How many Christians will still vote for Trump?

As a Christian can you still vote for Trump

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    Votes: 22 53.7%

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The Republican candidate is a crass man devoid of manners.

"For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people." (2 Timothy 3:2-5)

If you think Trump (and the modern Republican party which cheers him on) even remotely fits Biblical principles I suggest you read your Bible again...

In Trumps defense, I will say "locker room" talk about women in our culture here in America is pretty common place. I heard one ABC commentator say he never heard any talk like that in any locker room he had ever been in. I'm not sure what planet he lives on.

I was a fire captain for eight years... the stuff I heard would burn your ears and disgust just about any decent person. I remember one incident in particular, when all the firemen at station four were watching a daytime soap opera in which a gal was thrown onto a bed and being forcibly sexually assaulted. All the firemen were jumping up and down laughing and cheering and making lewd remarks. This was one week after my wife had been brutally beaten and raped while closing a fast food restaurant by herself at night.

When I stepped out my office and looked at them they all froze and hanged their heads in shame. I had to remind myself I had seen every one of these guys rush into a burning house to save someone. I told them, I don't hold anything against any of you, you're just being a bunch of naughty boys.

As part of my belief as a Christian, I forgive those who trespass against me. I believe this is required of all Christians. So although I don't condone The Donald's lewd behavior... I can certainly forgive him for it.
 
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In Trumps defense, I will say "locker room" talk about women in our culture here in America is pretty common place. I heard one ABC commentator say he never heard any talk like that in any locker room he had ever been in. I'm not sure what planet he lives on.

I was a fire captain for eight years... the stuff I heard would burn your ears and disgust just about any decent person. I remember one incident in particular, when all the firemen at station four were watching a daytime soap opera in which a gal was thrown onto a bed and being forcibly sexually assaulted. All the firemen were jumping up and down laughing and cheering and making lewd remarks. This was one week after my wife had been brutally beaten and raped while closing a fast food restaurant by herself at night. When I stepped out my office and looked at them they all froze and hanged their heads in shame. I told them, I don't hold anything against any of you, your just being a bunch of naughty boys.

As part of my belief as a Christian, I forgive those who trespass against me. I believe this is required of all Christians. So although I don't condone The Donald's lewd behavior... I can certainly forgive him for it.

The difference is that Trump wasn't just saying things, which would have been bad enough, he was describing what he had actually DONE.

Beyond which, forgiveness is for the repentant, Stephen.

Nothing in Trumps manner, nor his lack of manners, gives me cause to think any such thing of him. He reminds me in many ways of Bill Clinton but with more money and less press-sense, and I certainly could not vote for Bill.
 
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I still can't believe no one else saw the Big Ugly Satanic Fly land on Hillary's forehead during the debate last night. BTW, I don't know who added the Obama tag to my post above, but I don't appreciate it, nor do I endorse it.
 
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In Trumps defense, I will say "locker room" talk about women in our culture here in America is pretty common place. I heard one ABC commentator say he never heard any talk like that in any locker room he had ever been in. I'm not sure what planet he lives on.
Trump was 60 years old when he said it so it wasn't "locker room" talk, the man is an idiot and an embarrassment to America.
The rest of the world does not understand why Trump is allowed to be in the position he is in, thick as a plank and trying to be the next president, what kind of people would vote for a misfit like him?
 
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Beyond which, forgiveness is for the repentant, Stephen.

I believe the Gospel says to "Love our enemies".. "judge not lest you be judged, and "forgive those who trespass against us". I don't read anything in those principles about limiting it only to those who repent. Might want to give that Bible another read and stop trying to use it to spread unbiblical and hate filled propaganda, which I gather from your posts is your "forte".
 
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Nope, check things out for yourself....there is plenty of info available on both candidates and their parties. However, if all a person does is listen to msnbc ( or insert name) and excludes those things that don't agree with what they say then you end up with tunnel vision.
Yes. It can be seen clearly.
CLEARLY.
 
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I still can't believe no one else saw the Big Ugly Satanic Fly land on Hillary's forehead during the debate last night. BTW, I don't know who added the Obama tag to my post above, but I don't appreciate it, nor do I endorse it.
It was not a fly, but a nano-drone injecting an updated chip into the cyborg Clinton to keep her upright and ward off the malfunctions seen last month. One injection to the forehead for the motherboard and a second into the chest plate to upgrade the power pack. I am surprised no one at Notso Breitbart picked up on it.

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I believe the Gospel says to "Love our enemies".. "judge not lest you be judged, and "forgive those who trespass against us". I don't read anything in those principles about limiting it only to those who repent. Might want to give that Bible another read and stop trying to use it to spread unbiblical and hate filled propaganda, which I gather from your posts is your "forte".

You'll also find it saying "judge righteously" and the whole of 2 Timothy 3:1-5

Might want to stop accusing me of spreading hate filled propaganda when I point out what it says.
 
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I still can't believe no one else saw the Big Ugly Satanic Fly land on Hillary's forehead during the debate last night. BTW, I don't know who added the Obama tag to my post above, but I don't appreciate it, nor do I endorse it.

LOL!
 
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Trump was 60 years old when he said it so it wasn't "locker room" talk, the man is an idiot and an embarrassment to America.
The rest of the world does not understand why Trump is allowed to be in the position he is in, thick as a plank and trying to be the next president, what kind of people would vote for a misfit like him?
Those who (1) think that we need someone who'll change the nation's direction before the USA becomes a third world country, and (2) realize that Clinton has neither the interest nor the ability to do that.

If you think everything is going just swell in the country right now--and 28% of the American people do think that--then I understand completely why you'd think Clinton is the one to vote for.
 
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Those who (1) think that we need someone who'll change the nation's direction before the USA becomes a third world country,
He will make it a third world country or another Russia where his opponents are all locked up.
and (2) realize that Clinton has neither the interest nor the ability to do that.
She would not do as much damage to the US in her first term as Trump would do in the first month.
If you think everything is going just swell in the country right now--and 28% of the American people do think that--then I understand completely why you'd think Clinton is the one to vote for.
America is in a much better state now than when President Obama took office.

The Republicans will not get back into office for a very very long time, especially when they are prepared to vote into office a fully fledged scam artist and sleaze ball like Trump.
 
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Those who (1) think that we need someone who'll change the nation's direction before the USA becomes a third world country, and (2) realize that Clinton has neither the interest nor the ability to do that.
So, for the record then: Do you believe that if Clinton gets elected, that the United States of America WILL be a third world country (commonly referred to as "developing nation") by the end of her tenure as president?
 
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He will make it a third world country or another Russia where his opponents are all locked up.
Is that supposed to impress me? I've already read other out-of-control posters here call him Hitler, Mussolini, the anti-Christ...and you think that I'm seriously going to think twice about something as lame as this??
 
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