Do I have to celebrate Roshashona and Yum Kipur (might've spelled that wrong lol)

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I'm saying what Paul already said in Galatians 5:1-2 (the text of which I quoted below)

There is a difference between Paul saying that the law should not be obeyed incorrectly and saying that the law sometimes shouldn't be obeyed. During his day there was a widespread misunderstanding that the law was about what you need to do in order to become justified and he spilled much ink to drive home the point that the law is not about that and that we are justified by faith apart from the law. Sadly this error is still widespread today with the main difference being that we have compounded the error by concluding that therefore we don't need to obey the law. Moses was justified by faith apart from the law, so the law was never needed nor given for that purpose and it does not follow that because we shouldn't obey the law for a purpose for which it was never given that therefore we shouldn't obey the law for the purposes for which it was given.

If you have faith in your doctor, then you will follow their prescription and if you have faith in God, then you will follow His commands. In Deuteronomy 10:13, God said that what He commanded was for His people's own good, so His people demonstrating that they have faith that what God said is true through living in obedience to His commands is the way to live by faith. Living by faith does not refer to demonstrating that you don't trust God enough to follow His instructions for how to rightly live.

It has never been obedience itself to God's instructions that has justified us, but rather we are justified by the faith that leads us to follow those instructions. We are not to obey God's law in order to become justified, but because we have been justified, and because the law is God's instructions to those He has justified by faith for how to live by faith. We are saved by grace through faith not by doing the good works that God has instructed, but for the purpose of doing good works by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-10).

So is God pleased when we keep His Sabbath on the 7th day? Absolutely! It demonstrates that we have enough faith in Him to follow His instructions and God is pleased by our faith.

According to Romans 1:1, Philippians 1:1, and Titus 1:1, Paul identified as a slave of Christ. According to 1 Peter 2:16, we are free men, but we are not to use our freedom for evil, but rather to become bondslaves of God. According to Ephesians 6:6, we are to be slaves of Christ. According to 1 Corinthians 7:22 being free in the Lord is equated with being a slave of Christ. According to Romans 6:16-19, we have been set free from slavery to sin in order to become slaves of obedience leading to righteousness and slaves of righteousness leading to sanctification. According to 1 Corinthians 6:19 we are not our own, but are brought with a price. You talk about slavery to pleasing God as though it is a bad thing to seek to please the God that you serve.

Everything listed in Galatians 5:19-23 as being against the Spirit is against what the Mosaic law teaches and everything listed as being fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with what it teaches, which should come as no surprise because the law was given by God and the Spirit is God. Indeed, the Spirit has the role of leading us in obedience to the law (Ezekiel 36:26-27).

It is a cry out from the Jews, however, God's response to it follows in Isaiah 65:1-7, 11-15 and can be interpreted as God explaining that those "good deeds" referred to in chapter 64 were indeed worthless. Paul echos this in Romans 10:20-21.

Those verses are talking about their iniquity, not their obedience. Does it really make sense to you that God would give commands and then be displeased when they were obeyed, especially when throughout the Bible God has consistently wanted His people to repent and turn from our disobedience back to obedience? Do you think God wants us to obey Him or not?
 
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So is God pleased when we keep His Sabbath on the 7th day? Absolutely! It demonstrates that we have enough faith in Him to follow His instructions and God is pleased by our faith.
Christians usually keep the Sabbath on the 1st day, not the 7th, as God commanded. How is it that you say God is pleased that we keep the Sabbath when we are violating the Law to keep it? If it is because we are keeping the spirit of the Law rather than the letter of the Law, should you be promoting the keeping of "the Law" rather than keeping the spirit of the Law? If the latter, then what role does the letter of the Law have, since the letter of the Law has been fulfilled for us by Jesus.
You talk about slavery to pleasing God as though it is a bad thing to seek to please the God that you serve.
I never said seeking to please God was bad. I only meant that seeking to please God by the actions of keeping the Law is done in vain.

