leads you. If you don't you are in dead trouble.
Well, none of those questions either prove that the question is abused, nor do they indicate that my asking it in this circumstance was abuse. Furthermore, when someone asks a question like the OP's, that's usually an indicator that they lack the discernment that you mention. If they had the discernment, they wouldn't need to ask.
 
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And just what do you think "common era" means?
It is irrelevant what I think it means. Until the atheists got hold of it, it was alway B.C. before Christ and A.D. Anno Domini, in the year of our Lord. I will stick with that as I have no intention of giving atheists leverage.
 
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So, no, you can't prove there isn't.

Strawman argument and logical fallacy, you're shifting the burden of proof again. But I'll bite. There is nothing, either in the Bible or in psychology, to indicate there's a demon for every sin or whatever. And as far as I know there's not even any religious research indicating that wither. In fact a lot of things once attributed to demons (seizures, manic episodes, etc.) we now know as medical conditions, mental disorders, or basic psychology, no demons involved.
 
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It is irrelevant what I think it means. Until the atheists got hold of it, it was alway B.C. before Christ and A.D. Anno Domini, in the year of our Lord. I will stick with that as I have no intention of giving atheists leverage.

Working at the behest of Pope John I Dionysius Exigius (aka Dennis the Short), a Russian monk, devised the official Christmas calendar in the year 527 CE (or AD 527). He used the BC and AD system around the birth of Jesus and he arbitrarily chose December 25 in AD 1 as that date. Keep in mind the use of the digit "0" was still several centuries in the future. His calendar had a number of errors a few of which were tidied up by Pope Gregory in 1582.

So no, it was not "always" as you think. It was a human invention. However, thanks to colonialism this calendar is now used worldwide. But less than half the world is Christian, so some historians now use CE (Common Era) and BCE (Before Common Era) in order to get around the Christian bias. It has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism,

So, now that you understand some of the historical background you can see that it is no big deal.
 
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