Hi David, good of you to begin with a greeting!
What you call "the basic facts" are just your mistaken assumption, imho; your calling the fetus an 'unborn baby" and "person" does not make it so. Legally it has pretty much always been that the fetus is NOT a person, and SCOTUS reaffirmed and reinforced that fact.
That some states have (fairly recently I believe) erected laws to try to turn any fatal harm done to a fetus into some sort of "homocide" only means "pro-life" has been able to convince some legislators to distort reality with such suggestions of personhood, with laws aimed at ultimately outlawing abortion.
I certainly never said a fetus is a tumor though I tried to point out that if someone thinks it is a great virtue that the fetus has life, and is human cells, the same applies to the cancer (which might be in the same place, i.e. the womb).
Note I refuse to use the FALSE TERMINOLOGY "unborn child," and suggest if you are not trying to bias the argument and merely assume the conclusion by a linguistic fiat, you would also avoid such unproven terminology.
Thanks for your response! Sincerely in Christ, Douglas
Hi Douglas, I was referring specifically to "us" (meaning our secular national & state governments) not "me" (in this case) as the users of official/legal terminology such as, "
an Unborn Member of the Species Homo Sapiens" or
"unborn child", in the writing of our laws concerning unborn children. So you may not like it personally and you may wish to call it, "false terminology", but this is the terminology that's used, even by our secular government.
Fetal Homicide Laws have been in place (at least) since the Torah was written, and in our country, they were certainly in place before SCOTUS' Roe v Wade decision. The addition of Roe, in fact, required that a caveat (of sorts) be added to our existing laws to ensure that the death of an unborn child due to an elective abortion would no longer be considered a crime.
Biblically, legally, and scientifically, we
KNOW that when a woman is pregnant, she is carrying an unborn human child, not simply a blob of cells (as I mentioned in my last post, if a baby dies
in utero, so do all of his/her cells, even though all the cells of the "mother's body" continue to live on).
To say that an "unborn child" is now something "less" because SCOTUS gave the women of this country the right to decide whether their unborn baby lives or dies
(for any reason they see fit BTW, which in 99+% of the 58,000,000 abortions that have been performed since Roe, is simply for the sake of the mother's "convenience") is simply not true. Every time a successful abortion occurs, a unborn human child is killed
If those who support abortion want to use different terminology or attempt to believe something else to sooth their consciences, I can certainly understand that. Nevertheless, the truth about abortion, IOW, that it always involves the killing of a human child, does not change (no matter how badly some people wish it would
).
Yours and His,
David