You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:“ ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’” (Matthew 15:7-9, 1984 NIV)

The Jews were keeping rules made by men and not keeping the commands of God. The problem was their hearts were far from God. As such, keeping the commands of God would not be enough if their hearts were still far from God.
Does it really make sense to you that God would give commands and then be displeased when they were obeyed, especially when throughout the Bible God has consistently wanted His people to repent and turn from our disobedience back to obedience? Do you think God wants us to obey Him or not?
God does want us to obey him, but it cannot be done the way you promote.

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8:1-4, 1984 NIV)

Obeying the Law to please God has never been possible. Our obedience is tainted by the sinful nature. Living by faith and not works does not mean keeping the Law by faith. Keeping the Law is powerless. It is faith that pleases God.

Or haven’t you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent? I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. (Matthew 12:5-7, 1984 NIV)

For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. (Romans 7:5-6, 1984 NIV)

We are slaves to the love God puts into our hearts, not slaves to any particular actions or methods to please God. Obeying the love in one's heart is what God wants of us. Jesus' yoke is easy and his burden is light. His commands are not burdensome. It is through the Law that we become conscious of sin, but that does not mean we are commanded to keep the Law. In Christ, we already succeeded in that, and it is complete.

Well, I've said enough. I think you are missing the message of Galatians and promoting keeping the Law as a way to please God, when in fact, the only way to please God is to have a heart for God resulting in living by the Spirit of love. It is not something we can "do," it is something that God grants us. The reason keeping the Law can please God is because of our hearts, not because we are keeping the Law. One can't keep the Law to please God. One with a heart for God will seek to please God in whatever way the Spirit leads.

The Good News could be stated as "God is pleased with you, but not because of what you have done, but because of what Jesus has done."
 
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I've only VERY recently accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. And, to be honest, I really don't want to celebrate these holidays, but I don't actually even know if I have to or not

I kinda just want to follow the same standards that any Christian would. Does being born Jewish mean that I have to obey a different set of rules? Because I really, really don't want to observe these holidays.

New Year and Day of Atonement. Why you don't like these pretty nice holidays? I think they are full of meaning, joy or sadness.

Those apples with honey are great!!!
 
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Parogar said:
I've only VERY recently accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.
Welcome to the family of God through Jesus Christ.
Parogar said:
And, to be honest, I really don't want to celebrate these holidays, but I don't actually even know if I have to or not
Nothing in the Bible says it is required. Nor is any 'Holy Day' mandatory to be celebrated in the mainstream.

There are a couple of denominations which 'mandate' certain celebrations, but they are not universally so held.

Parogar said:
I kinda just want to follow the same standards that any Christian would.
Excellent thought, but that sort of thinking can lead into some erroneous practices. For instance, if you join yourself to a sub-group who forbid wearing 'blue jeans' for instance. (I don't know of any, that was something I thought wouldn't step on anyone's feelings.) Blue jeans are not evil; perhaps not the best for wearing to a formal dinner, but not evil.

Parogar said:
Does being born Jewish mean that I have to obey a different set of rules?
Absolutely not! Paul says in Galatians 3:26 to 29

3:26 For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith. 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female – for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to the promise.

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Because I really, really don't want to observe these holidays.
Then don't. If you feel the need to observe them to maintain good relations with your family or you see them as 'cultural' rather than spiritual events, then go ahead; it won't hurt you at all. If you so desire, you can even eat pork! But you don't have to.
 
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Christians usually keep the Sabbath on the 1st day, not the 7th, as God commanded. How is it that you say God is pleased that we keep the Sabbath when we are violating the Law to keep it? If it is because we are keeping the spirit of the Law rather than the letter of the Law, should you be promoting the keeping of "the Law" rather than keeping the spirit of the Law? If the latter, then what role does the letter of the Law have, since the letter of the Law has been fulfilled for us by Jesus.

I never said seeking to please God was bad. I only meant that seeking to please God by the actions of keeping the Law is done in vain.

You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:“ ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’” (Matthew 15:7-9, 1984 NIV)

The Jews were keeping rules made by men and not keeping the commands of God. The problem was their hearts were far from God. As such, keeping the commands of God would not be enough if their hearts were still far from God.

