How many Christians will still vote for Trump?

As a Christian can you still vote for Trump

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The fact that Trump is even in the race will cause the powers in America to realise that keeping half the population of the US uneducated was not such a good idea after all.
An Ignorant population allows people like Trump to rise to the top.

Its more than a little ironic that the rise of Trump comes after decades of education being run by liberals.
 
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I still can't believe no one else saw the Big Ugly Satanic Fly land on Hillary's forehead during the debate last night.
If you were one of the millions of superstitious people in the US you would say that the fly was made by god, how could it be a Big Ugly Satanic Fly when Satan didn't make it?
Perhaps the fly was an emissary or a sign from God.
 
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Soooooo...a "Christian" doesn't vote?

Just wondering.....

What is a "Godly" candidate?
In elections, I vote the persons political positions, not their moral failings. We are not electing a pope or a pastor of the United States.. Clinton is out over her unrestricted access to abortions position and her wanting to destroy all fossil fuel use. Which I am certain she will try to boost our energy costs. And all those lies and scandals of all the years, including Benghazi and blaming it all on a movie.
 
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If you were one of the millions of superstitious people in the US you would say that the fly was made by god, how could it be a Big Ugly Satanic Fly when Satan didn't make it?
Perhaps the fly was an emissary or a sign from God.
Or maybe it was just a bug who neeed to take a breather....
 
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"The main reason behind successful immigration should be painfully obvious to even the most dimwitted of observers: Some groups of people are almost always highly successful given only half a chance (Jews, Hindus/Sikhs and Chinese people, for example), while others (Muslims, blacks and Roma, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances."

Racist Hillary in her leaked emails.
 
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The fact that Trump is even in the race will cause the powers in America to realise that keeping half the population of the US uneducated was not such a good idea after all.
An Ignorant population allows people like Trump to rise to the top.

Nobody is keeping any body from education. People have a choice to fact check or drink the cool aid. I know some very "educated" people who are knowingly ignoring facts and choosing to believe the swan song that Trump is selling.
 
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Nobody is keeping any body from education. People have a choice to fact check or drink the cool aid.
Very true. I know some very "educated" people who are knowingly ignoring facts and choosing to believe the swan song that Hillary is selling. In fact, some even deny that she violated federal law and should have been prosecuted.
 
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how could it be a Big Ugly Satanic Fly when Satan didn't make it?

That's a very deep question. All I know is that I researched it on-line and found three Christian web sites devoted to the subject of Satanic flies, conversations on twitter about it, and five Bible quotes mentioning flies as being a sign of the Devil. It's so much a part of our culture, flies were used in the Hollywood movie "The Omen" to portray the presence of Satan.

Apparently other insects are identified in the Bible as portents of evil as well. Locusts and bees for instance. Frogs are similarly vilified as being "unclean creatures" associated with demons, (Revelation 16:13). I don't know why the Devil would be inclined to use one animal over another to torment mankind, but there is plenty of biblical evidence he favors certain beasts like the "jackal" for instance, which receives numerous mentions in the Old Testament as a portent of war and coming destruction. The "jackal" was featured in the Exorcist sequels, (substituted for the much more fierce looking hyena for dramatic effect). Because of their history of service in Roman Legions as attack dogs, In the Omen movies, Rottweiler dogs were portrayed as minions of the Devil. Black cats are also associated with witchcraft according to superstition, but I don't think there is any direct biblical evidence that Rottweilers or black cats are evil.

I don't think God can be held personally responsible for how Lucifer or fallen angels (demons) use the animal kingdom to accomplish injury to humans, or mankind himself for that matter. This is a general theology question better suited to that particular forum.

I hope everyone has enjoyed this brief intermission from all the political vitriol, nevertheless, a Satanic fly did land on Hillary Clinton's forehead at the beginning of the last presidential debate. Lol.
 
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"tactics remind me of 1930s fascists" does not equal what my idea of fascism is. Please attempt to correctly read my statements in the future.
Are we entering into the "save face" phase of an argument? Personally, I don't see any reason for that.
 
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Brinny if Fox news says it you will believe it, you have been lied to for most of your life.

Believe or not people can come to their own conclusions without Fox. We have a choice between a cad and a criminal. I'm personally struggling with this election, and I don't need Fox or anyone else to help me. I'm more than capable of doing this on my own.

I have never liked Trump, and I have never liked Clinton. I didn't vote for her husband either. I just couldn't vote for someone that their own family couldn't trust him, and claims they want mine. If they can't trust him - how can I?

We have two people in it for the power. When I see their junk about how can someone vote for (insert your current enemy)? I wonder how they can confidentially vote for the other.

Our system isn't setup to get anyone that could do a decent job, because everyone has skeletons in their closet. That's all the media is interested in, and make sure to push the emotional aspect to that - and that shows qualifications just don't count.

They said she is qualified, but I view her as a criminal - convicted or not. Just like I do OJ Simpson when he came to his wife Nicole.

To me Trump is the Democrats Harry Reed. I can't stand Harry Reed for to many reasons to count.

So, to me it is down to a Cad or a Criminal. No good choices, and thus the struggle.
 
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Believe or not people can come to their own conclusions without Fox. We have a choice between a cad and a criminal. I'm personally struggling with this election, and I don't need Fox or anyone else to help me. I'm more than capable of doing this on my own.

I have never liked Trump, and I have never liked Clinton. I didn't vote for her husband either. I just couldn't vote for someone that their own family couldn't trust him, and claims they want mine. If they can't trust him - how can I?

