Should Christians Choose Between the Lesser of Two Evil's in the 2016 Election ?

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It really has no effect on the assembly of ekklesia,
any more than the Chinese or Bulgarian actions do.

Nevertheless, there it is....

riiiiiight around the corner...

it's comin', brother.

We are not to just stand there as evil prevails, watching it. We are to speak out and take a stand against evil.

Our voice needs to be heard for the cause of those who cannot speak up for, or defend themselves, and we are to intervene and help those who are in the clutches of evil, not stand there and watch it.

It's all IN the Bible that you and me read brother, amen?
 
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Nevertheless, there it is....
riiiiiight around the corner...
it's comin', brother.
We are not to just stand there as evil prevails, watching it. We are to speak out and take a stand against evil. Our voice needs to be heard for the cause of those who cannot speak up for, or defend themselves, and we are to intervene and help those who are in the clutches of evil, not stand there and watch it. It's all IN the Bible that you and me read brother, amen?
So, will you speak out the Truth as the BIBLE says, (don't be silent)
stand for the Truth as the BIBLE says, (don't be silent)
and not get sucked in to
trusting the system(proven long ago untrustworthy) God never said to trust ?
 
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Hopefully I misunderstood you.
Love hopes for the best, and it is best if everyone trusts in God to do what He says,
instead of trusting in man's system or in the flesh which has never been trustworthy.

Daniel 2:20-22Amplified Bible (AMP)
20 Daniel answered,

“Blessed be the name of God forever and ever,
For wisdom and power belong to Him.
21
“It is He who changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and establishes kings.
He gives wisdom to the wise
And [greater] knowledge to those who have understanding!

Throughout history, there has been evil....

the nazi regime slaughtering Jews, and anyone else they deemed not worthy to live and breathe on this earth, especially those hiding and protecting the Jews, and there's the horrors of human trafficking, including slavery, and the killing of babies in wombs.

Thoughout history there have been those brave souls, who stood against evil, speaking out and defending those who were in the clutches of evil.

They stood against evil in whatever ways they could:

Changing laws
voting evil out of office
advocating and speaking out for the down trodden and the cast offs
protecting those who needed it

There are Bible verses that admonish that we do this as believers of the Most High God.
 
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So, will you speak out the Truth as the BIBLE says, (don't be silent)
stand for the Truth as the BIBLE says, (don't be silent)
and not get sucked in to
trusting the system(proven long ago untrustworthy) God never said to trust ?

i don't trust a "system".

i trust GOD, brother.
 
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There are Bible verses that admonish that we do this as believers of the Most High God.
It's already been widely admitted that whoever stays in office or gets in office is evil.
God never advocated voting. (and voting has not helped this country, nor has so-called 'democracy' helped the people in other countries it was forced upon, from the news the last 50 years).
God never told His people to pick something by popularity. Did He ? Particularly 'leaders'.

Proverbs 28:28
KJ21
When the wicked rise, men hide themselves; but when they perish, the righteous increase.
ASV
When the wicked rise, men hide themselves; But when they perish, the righteous increase.
AMP
When the wicked rise [to power], men hide themselves; But when the wicked perish, the [consistently] righteous increase and become great.
AMPC
When the wicked rise [to power], men hide themselves; but when they perish, the [consistently] righteous increase and become many.
 
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It's already been widely admitted that whoever stays in office or gets in office is evil.
God never advocated voting. (and voting has not helped this country, nor has so-called 'democracy' helped the people in other countries it was forced upon, from the news the last 50 years).
God never told His people to pick something by popularity. Did He ? Particularly 'leaders'.

Proverbs 28:28
KJ21
When the wicked rise, men hide themselves; but when they perish, the righteous increase.
ASV
When the wicked rise, men hide themselves; But when they perish, the righteous increase.
AMP
When the wicked rise [to power], men hide themselves; But when the wicked perish, the [consistently] righteous increase and become great.
AMPC
When the wicked rise [to power], men hide themselves; but when they perish, the [consistently] righteous increase and become many.