The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine admits that the Sabbath is Saturday and that transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday at the Council of Laodicea in 336 AD, but they were never given authority to change God's commands, and trying to do so was a sin (Deuteronomy 4:2). You cited Matthew 15:7-9, where Jesus was criticizing the Pharisees for setting aside the commands of God in order to follow their own traditions, and that is essentially what Catholics have done with setting aside God command to keep the Sabbath on the 7th day in order to follow their own tradition. There is nothing wrong with worshipping God on Sunday, just as there was nothing wrong with many of the Pharisees' traditions, but the problem is, and where it becomes are heart issue is where we set aside the commands of God in order to follow our own those traditions.

If a husband wants to give a gift to his wife and his heart is in the right place, then he shouldn't seek to give her something that he would be happy to receive, but rather he should seek to give her something that she has said she wants. If husbands shouldn't treat their wives that way, how much more shouldn't we treat God that way? Do you think that God would have been pleased if the builders of the temple had felt free to build it in whatever way they wanted because they decided that all God really wanted was just a temple? God gave specific commands for how to worship Him because He wants to be worshipped in a specific way and He gave commands not to worship Him in the same way as the pagans worshipped their gods because He has specific ways that He does not want to be worshipped. If our heart is in the right place, then our attitude should not be that we can worship God in any way that we want and that He should be happy with what He gets, but rather we should seek to worship God in the way that He has instructed us to worship Him. Submitting to God's law has always been about drawing close to God, so I agree that keeping His commands while our hearts are far from Him would be worshipping Him in vain, but that does not mean that seeking to please God by obeying His law as intended is done in vain.

Every Sabbath in a synagogue, a rabbi would take a Torah scroll to Moses' seat and fulfill the law by interpreting it and teaching how to understand it. In Galatians 5:14, it says that loving your neighbor fulfills the entire law, so it is something everyone since Moses who has ever loved their neighbor has done. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, then proceeded to fulfill it six times by teaching how to correctly understand how to obey it, so fulfilling the law does not refer to something unique that Jesus did to do away with the law. The same word is used in Romans 15:18-19 in regard to Paul fulfilling the gospel and nobody interprets that as Paul doing away with it. In Romans 7:14, Paul said that the law is spiritual, so it has always been intended to teach us spiritual principles of which the written laws are examples. Just as meeting a higher standard necessarily includes meeting a lower standard, following this spiritual principles necessarily includes following the written laws, so someone has not correctly understood a spiritual principle if it leads them away from obeying the written law.

God does want us to obey him, but it cannot be done the way you promote.

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8:1-4, 1984 NIV)

Obeying the Law to please God has never been possible. Our obedience is tainted by the sinful nature. Living by faith and not works does not mean keeping the Law by faith. Keeping the Law is powerless. It is faith that pleases God.

Nowhere does it say that we need to obey God's law perfectly in order to please Him, but rather God is pleased by every act of faith in obedience to Him. It is true that we can't perfectly keep the law through our own effort, but with God nothing is impossible. Or do you think that causing His people to obey His law is the one thing beyond God's power to accomplish? In Hebrews 8:7-8, God found fault with the Mosaic Covenant, but the fault was not with His law or with the terms of the covenant, but with the hardness of His people's hearts. So rather than lowering His righteous standard so that anyone could meet it simply by subscribing to a short list of beliefs about Jesus, God's solution was to raise us up so that we could meet His standard. So God made a New Covenant where he would take away our hearts of stone, give us hearts of flesh, send His Spirit to cause us to obey it (Ezekiel 36:26-27), write His law on our hearts so that we would obey it (Jeremiah 31:33), and send His Son to free us from sin that that we would be free to obey His law all so that we might meet its righteous requirement (Romans 8:3-4). Our sanctification is about being made to be like Christ in being completely obedient to the law by faith as he was.

Or haven’t you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent? I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent.
(Matthew 12:5-7, 1984 NIV)

Why do you think that God commanded sacrifices if He didn't want them? The word for "offering" literally means "to draw close", so if you make offerings without drawing close to God, then you are completely missing the point and are acting in vain.

