Anybody else pretend to be Christian?

[LoAmmi]

No, I was thinking of at least a hijabs. (very common sight where I live.) Burkas look more opressive.

Well, as long as people choose to wear them, I don't really care.

 

[Cearbhall]

YES !
SERIOUS ! TRUTH ! YES !
Women closer to what YHWH says to be !
(instead of the horrible things they could be otherwise ! )

So I assume you think men are improved with a headdress, as well?

 

[cloudyday2]

No, I have not been around people like that, thank goodness. I know people who hope and pray for their family members to be saved, but don't try to harass them. There are many Christians who are afraid of pushing people away from God, so they say very little. I am this way, myself- afraid to say the wrong thing. I would hypothesize that there are more Christians who are not open with their faith than people who pretend to be Christians.

Yeah, my mother would simply worry and pray about me even more than she already does. When I was careless about some skeptical comments and she began to worry that I might a non-believer who would be going to hell, I decided to back-off and pretend. I bought a Christian coffee cup and started suggesting that we watch Christian TV when I visited her. She thinks I need to go to church somewhere, but overall she seems to be less worried. In some ways I am still a Christian. When my cat takes a nap on my stomach, I thank God for matching me up with such an excellent cat. Old habits die hard. Part of me will always be a Christian

 

[MehGuy]

Well, as long as people choose to wear them, I don't really care.

Yeah, although for many I think they'd change their hypocritical tune if white cis dudebros were behind Islam, lol.

As for me, I've always care and I'll probably always care somewhat. For many it might be a choice, but I still feel like the external pressure is oppressive and what the hijab symbolizes to be problematic and oppressive too.

 

[MehGuy]

I think you meant 'oppressed'
unless you think women dressed modestly are oppressive.

Sorry, my mind isn't very good at comprehending language. Lol.

Still sounds right to me. I guess I have less confident in myself being right with word usage than others. So..

 

[Robban]

Yeah, although for many I think they'd change their hypocritical tune if white cis dudebros were behind Islam, lol.

As for me, I've always care and I'll probably always care somewhat. For many it might be a choice, but I still feel like the external pressure is oppressive and what the hijab symbolizes to be problematic and oppressive too.

I may not know the difference but I take it a burka is one of those
total coverings (binliner) with a little peephole.

Wether they wish to don such or not, I cannot find words to describe how I feel about such.

 

[MehGuy]

I may not know the difference but I take it a burka is one of those
total coverings (binliner) with a little peephole.

Wether they wish to don such or not, I cannot find words to describe how I feel about such.

Yeah those really creep me out and disturb me.

There are a lot of Muslims where I live, plenty of them are nice. I just cannot help but feel bad for the women who wear the above. Some of them do seem to be bothered by it, although I've never actually asked them as of yet. Like some wear hijabs yet wear skin tight clothing below, like a piece of them just wanting to be free to express themselves. I'm sure they get a lot of flack with their fellow Muslims.

 

[MehGuy]

It's kinda like those people who have those confederate flags and the distaste that come from that. Some of it might be mostly well intentioned, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Robban]

Yeah those really creep me out and disturb me.

There are a lot of Muslims where I live, plenty of them are nice. I just cannot help but feel bad for the women who wear the above. Some of them do seem to be bothered by it, although I've never actually asked them as of yet. Like some wear hijabs yet wear skin tight clothing below, like a piece of them just wanting to be free to express themselves. I'm sure they get a lot of flack with their fellow Muslims.

Yeah those really creep me out and disturb me.

There are a lot of Muslims where I live, plenty of them are nice. I just cannot help but feel bad for the women who wear the above. Some of them do seem to be bothered by it, although I've never actually asked them as of yet. Like some wear hijabs yet wear skin tight clothing below, like a piece of them just wanting to be free to express themselves. I'm sure they get a lot of flack with their fellow Muslims.

I have only seen one where I live,
she may have been visiting,

Or she?

Who knows what is under all that covering?

I live in Sweden not Afganistan,
Though it has been renamed by some to Absurdistan.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I may not know the difference but I take it a burka is one of those
total coverings (binliner) with a little peephole.

Wether they wish to don such or not, I cannot find words to describe how I feel about such.

Think of robes of righteousness to wear while standing in the presence of YAHWEH ELOHIM.