You do realize what the Bible is speaking of, do you not?

Was David wicked?
 
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and there's the horrors of human trafficking, including slavery, and the killing of babies in wombs.
Don't know why you brought this up.
It's been known for a century, and is worse now than ever before, thanks to the 'system',
and it will be worse next year, thanks to the 'system'.
Do you know where the 'system' gets its money ? (I think someone else posted it a few posts back).
And why the evil keeps increasing every year since wwI ? (and why the Christians protesting it have been silenced?)
 
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You do realize what the Bible is speaking of, do you not?
Was David wicked?
What did God say? (besides never to speak against God's anointed) (remember what happened to Miriam when Aaron and Miriam spoke against Moses)
 
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trusting the system(proven long ago untrustworthy) God never said to trust ?

God gave us the "system", and I trust Him. He uses "means" to accomplish His goals.

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed. (Romans 13:1-7)​
 
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Don't know why you brought this up.
It's been known for a century, and is worse now than ever before, thanks to the 'system',
and it will be worse next year, thanks to the 'system'.
Do you know where the 'system' gets its money ? (I think someone else posted it a few posts back).
And why the evil keeps increasing every year since wwI ? (and why the Christians protesting it have been silenced?)

i brought up evil.

the victims of evil.

that God admonishes us to fight for and defeat such things.

Do you know which Bible verses i'm referring to, brother?
 
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What did God say? (besides never to speak against God's anointed) (remember what happened to Miriam when Aaron and Miriam spoke against Moses)

David was a king.

Was he evil?

Were those Bible verses you posted speaking of David?
 
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Good . God is to be trusted always.

No one anywhere has shown that the system works, nor is honest, nor is trustworthy.
In fact, just the opposite.

You're not getting my point, are you?

G'nite brother.
 
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i brought up evil.
the victims of evil.
that God admonishes us to fight for and defeat such things.
Do you know which Bible verses i'm referring to, brother?
And God says how to. (not by voting, which has obviously failed)
 
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David was a king.

Was he evil?

Were those Bible verses you posted speaking of David?
Did God say David was "a man after God's Own Heart"? (yes).
Why do you keep asking if David was evil ?
Were those BIble verses posted speaking of David ? no. never even thought of David. why?
 
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There is a second option. I have heard about a situation that is in the works where Obama may implement martial law. Obama wants a third term in office or a dictatorial position. This can happen if he gets enough (75%) of congress to back him.

http://newsexaminer.net/politics/obama-announces-plans-for-a-third-term-presidential-run/

In this article it talks about the martial law. From what I understand he can call a state of emergency and put himself in the position of power that no one can remove him from.

I have read that the unrest in the US is staged in order for Obama to instigate his plan. It is predicted that it will get worse and that there may not be an election in November.... or for a very long time, if ever.

Like I said, I have read about this but it seems a bit far fetched even for this time in history where not much surprises me.
 
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I have read that the unrest in the US is staged in order for Obama to instigate his plan.
Last summer, or thereabouts, when Obama himself on television(live?) said he had enjoyed being president 2 terms, and that he would like to continue to be president for a 3rd term, but that it wouldn't happen legally if there was an election, .....
well....
I noticed right away, but most people seemed to just ignore him.
Realize though that it's not up to Obama, and never was....
It's also not up to the voters, and never was....
 
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Nope. That is the old stand-by for those still trying to claim the corporate American regime resembles democratic rule.
Corporate America took over the United States before humanity walked on the moon.
And...you're just going to show them...and, stay home! Terrific.
 
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It's also why it doesn't matter if the potus is an alien or not.
"USC" stands for United States Code, not US Constitution. Codes are company policy. "Citizen" was redefined by the 17th amendment. I think it means "employee" now (of the USA).
That's how they establish a contract, and so jurisdiction.
No, the US Code is simply codified law, meaning it organized by topic rather than by date. And the 17th Amendment deals with the direct election of US Senators, it does not define citizenship.
 
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