For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
(Romans 7:5-6, 1984 NIV)

In Romans 7:12-25, Paul said that God's law is holy, righteous, and good, that it was the good he sought to do and delighted in doing, but contrasted that with a law of sin that stirred up sin and caused him not to do the good that he wanted to do. So when we were controlled by the sinful nature, we were under the law of sin, and it is not God's law that stirs up sinful passions, but the law of sin. We were not in bondage to God's instructions for how to do what is holy, righteous, and good against our will, but rather it was the sinful nature that caused us not to do the good that we wanted to do that we were in bondage to, and Paul specified that we died to and were released from what bound us. This fits with the example from the law in Romans 7:1-4, where the woman was never given the freedom to transgress any of God's laws, but rather she was only set free from what would have condemned her if she had lived with another man while her husband was still alive. In the same way, we have not been set free from obeying God, but from condemnation for our disobedience to God, which is the point he was concluding from in Romans 8:1.

We are slaves to the love God puts into our hearts, not slaves to any particular actions or methods to please God. Obeying the love in one's heart is what God wants of us. Jesus' yoke is easy and his burden is light. His commands are not burdensome. It is through the Law that we become conscious of sin, but that does not mean we are commanded to keep the Law. In Christ, we already succeeded in that, and it is complete.

In Deuteronomy 30:11, God said that His commands were not too difficult and 1 John 5:3 confirms that they are not burdensome, yet it seems like you want contrast Jesus' yoke with God's law when they are one in the same. Jesus taught to obey God's law both by word and by example, so he practiced what he preached and preached what he practiced, and he practiced perfect obedience to God's law, so that is what he commanded, and that is the example that we are told to follow. A rabbi's yoke was the way that they taught to obey God's law and Jesus was contrasting his way of obeying the law with the way that the Pharisees taught to obey the law as being a heavy burden (Matthew 23:3). When Jesus said in Matthew 11:28-30 that his way is the way that they will find rest for their souls, he was making reference to Jeremiah 6:16-19:

16 Thus says the Lord: “Stand by the roads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ 17 I set watchmen over you, saying, ‘Pay attention to the sound of the trumpet!’ But they said, ‘We will not pay attention.’ 18 Therefore hear, O nations, and know, O congregation, what will happen to them. 19 Hear, O earth; behold, I am bringing disaster upon this people, the fruit of their devices, because they have not paid attention to my words; and as for my law, they have rejected it.

Well, I've said enough. I think you are missing the message of Galatians and promoting keeping the Law as a way to please God, when in fact, the only way to please God is to have a heart for God resulting in living by the Spirit of love. It is not something we can "do," it is something that God grants us. The reason keeping the Law can please God is because of our hearts, not because we are keeping the Law. One can't keep the Law to please God. One with a heart for God will seek to please God in whatever way the Spirit leads.

Galatians was only speaking against obeying the law in order to become justified, not against obeying the law to please God. The law was given as instructions for how to live in a way that is pleasing to God by faith, not as instructions for what to do in order to become justified. If someone is living by the Spirit of love, then they are also living in obedience to the law because the Spirit leads us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27)

The Good News could be stated as "God is pleased with you, but not because of what you have done, but because of what Jesus has done."

The Gospel of the Kingdom is to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, not that you are good as you are.
 
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Welcome to the family of God through Jesus Christ.Nothing in the Bible says it is required. Nor is any 'Holy Day' mandatory to be celebrated in the mainstream.

There are a couple of denominations which 'mandate' certain celebrations, but they are not universally so held.

Excellent thought, but that sort of thinking can lead into some erroneous practices. For instance, if you join yourself to a sub-group who forbid wearing 'blue jeans' for instance. (I don't know of any, that was something I thought wouldn't step on anyone's feelings.) Blue jeans are not evil; perhaps not the best for wearing to a formal dinner, but not evil.

Absolutely not! Paul says in Galatians 3:26 to 29

3:26 For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith. 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female – for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to the promise.

Then don't. If you feel the need to observe them to maintain good relations with your family or you see them as 'cultural' rather than spiritual events, then go ahead; it won't hurt you at all. If you so desire, you can even eat pork! But you don't have to.

