Roy Moore suspended... again.

[MennoSota]

The court is ruling on legal marriage, not religious marriage. There is a reason people who wanted to be marriage wanted legal recognition, there is a lot of rights and benefits under the law. That doesn't mean they have to get married under your religion, just under the eyes of the state.

There was a point where legal marriage and religious marriage could have been separated. But both sides did not want to let go of the word marriage. So now we are stuck with people claiming that some legal marriage is not moral because it is against their god. Well the SCOTUS doesn't care about that, they just care about what is legal under the Constitution.

Besides, how does SSM hurt you? You don't have to have one, nor does your church have to perform one.

You are trying to impose a religious morality without any evidence that it is harmful.

There is no such thing as a legal marriage outside of a spiritual marriage. Attempts to do so are simply false. Thus, sexual unions of the same gender are illegitimate.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

There is no such thing as a legal marriage outside of a spiritual marriage. Attempts to do so are simply false. Thus, sexual unions of the same gender are illegitimate.

I think you've forgotten what country you live in...

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm waiting for your documentation. I am not aware of either of those three cultures celebrating same sex ceremonial unions. Please show proof.

Who cares?

 

[MennoSota]

I think you've forgotten what country you live in...

I think you've forgotten the God who created marriage.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The feds do not control or dictate marriage laws. The courts can declare laws that do not allow mixed marriages illegal. The states need to rewrite those laws so they are legal.

You just contradicted yourself here...

Pigmentation is not a moral issue.

Neither is gender.

Sexual behavior is a moral issue.

Who cares?

The Supreme Court has zero jurisdiction over moral, religious issues, of which homosexual behavior falls into a moral category.

So who died and gave Roy Moore jurisdiction?

The SCOTUS has over stepped and blurred the lines of church and state, thus violating the 1st Amendment.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the lie, it won't become truth.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I think you've forgotten the God who created marriage.

What does he have to do with Roy Moore?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Who cares?

People who for whatever crazy reason don't think that an appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy...

 

[TLK Valentine]

Hey, Menno....

Roy Moore has zero jurisdiction over moral or religious issues, so he had no business trying to legislate it in the first place -- ergo, the Supreme Court had every right to undo his mistake.

Check and mate.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

I think you've forgotten the God who created marriage.

As an atheist, I don't really care what your religious opinion is. And neither does the supreme court.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Hey, Menno -- if the Supreme Court has zero jurisdiction over moral or religious issues, do any of the courts below it?

 

[MennoSota]

As an atheist, I don't really care what your religious opinion is. And neither does the supreme court.

Your lack of faith is irrelevant to reality and God's creation of your body, soul and spirit.

 

[smaneck]

There is no such thing as a legal marriage outside of a spiritual marriage. Attempts to do so are simply false. Thus, sexual unions of the same gender are illegitimate.

LOL. What you don't seem to understand is that laws are man-made. If we say same-sex marriage is legal, then it is period.

 

[MennoSota]

LOL. What you don't seem to understand is that laws are man-made. If we say same-sex marriage is legal, then it is period.

Marriage is God made. Try again.

 

[smaneck]

I think you've forgotten the God who created marriage.

Who created marriage can't be a consideration under the law. Separation of church and state, remember?

 

[MennoSota]

Who created marriage can't be a consideration under the law. Separation of church and state, remember?

That's why the state has no say.

 

[smaneck]

Marriage is God made. Try again.

Then neither the federal government or the states should have any marriage laws period and no special considerations should be given to married couples.

 

[smaneck]

That's why the state has no say.

So states are wrong to issue marriage licenses to anyone, whether hetero or homosexual, right?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Your lack of faith is irrelevant to reality and God's creation of your body, soul and spirit.

And God's creation of body, soul, and spirit is irrelevant to the reality of the United States Constitution.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's why the state has no say.

The state has no say? are you sure about that?

 

[MennoSota]

Then neither the federal government or the states should have any marriage laws period and no special considerations should be given to married couples.

Correct. The States and Federal government should have no say in marriage and there should be no tax codes based upon marriage.