We have two people in it for the power. When I see their junk about how can someone vote for (insert your current enemy)? I wonder how they can confidentially vote for the other.

Our system isn't setup to get anyone that could do a decent job, because everyone has skeletons in their closet. That's all the media is interested in, and make sure to push the emotional aspect to that - and that shows qualifications just don't count.

They said she is qualified, but I view her as a criminal - convicted or not. Just like I do OJ Simpson when he came to his wife Nicole.

To me Trump is the Democrats Harry Reed. I can't stand Harry Reed for to many reasons to count.

So, to me it is down to a Cad or a Criminal. No good choices, and thus the struggle.
In fairness, Trump is a criminal, too. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet he's been found against in court more times than Hillary.
 
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Believe or not people can come to their own conclusions without Fox. We have a choice between a cad and a criminal. I'm personally struggling with this election, and I don't need Fox or anyone else to help me. I'm more than capable of doing this on my own.

I have never liked Trump, and I have never liked Clinton. I didn't vote for her husband either. I just couldn't vote for someone that their own family couldn't trust him, and claims they want mine. If they can't trust him - how can I?

We have two people in it for the power. When I see their junk about how can someone vote for (insert your current enemy)? I wonder how they can confidentially vote for the other.

Our system isn't setup to get anyone that could do a decent job, because everyone has skeletons in their closet. That's all the media is interested in, and make sure to push the emotional aspect to that - and that shows qualifications just don't count.

They said she is qualified, but I view her as a criminal - convicted or not. Just like I do OJ Simpson when he came to his wife Nicole.

To me Trump is the Democrats Harry Reed. I can't stand Harry Reed for to many reasons to count.

So, to me it is down to a Cad or a Criminal. No good choices, and thus the struggle.
I am voting for Trump because he is the only other one who has a chance at winning, and quite frankly since I did not trust them before I surely am not going to trust Hillery after she released the tape because even if true he was not convicted, AND the fact that they released it 31 days BEFORE the election just does not go well with me. If they were releasing it to show he was unfit for president release it sooner. The later you release something the more it looks like you are doing it to ruin the other person rather than to show you are better suited for the job.
 
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In fairness, Trump is a criminal, too. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet he's been found against in court more times than Hillary.
No, no. The word is not used in Hillary's case in the same manner as NeverTrump people throw words against him like insane, idiot, bigot, warmonger, anti-Christ, racist, etc....You know, something said just for effect.
 
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Okay. Two criminals - doesn't make the struggle any better though.
Sadly, it's a "lesser of two evils" situation. But that said, criminal cad with no political knowledge is worse than a corrupt criminal who at least knows the system. Frankly I have trouble understanding how anyone could think otherwise.
 
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I still can't believe no one else saw the Big Ugly Satanic Fly land on Hillary's forehead during the debate last night. BTW, I don't know who added the Obama tag to my post above, but I don't appreciate it, nor do I endorse it.
#you didn't hear it from me:

Washington University Campus Police reported the alleged Hillary fly was found dead Monday morning of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. An open bottle of Trump Vodka and a partially consumed Trump Steak were found nearby, according to an unnamed source. Toxicology results are pending.
 
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That's a very deep question. All I know is that I researched it on-line and found three Christian web sites devoted to the subject of Satanic flies, conversations on twitter about it, and five Bible quotes mentioning flies as being a sign of the Devil. It's so much a part of our culture, flies were used in the Hollywood movie "The Omen" to portray the presence of Satan.

Apparently other insects are identified in the Bible as portents of evil as well. Locusts and bees for instance. Frogs are similarly vilified as being "unclean creatures" associated with demons, (Revelation 16:13). I don't know why the Devil would be inclined to use one animal over another to torment mankind, but there is plenty of biblical evidence he favors certain beasts like the "jackal" for instance, which receives numerous mentions in the Old Testament as a portent of war and coming destruction. The "jackal" was featured in the Exorcist sequels, (substituted for the much more fierce looking hyena for dramatic effect). Because of their history of service in Roman Legions as attack dogs, In the Omen movies, Rottweiler dogs were portrayed as minions of the Devil. Black cats are also associated with witchcraft according to superstition, but I don't think there is any direct biblical evidence that Rottweilers or black cats are evil.

I don't think God can be held personally responsible for how Lucifer or fallen angels (demons) use the animal kingdom to accomplish injury to humans, or mankind himself for that matter. This is a general theology question better suited to that particular forum.

I hope everyone has enjoyed this brief intermission from all the political vitriol, nevertheless, a Satanic fly did land on Hillary Clinton's forehead at the beginning of the last presidential debate. Lol.


Good post;
Satan as the prince of demons is referred to in Scripture as Beelzebub, meaning "Lord of the flies" .
BTW, they feast on human & animal excrement.
 
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So, to me it is down to a Cad or a Criminal. No good choices, and thus the struggle.
I can give you three good reasons.
1. The Supreme Court. We need conservative judges, and like him or hate him Trump will nominate a conservative.
2. Mike Pence. Trump has already said the VP will likely have more authority than any other because like all good businessmen Trump surrounds himself with experts and simply makes decisions based on their expertise. Pence will be more the ambassador.
3. The rule of law. Trump will appoint people who will enforce the rule of law. Since he isn't a politician and has not long standing loyalties, these authority figures are likely to hold him to the same standard as everyone else. Don't think he'll get a pass if he steps outside the lines. He doesn't have that kind of political clout.
 
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