In 1 Peter 1:14-16, we are told to have a holy conduct, not to be like Jews or because we are under the Old Covenant, but because God is holy, so following God's instructions for how to have a holy conduct is about identifying with God's holiness. Furthermore, verse 16 is a reference to Leviticus where God was giving those instructions, such as Leviticus 19:2-3, and it should be pretty straightforward that the way to have a holy conduct involves keeping God's holy days. In Galatians 3:26, Paul was not denying the obvious fact that there are people who are Jews, Greeks, slaves, free, male, and female, but rather he was denying that any had special status when it came to being in Christ. God has revealed that it is a sin to eat pork, so you should not encourage anyone to sin.
 
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You are preaching a gospel of obedience, which is not Good News and not what Paul preached. Including our past discussions, my goal has always been to address your heart, not your mind. I have disagreed with very little of your reasoning from Scripture. In fact, your last couple of posts have impressed me with your knowledge of Scripture. But the perspective in your posts isn't from the heart of love and acceptance that God has for you. I have never said it is OK to disobey God, nor have I ever meant that we shouldn't keep his commands. However, it was not a new command from God to love one another, so when Jesus said,

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. (John 13:34, 1984 NIV)

it was a statement of something that overrides all of the Law, IMO. One of the ways Jesus showed us "As I have loved you" was go to eat with sinners. He accepted them as they were.

The following verse confirms this:

By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:35, 1984 NIV)

To be a follower of Christ means to love one another. It means to have a heart that wants to give food to the hungry. However, we must recognize and believe that we can't give ourselves that heart. We are entirely dependent on the grace of God. The whole measure of sanctification is to put the love of God into our hearts. It alters every aspect of who we are, including who we are in eternity. It is what God grants when we love with the tiny bit of love we have. (We all have at least a shred having been made in his image.) For some people loving with that little shred is so difficult that we turn to doing things on our own to please God.

For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. (Romans 7:5-6, 1984 NIV)

I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? ... Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard? (Galatians 3:2, 5, 1984 NIV)

A person that is living to please God through keeping the Law is not living by faith. (That does not mean he doesn't have to be obedient.)

For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. (Galatians 2:19, 1984 NIV)

... “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own sons or from others?” “From others,” Peter answered. “Then the sons are exempt,” Jesus said to him. (Matthew 17:25b-26, 1984 NIV)

We are exempt from owing God anything. In fact, in Christ he has given us everything (1 Corinthians 3:21-23).

So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir. ... But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? (Galatians 4:9, 1984 NIV) (bold mine, Galatians 4:7, 9, 1984 NIV)

You are resisting accepting that living by the new way of the Spirit by the grace of God has nothing to do with the Law. The Law is as an expression of God's nature and shows us how the spiritual universe works, and when it comes to the Word in the Law, it will never pass away. However, it is gone for those saved in the sense that it cannot be kept to please God—it never did; it was the heart of people keeping the Law that could. Without a knowledge of the Law the ancient Jews would not have known how to express their love for God in ways God wanted.

In Christ, we have kept the whole Law to please God, past, present, and future. Loving God has replaced living according to the Law. Expressing one's genuine love for the Lord, however small the act is, far surpasses succeeding in keeping God's commands with an "I will keep God's commands to please him" mindset. If someone wants to buy a flower and put it out to display it to the Lord, they shall certainly not lose their reward, whereas keeping the whole Law may not even come close to that gift (depending on the person's heart).

What Paul writes in Galatians 2:18 applies to trying to please God by keeping his commands:

If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. (Galatians 2:18, 1984 NIV)

The bottom line is this: if one tries to please God by keeping part of the Law, he can only fail, and furthermore, his acts are worthless. We are entirely dependent upon God to be able to please him. Our actions count for nothing. The actions confirm and complete what is in the heart, but it is our hearts that God wants.

If someone sees that you are living to please God by obeying the Law, they will not be inviting you to their house like the sinners invited Jesus. Rather people invited Jesus to their house because he preached the Good News that God had forgiven them their sins. End of story. They didn't need to do anything further. (Their rejoicing demonstrates they believed what Jesus had said.)
 
