God is HOLY. He hates sin and lies and deception and the shedding of innocent blood. It is written what He hates. He sent His only begotten Son HERE on earth on a mission. The mission was to DESTROY sin and the father of lies, Satan himself. Those who align with Satan will also be destroyed.
I am not in disagreement with that.
Brinny said:
HE is the "Crush-er" of Satan's head.
Not "us".
Yes, but before you implied that this was an example of how we can act violently in self defense. I do not see how God treats angels as being the same as how He treats man and how that relates to how He wants us to behave.
Brinny said:
There is a Holy Wrath that God will un-leash at the judgement.
Again, I am not in disagreement with this. What GOD does and what GOD requires of man to do are two different things.
Brinny said:
Jesus demonstrated this Holy Wrath when He overturned tables and took a whip and "drove" the money changers out of His Father's House. It was violent.
There is a huge difference between being angry and overturning tables vs. (versus) acting with intent to potentially harm people. Overturning tables in anger does not suggest that anybody's life was threatened in any way. Now, if Jesus shot flaming arrows into the crowd of the money changers to scare them, then that would be considered as a potential lethal violent attack because people can be killed by flaming arrows and flaming arrows is a known weapon during war time.
So there is a huge difference between violence that is non life threatening and violence that is used with the intent to harm others. Jesus never shown any type of violence whereby He intended to harm others physically. Yes, Jesus will destroy those enemy nations that come up against Him, but that is not what the LORD told us to imitate according to His Word. Nowhere will you find a Command saying that we are to attack all nations because they are pagan. Somebody has to invent that Command and place it into the Bible in order for it to be true. There is also no Command in the New Testament that you can use lethal force in return when somebody attacks you, either.
Brinny said:
If any would've been foolish enough to stay within reach of that whip or near or at those tables He was overturning, would've faced the consequences of it.
Right. Because whips and over-turning tables are such effective methods of taking lives and or destroying major body parts.
Also, the whip was not with pieces of bone, and metal in it. It was not a whip used to torture people. There is no mention of how the whip would rip open flesh. I am sure that if it was, then Jesus's accusers could say they threatened their lives with a deadly weapon that could have hurt them at His trial. Remember, they were trying to pin something on Jesus and they couldn't do it.
Brinny said:
There is a "Holy Violence".
This "Holy Violence" is without sin.
It is called "judgement".
Again, I am not in disagreement with this. But what God does and what God requires of man to do (Depending on the Covenant) are two different things. Yes, God's people at one time were commanded to attack enemy nations. But this was for the nation of Israel under the Old Covenant. We are under a New Covenant with new rules or commands (that is catered to that covenant).
Brinny said:
That is why God sent His only begotten Son here, to earth, so that those who believe in Him will escape God's wrath, His "Holy Violence", His wrath.
Again, not in disagreement with this.
Brinny said:
And that is because it IS a "fearful" thing to fall into the hands of the living God without Jesus' righteousness via His blood, "covering" us.
Well, in order to have the blood cover you, you have to walk in the light as He is in the light. That is if you believe 1 John 1:7. Most self proclaiming Christians today don't believe that verse.
Brinny said:
"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." ~Hebrews 10:31
And again, I am not in disagreement with this.
Wicked man and angels will be judged and destroyed and it will be more scarier or fearful for them than they realize when they are faced with God in the End.
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