Conservatives have brought in laws which effectively silence Christians

[Colin]

“Last week, the Prime Minister distributed an Easter video in which he commended Christians and the church for their vital role in society, stating that we are a Christian country and should be proud of it.

“However, his Government has brought in laws which effectively silence Christians and remove them from the public square. "

http://www.thecatholicuniverse.com/sacked-christian-magistrate-suspended-from-nhs-trust-post-8180

 

[Cos-play]

The man is free to say anything he wants but as a Queen's magistrate he ACTUALLY HAS TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

And if he doesn't, and then publicly says he doesn't then he'll get removed.

As he should.

What would this thread look like if a muslim magistrate decided he wanted to follow Sharia law ?

As for his NHS position. He doesn't get to say what he wants about Christianity as a superior religion and diss the LBGT community and get to keep his job if the NHS trust doesn't like the publicity he's getting on the subject.

The man wants to do what he wants, say what he wants when he wants, ignore the law as a magistrate and cause the company he's working for bad publicity and then claim he's being oppressed.


What an idiot.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

What would this thread look like if a muslim magistrate decided he wanted to follow Sharia law?

If Europe had Sharia law Europe would be like Saudi Arabia.

Here's a excerpt from a news article about a country that recently enacted Sharia law:

"The Islamic criminal law is set to include punishments such as flogging, dismemberment and death by stoning for crimes such as rape, adultery and sodomy."

Source:
CNN: Brunei adopts sharia law amid international outcry (May 1, 2014)

 

[Cos-play]

If Europe had Sharia law Europe would be like Saudi Arabia.

Here's a excerpt from a news article about a country that recently enacted Sharia law:

"The Islamic criminal law is set to include punishments such as flogging, dismemberment and death by stoning for crimes such as rape, adultery and sodomy."

Source:
CNN: Brunei adopts sharia law amid international outcry (May 1, 2014)

The only way you can win an argument is to change the subject.

We are talking about he UK's imagined suppression of Christianity, not Saudi Arabia

 

[LivingWordUnity]

The only way you can win an argument is to change the subject.

We are talking about he UK's imagined suppression of Christianity, not Saudi Arabia

You're the one who brought up Sharia law.

 

[mea kulpa]

“Last week, the Prime Minister distributed an Easter video in which he commended Christians and the church for their vital role in society, stating that we are a Christian country and should be proud of it.

“However, his Government has brought in laws which effectively silence Christians and remove them from the public square. "

http://www.thecatholicuniverse.com/sacked-christian-magistrate-suspended-from-nhs-trust-post-8180

Christian country... pft we havent been a christian country since the reformation. Its just been a slow death. Camaron is just playing mind games if you believe his nonsense you will believe horse apples are figs

 

[MoonlessNight]

What would this thread look like if a muslim magistrate decided he wanted to follow Sharia law ?

We would condemn him of course, but that is because the practices advocated by Sharia Law are themselves immoral and abhorrent.

There would only be something hypocritical in us condemning someone who supports Sharia Law, while at the same time praising someone who speaks Christian Truth, if our position was "the law of the land is absolute, and regardless of its merits, officials should bow to the law of the land."

Is that your position, that it doesn't matter whether the law is good or not, but that officials should bow blindly to it?

If so, do you condemn the actions of government officials in Saudi Arabia or North Korea, among other places? Their actions are, of course, justified by the laws of the land that they live in.

 

[Rhamiel]

What would this thread look like if a muslim magistrate decided he wanted to follow Sharia law ?

well they DO follow Sharia law in Saudi Arabia and several other Muslim countries

what countries do they have Christian laws?

seems like Muslims have Muslim countries they can choose to live in
Secularists have tons of secular countries to live in
but there are very very very few (if any) countries that are Christian

 

[Cos-play]

well they DO follow Sharia law in Saudi Arabia and several other Muslim countries

what countries do they have Christian laws?

seems like Muslims have Muslim countries they can choose to live in
Secularists have tons of secular countries to live in
but there are very very very few (if any) countries that are Christian

....and your point is ....?

 

[Cos-play]

We would condemn him of course, but that is because the practices advocated by Sharia Law are themselves immoral and abhorrent.

There would only be something hypocritical in us condemning someone who supports Sharia Law, while at the same time praising someone who speaks Christian Truth, if our position was "the law of the land is absolute, and regardless of its merits, officials should bow to the law of the land."

Is that your position, that it doesn't matter whether the law is good or not, but that officials should bow blindly to it?

My point is the law is the law and if you are a judge you need to uphold the law. This clown felt that didn't have to uphold laws he didn't like.


If so, do you condemn the actions of government officials in Saudi Arabia or North Korea, among other places? Their actions are, of course, justified by the laws of the land that they live in.[/QUOTE]

We are a land ruled by laws and the common citizenry. North Korea and Saudi Arabia are lands ruled by evil depots.

Hardly even close to an apt comparison.

 

[MoonlessNight]

We are a land ruled by laws and the common citizenry. North Korea and Saudi Arabia are lands ruled by evil depots.

Hardly even close to an apt comparison.

Is your position then that if a law is reached through a democratic process, then it is a fair law of the land and officials must follow it regardless of its content?

For example, suppose that Trump manages to win the presidency through gaining the popular support of the nation (even if you think that this is unlikely, imagine it for the sake of the question). Furthermore, suppose that he passes down some executive order that you disagree with. For example, suppose he instructs law enforcement agencies to focus their efforts towards finding families of illegal immigrants, deporting them without consideration of their situation, and in the case that the children were born in the US, separating from their parents without regard to how they will be cared for. (If you think that this executive order would be a good thing, we can come up with another example). Would you say then that any officials who disagreed with this policy must resign and let it be carried out by others, since it is the law of the land reached as a result of a democratic process?

 

[Rhamiel]

....and your point is ....?

it makes sense for Muslims laws and traditions to be followed in Muslim countries

it should make sense for Christian laws and traditions to be followed in Christian countries

 

[Tallguy88]

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