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You are preaching a gospel of obedience, which is not Good News and not what Paul preached. Including our past discussions, my goal has always been to address your heart, not your mind. I have disagreed with very little of your reasoning from Scripture. In fact, your last couple of posts have impressed me with your knowledge of Scripture. But the perspective in your posts isn't from the heart of love and acceptance that God has for you. I have never said it is OK to disobey God, nor have I ever meant that we shouldn't keep his commands.

Romans 15:18-19 For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to bring the Gentiles to obedience—by word and deed, 19 by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God—so that from Jerusalem and all the way around to Illyricum I have fulfilled the ministry of the gospel of Christ;

This looks to me a lot like these verses are saying that Paul preached of gospel of obedience to the Gentiles-by word and deed. Jesus was telling people to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, so repenting from our disobedience to the law and turning back to obedience to it is a central part of the gospel message. There are 1,050 commands in the NT, a large portion of which were given by Paul, so clearly he thought obedience was very important. According to 1 Peter 1:14-16, 1 John 3:10, and Ephesians 2:10, we are told to obey what God has instructed to be holy, righteous, and good. According to Titus 2:11-14, our salvation involves being trained by God's grace to do what God has revealed to be godly, righteous, and good, and being trained to renounce doing what God has revealed to be ungodly, sinful, and lawless, so our salvation involves being trained by grace to obey God. According to Romans 1:5, we have received grace to bring about the obedience of faith.

However, it was not a new command from God to love one another, so when Jesus said,

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. (John 13:34, 1984 NIV)

it was a statement of something that overrides all of the Law, IMO. One of the ways Jesus showed us "As I have loved you" was go to eat with sinners. He accepted them as they were.

The following verse confirms this:

By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:35, 1984 NIV)

To be a follower of Christ means to love one another. It means to have a heart that wants to give food to the hungry. However, we must recognize and believe that we can't give ourselves that heart. We are entirely dependent on the grace of God. The whole measure of sanctification is to put the love of God into our hearts. It alters every aspect of who we are, including who we are in eternity. It is what God grants when we love with the tiny bit of love we have. (We all have at least a shred having been made in his image.) For some people loving with that little shred is so difficult that we turn to doing things on our own to please God.

According to Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from God's law, so if Jesus had added a brand new law, then he would have sinned and been disqualified from being our Savior. However, there is nothing brand new about the command to love one another because it is found in Leviticus 19:18, but what was new about his command was the quality of the example by which we are to love, and indeed the Greek word for "new" refers to newness with respect to quality rather than with respect to time. A good verse to illustrate this difference is Matthew 19:17, where it uses two different Greek words for "new", so it is talking about brand new wine being put into wineskins that have been restored.

Jesus summarized the OT law as being about how to love God and how to love our neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40) and all of the 1,050 commands of the NT can be put into those categories as well. In Galatians 5:14, it says love fulfills the entire law because that is what the law is essentially an instruction manual for how to do. Jesus loved God and us through his obedience to this instruction manual, and we are to love in the same way. If you say we just need to follow his command to love one another, so that overrides all of the other commands for how God wants us to love, then you are missing the point. Jesus said that if we love him, then we will obey his commands (John 14:15), and if we have faith in God to lead us in how we should live, then we will obey His commands, so living in obedience to God is the way to live by faith and to please Him.

I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? ... Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?
(Galatians 3:2, 5, 1984 NIV)

The law has many purposes, but receiving the Spirit is not one of them.

A person that is living to please God through keeping the Law is not living by faith. (That does not mean he doesn't have to be obedient.)

For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God.
(Galatians 2:19, 1984 NIV)

The law has many purposes, but justification is not one of them.

... “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own sons or from others?” “From others,” Peter answered. “Then the sons are exempt,” Jesus said to him.
(Matthew 17:25b-26, 1984 NIV)

We are exempt from owing God anything. In fact, in Christ he has given us everything (1 Corinthians 3:21-23).

We are to obey God's law because we love Him and have faith in Him about how we should live.