 

[MehGuy]

I have only seen one where I live,
she may have been visiting,

Or she?

Who knows what is under all that covering?

I live in Sweden not Afganistan,
Though it has been renamed by some to Absurdistan.

When the wind blows in the right direction you can make out a good figure, lol.

One thing good about the head coverings, is hands free phone conversations. Many of them just stick their smart phones to their cheeks and the coverings actually hold them up.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So I assume you think men are improved with a headdress, as well?

If you knew YHWH'S instructions, you would never think that!

 

[Robban]

When the wind blows in the right direction you can make out a good figure, lol.

One thing good about the head coverings, is hands free phone conversations. Many of them just stick their smart phones to their cheeks and the coverings actually hold them up.

Haha, yeah pretty amusing.

 

[Robban]

Think of robes of righteousness to wear while standing in the presence of YAHWEH ELOHIM.

It will not be a binliner, that's for sure.

But then we have maybe different definitions.

For me, the garments of the soul are, thought, speech and deeds.

 

[Cearbhall]

If you knew YHWH'S instructions, you would never think that!

I was asking a question about what you said. You said that it brings us "closer to what YHWH says to be." Instead of "the horrible things they could be otherwise." Why wouldn't you want to get in on that?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What YHWH wants us to be is written in HIS WORD and revealed (necessarily) in spirit by Y'SHUA.
That is the only way to learn and to do what HE SAYS.
It has nothing to do with what you suggested.


What is it you want "to get in on "? (or not)

I was asking a question about what you said. You said that it brings us "closer to what YHWH says to be." Instead of "the horrible things they could be otherwise." Why wouldn't you want to get in on that?

 

[Galatea]

I get what you mean, but not everyone has the luxury to play it that way.



It's a biblical practice, they call it "rejecting", after:
Epistle to Titus 3:10 "A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject"



Well, it doesn't feel particularly judgmental for me, but it does feel like you're rigging the game by declaring everyone who's a bad apple to not be a true Christian...

In the U.S., though- I don't think anyone has to pretend to be anything else. Just being quiet about what you believe is usually sufficient to keep things smooth in the workplace. I used to work with a witch (true story- she was a Wiccan. She showed me her pentagram tattoo on her arm and everything) I didn't start evangelizing to her or talk about theology. I told her I was a Christian, but left it at that. The thing is, she brought up religion- not me. I didn't pretend, she didn't pretend and we got along fine (this is in the Bible belt of the U.S.). I don't remember anyone persecuting her at all. To my knowledge, she got along fine with everyone.

I know this is all anecdotal stuff, and may or may not be extrapolated to society as a whole. One anecdote can't do it, of course.

I think they are misinterpreting that verse, horribly. I think it means heretical teachers, not people in general. The whole book of Titus is about how preachers and church elders should conduct themselves. That was the purpose of Paul writing to Titus. The heretics are bad preachers.

There are marks of Christians, who is christian and who is Christian. Jesus talked about separating the goats from the sheep. The goats are CINO (Christian in name only) and the sheep are true believers. The biggest mark of sheep is love, having the love of Christ shed abroad in our hearts.

There are people who agree with Christianity but are not converted. This is the distinction I am making. The difference is love. Ephesians 3:17-21 "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passerh knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God. Now unto Him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, Unto Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end, Amen."

I mean to say that Christians who are converted have the love of Christ in their hearts and do not do things like ostracizing their children from turning from God, or something hateful like saying "God hates gays." Like the Westboro people are wont to do.

Another anecdote: I knew a lady, a sweet Christian whose son was homosexual. She told her son that she loved him, even though she did not agree with his lifestyle. Her son would have his boyfriend over for dinner, at Christmas, etc. He respected his mother, so did not have him as an overnight guest. Anyway, her son contracted HIV which progressed into AIDS. She nursed him in his illness, never threw him out, etc. Also, there were many Christians in this family and they never shunned him for being gay or having AIDS, or what have you. That is not what real Christians do. Now, this does not mean they didn't talk to him about getting saved, but they did not throw him away.

 

[Chesterton]

I completely agree.

Yeah, apparently not. Or at least not for the people you happen to hate.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Yeah, apparently not. Or at least not for the people you happen to hate.

I can assure you that I don't hate myself.

- A German American

 

[Chesterton]

I can assure you that I don't hate myself.

- A German American

There are self-hating peoples.