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Did the Catholic Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday?
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Well the RCC appears to have Revelation as "Jesus wins against the Jews and Jerusalem and that is all you need to know." Thus they claim the impure woman and city of Babylon in Rev 17 - is Jerusalem. So also in Rev 18.
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Did you mean that as a post to HV?? I don't think BukiRob ever voted for resseting the weekly cycle each month based on the moon.
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on this thread the "solemnity" (the obligatory nature of observance) is transferred from Saturday to Sunday - so is it your thinking that Saturday - 7th day Sabbath "solemnity" was only for 2 hours and that got transferred to Sunday?
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The main part of the Lord's day is what we call our Sunday obligation, which is attending Mass. Even though the fasting and Mass only take up about two hours, it sanctifies the whole day.
It is also to be a day of leisure, but this is not defined, so whatever you think is easy if fine. I don't go to work on Sunday. But I do cook and things like that. Basically, for me Sunday is what the average person would call a vacation day.
I'm very fortunate right now that I don't have to work either Saturday or Sunday. When I start working in the detox unit they may assign me weekend hours, so make hay while the sun shines!
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If that is so, then my guess is that the New Era of understanding between Catholics and Jews may effect Catholic eschatology. I'm not sure that there actually is such a thing as Catholic eschatology that is ingrained in stone, other than amillenialism. I always thought many Catholics were partial preterists.
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That is a false teaching. No one who worships on Sunday transfers the rules of the Sabbath to it.
Seeing you don't keep the Sabbath according to the law, I really don't understand what your issue is.
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So technically you will sin to remain employed. Now that's a real value on one's soul.
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The question was WHEN do we observe Sabbath. You are not answering. Saying you rest in Jesus does not answer the question of when. That you continue to give cutesy answers such as this only continues to document that you don't observe the Sabbath since you don't believe in it. Why are you even involving yourself with this discussion? You are of course perfectly free to participate. I'm just not sure what is in it for you since what day the Sabbath is, is an irrelevancy to you.
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Since when is it a sin to heal on the Sabbath?
Even among Jews, certain jobs are perfectly allowable on Shabbat. Doctors work in Hospitals where they save lives. Staff work in homes where they care for residents who otherwise would not be able to care for themselves. It's not the same as having a job in a restaurant, when people can certainly cook for themselves, or at an office, when business can be done on another day. It's the same principal as why women are allowed to do the very demanding labor of child care on Shabbat -- it is NECESSARY labor, not something that can be postponed.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain Halakha! I love this stuff.
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Who says the questions of men don't ever get answered? God says come let us reason together. He invites our questions. He gave us curious minds, so he created us with the intention that we ask questions--it delights him. Of course, some answers are beyond us, just as children will not understand all adult issues. But our heavenly Father does try to explain things to us.
If you celebrate Jesus on Sunday, I think that's wonderful. I don't think Gentiles are obligated to observe Sabbath. I do think that the Church has set aside Sunday as it's own day of worship. I myself also attend church on Sunday.
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Actually, I think that mankind is always looking for answers, including spiritual answers. That's why we have so many religions.
Your charicature of Arminians is nothing but a flame. Flaming is not an argument. Nor is a non-sequitur.
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