So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir. ... But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? (Galatians 4:9, 1984 NIV)
(bold mine, Galatians 4:7, 9, 1984 NIV)

I'm not sure why you cut out Galatians 4:8 because it makes it clear that he was addressing those who formerly did not know God, aka former pagans. They were not formerly keeping God's laws, so they could not be turning back to them and could not be enslaved by them all over again. Paul would never have referred to God's holy, righteous, and good commands as weak and miserable principles of the world.

You are resisting accepting that living by the new way of the Spirit by the grace of God has nothing to do with the Law. The Law is as an expression of God's nature and shows us how the spiritual universe works, and when it comes to the Word in the Law, it will never pass away. However, it is gone for those saved in the sense that it cannot be kept to please God—it never did; it was the heart of people keeping the Law that could. Without a knowledge of the Law the ancient Jews would not have known how to express their love for God in ways God wanted.

Throughout the entire Bible God has wanted obedience to His commands, so I don't know how you can say that obedience is not about pleasing God. You grant that the law is instructions for how to express our love for God in the way that He wants, so why is expressing our love not pleasing to Him? The law is the way (Jeremiah 6:16-19, the truth (Psalms 119:142), and the life (Deuteronomy 30:15), Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6), the law is God's Word, and Jesus is God's Word made flesh.

In Christ, we have kept the whole Law to please God, past, present, and future. Loving God has replaced living according to the Law. Expressing one's genuine love for the Lord, however small the act is, far surpasses succeeding in keeping God's commands with an "I will keep God's commands to please him" mindset. If someone wants to buy a flower and put it out to display it to the Lord, they shall certainly not lose their reward, whereas keeping the whole Law may not even come close to that gift (depending on the person's heart).

1 John 2:3-6 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: 6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Loving God can not replace living according to the law because loving God is living according to the law. The law is about expressing one's genuine love for the Lord, so that can not be distinct from obeying the law. We should not resist God's commands, but delight in them out of faith and love. Jesus set a perfect example of how to walk in obedience to the law and we are told to follow his example and to walk in the same way he walked.

What Paul writes in Galatians 2:18 applies to trying to please God by keeping his commands:

If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. (Galatians 2:18, 1984 NIV)

Again, you are arguing against obeying the law in order to please God by using a verse that was against obeying the law in order to become justified. God's law is His instructions for how to live in a way that is pleasing to Him, not instructions for how to become justified.

1 Thessalonians 4:1 Finally, then, brothers, we ask and urge you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God, just as you are doing, that you do so more and more.

The bottom line is this: if one tries to please God by keeping part of the Law, he can only fail, and furthermore, his acts are worthless. We are entirely dependent upon God to be able to please him. Our actions count for nothing. The actions confirm and complete what is in the heart, but it is our hearts that God wants.

If God were only pleased by perfect obedience to His law, then you would be correct that we could only fail, but God is pleased by each act of faith in obedience to Him. For example, the law commands us to help the poor, and God is pleased when we demonstrate our faith in Him by following that command. The righteous deeds of the saints are like fine white linen, so they are far from nothing.
 
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In Christ you have received his righteousness so that you can do everything in the law. Yom Kippur refers to the second coming of Jesus, so it has not been fulfilled yet.
We don't celebrate any Old Testament feasts usually, unless a Christian wants to. Messianic Jews do many times but they are also Jewish.
 
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We don't celebrate any Old Testament feasts usually, unless a Christian wants to. Messianic Jews do many times but they are also Jewish.

We are told to do what God has revealed to be holy because God is holy, not because the Jews are holy, so keeping God's holy days is not about identifying as a Jew, but about identifying as a child of God.
 
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I've only VERY recently accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. And, to be honest, I really don't want to celebrate these holidays, but I don't actually even know if I have to or not

I kinda just want to follow the same standards that any Christian would. Does being born Jewish mean that I have to obey a different set of rules? Because I really, really don't want to observe these holidays.
No, you are no longer under LAW once you accept Christ. Do not go back to those principles. Jews, though special due to their unique heritage, are equal with Christians and we are to all practice alike. Read the New Testament for starters and follow its precepts...your standing will become clear. See for instance that Peter, a former Jew, had to be reprimanded by Paul for going back to practicing the LAW. You are free from O.T. LAW, but subject, as are all, to Christ's law.
 
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I've only VERY recently accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. And, to be honest, I really don't want to celebrate these holidays, but I don't actually even know if I have to or not

I kinda just want to follow the same standards that any Christian would. Does being born Jewish mean that I have to obey a different set of rules? Because I really, really don't want to observe these holidays.

This might sound silly but.. ask HIM. Well pffft asking man wow you will get so many different answers. Some believe they have to some just want to some believe no you dont have to. In all that PRAISE GOD!

So.. you pray you ask your Father for it is HIM and HIM alone you server. We are not here to please man.
 
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Actually, you should pray to the Lord and ask, but that is only starters. You are obligated to educate yourself as a Christian...God did not give us the Scriptures and expect us to ignore them. He gives us the Holy Spirit to teach us as we read the Scriptures. So, again, pray and read!
And I celebrate your new birth in Christ Jesus!! Praise the Lord and may He give you a great deposit of faith and wisdom as you read the Scriptures!
 
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I've only VERY recently accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. And, to be honest, I really don't want to celebrate these holidays, but I don't actually even know if I have to or not

I kinda just want to follow the same standards that any Christian would. Does being born Jewish mean that I have to obey a different set of rules? Because I really, really don't want to observe these holidays.

It it Yom not yum... one means day the other means tasty. :)

You don't have to do anything and you answer only to God. Some take part in these days (I would be one of them) and others don't. The answer to your question however will not be found in this thread or on this forum... the answer comes from God. Ask Him, wait for an answer, and then follow your conviction whatever it is you feel led to do.

Blessings.
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Again, one cannot follow one's own feelings in these matters...Scripture is God's Word and it is to be a lamp unto your feet. One's mind and heart are many times riddled with sin, as we are born in sin, and need that rebirth through repentance, baptism and study of His Word. Learn to live to please the Spirit and not the flesh and that knowledge comes through diligent study and love for His Word.
One might LOVE alcohol or chocolate cake a little too much and so when asking of God if alright to partake in these things the carnal mind is so bent toward sin that one mistakes one's own evil cravings as the answer from God...not so...God's Word says no to greed, drunkenness and gluttony and so there we have the pure unadulterated answer to this matter.
 
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Those observances were commanded to the Jews. If you're not Jewish you have not been commanded to observe them....but you should be able to - if you choose to...and you probably don't have to observe them in a strict, by the letter of the law manner either, but exercise respect of course.
 
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Christianity is not lawlessness.

Matthew 19:
16 Behold, one came to him and said, “Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”
17 He said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder.’ ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ ‘You shall not steal.’ ‘You shall not offer false testimony.’ 19 ‘Honor your father and mother.’ "And, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’” "

As for Rosh Hashanah, you will not find in celebrated in many Christian communities, except for a few Messianic congregations. They blew horns on Rosh Hashanah to celebrate the new year.

Yom Kippur is the day of atonement. Many of us in the United States are unaware of its passing. If you go to Israel it may be good to know about this day. They have a strict regulation to do no work during Yom Kippur. I was touring Israel and was at a guest house during Yom Kippur in Joppa (Yafo) a short distance south of Tel Aviv. On Yom Kippur the streets of the city were deserted. The few stores and restaurants that were open during Sabbath, as this was a tourist area, were closed on Yom Kippur. The airport and emergency services were open on Yom Kippur. If you are a resident of such a place and transgress against the commandment to do no work on this day, you might be made an outcast by the Jewish community.
 
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According to Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from God's law, so if Jesus had added a brand new law, then he would have sinned and been disqualified from being our Savior. However, there is nothing brand new about the command to love one another because it is found in Leviticus 19:18, but what was new about his command was the quality of the example by which we are to love, and indeed the Greek word for "new" refers to newness with respect to quality rather than with respect to time. A good verse to illustrate this difference is Matthew 19:17, where it uses two different Greek words for "new", so it is talking about brand new wine being put into wineskins that have been restored.
This is wrong.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

I think God Himself can decide if the law has changed. And He did.
 
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