Science insulting the image of Jesus

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If the scientist would have done Mohammad up like that they would have been bombed by terrorist! They did not mind to mock up Jesus as they knew there would be no retaliation.
Isn't that how it should be?

Or are you upset that Christians don't react to blasphemy in the way Islamic extremists do?
 
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I simply hate to see the things of Christ drug through the mire of modern society...

Okay. But you didn't mind it when you thought Ian McKellan, a sinner, was not gay?

Is it better to have Christ drug through the mire of ancient society? I mean, you seem to have a problem with the picture of what ancient Jesus might have looked like because he's depicted as a criminal. Heck, homosexuality is not a new or modern thing.
 
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I simply hate to see the things of Christ drug through the mire of modern society...

Because the last place the things of Christ should be is in modern society...
 
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Well as entertaining as all this is I still would be interested in A) how the picture was insulting B) how the picture looks like a criminal. If it could be explained without a long story about some past experience or more posting of your resume that would also be nice. :wave:
tulc(thanks in advance) :)
 
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Sure doesn't sound like heaven.

Picture a stray dog chewing on the bone. The bone is the only pleasure he has in life. If you try to take the bone from him he will growl and may bite you. Offer him a steak and he will drop the bone for the better pleasure. For most people, sex is the old dog bone. They chew on it because it is the pleasure they live for. If you try to threaten their pleasures they will get upset with you and be offended. They also try to reduce Christ to the things of this world, as they have also done in the image of the OP.

The pleasures of heaven are more in the steak variety. Only the Holy Spirit can lead us out of the dark cave of the bones and pleasures of this world and show us of the things superior and of celestial nature. When he does these things we will gladly lay down the pleasures of this world for the higher things.
 
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Heaven does not sound heavenly.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. - Romans 8:24-25

Which is why even the Christian patiently awaits the hope of the next world.
 
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Picture a stray dog chewing on the bone. The bone is the only pleasure he has in life. If you try to take the bone from him he will growl and may bite you. Offer him a steak and he will drop the bone for the better pleasure. For most people, sex is the old dog bone. They chew on it because it is the pleasure they live for. If you try to threaten their pleasures they will get upset with you and be offended. They also try to reduce Christ to the things of this world, as they have also done in the image of the OP.

The pleasures of heaven are more in the steak variety. Only the Holy Spirit can lead us out of the dark cave of the bones and pleasures of this world and show us of the things superior and of celestial nature. When he does these things we will gladly lay down the pleasures of this world for the higher things.

Still sounds like you're saying Christ had no place in this world.
 
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An Associates degree in now worth what a high school diploma was twenty years ago
A Bachelors degree in now worth what an Associates degree was twenty years ago
A Masters degree is now what a Bachelors degree was twenty years ago
I said the same thing to a friend like 6 months ago. lol

on that note of the OP:

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Picture a stray dog chewing on the bone. The bone is the only pleasure he has in life. If you try to take the bone from him he will growl and may bite you. Offer him a steak and he will drop the bone for the better pleasure. For most people, sex is the old dog bone. They chew on it because it is the pleasure they live for. If you try to threaten their pleasures they will get upset with you and be offended. They also try to reduce Christ to the things of this world, as they have also done in the image of the OP.

The pleasures of heaven are more in the steak variety. Only the Holy Spirit can lead us out of the dark cave of the bones and pleasures of this world and show us of the things superior and of celestial nature. When he does these things we will gladly lay down the pleasures of this world for the higher things.

I'm sorry, I'm still stuck on why you're ashamed of McKellan for being gay, but none of his other sins. Or why the image in the OP looks like a criminal. Or why the image is insulting to Jesus?

Any chance you could give a straight answer to those please?
 
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I'll say this one thing regarding Jesus "sexuality"----anyone that has the power to speak a feast into appearing yet will starve for 40 days---is going to have no trouble saying no to any woman---or any man for that matter. I am having trouble believing that the guy who claims Jesus was bi-sexual is a Muslim. They throw them off the tallest buildings.
I do not find the image the OP put up as a criminal nor particularly offensive. It is more Neanderthal looking though. The bible does state that Jesus was not "comely" that none should desire Him. But there is not good looking and homely and the Op picture is a little too homely for me. He was not disfigured as He was without spot or blemish, just not a hunk.
Not being able to picture a world without sex says more about the individual than about heaven. As mortal humans, we can only think carnally. Whatever God has in mind is going to be better than anything here:
(1Co 2:9) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
 
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I'm sorry, I'm still stuck on why you're ashamed of McKellan for being gay, but none of his other sins. Or why the image in the OP looks like a criminal. Or why the image is insulting to Jesus?

Any chance you could give a straight answer to those please?

why you're ashamed of McKellan for being gay but none of his other sins - I do not even want to visualize two men in bed.
but none of his other sins -Probably because they do not sicken me!
Or why the image in the OP looks like a criminal - I guarantee you wont find that image in church!
Or why the image is insulting to Jesus? - The image does not portray a virtuous man.

The bible says that virtue went out from the Lord's presence. I will go along with the shroud of Turin image as the authentic image of Christ because it also portrays a virtuous man. The image of the Christ the scientist designed is a refection of the evil in their hearts.

25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,
26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,
27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.
28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.
29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.
30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?
31 And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? - Mark 5

 
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Or why the image in the OP looks like a criminal - I guarantee you wont find that image in church!
Or why the image is insulting to Jesus? - The image does not portray a virtuous man.

It portrays what an average man would look like if he lived in that place in that time... and we know that Jesus, for all his qualities, was of average appearance.

The bible says that virtue went out from the Lord's presence. I will go along with the shroud of Turin image as the authentic image of Christ because it also portrays a virtuous man. The image of the Christ the scientist designed is a refection of the evil in their hearts.

So you can tell a virtuous man from a non-virtuous one by sight?

Let me guess -- skin tone, right?
 
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why you're ashamed of McKellan for being gay but none of his other sins - I do not even want to visualize two men in bed.
but none of his other sins -Probably because they do not sicken me!

So Jesus would be ashamed of that particular sin, because it sickens you?

Or why the image in the OP looks like a criminal - I guarantee you wont find that image in church!

What does someone you'd find in church look like?

Or why the image is insulting to Jesus? - The image does not portray a virtuous man.

What does a virtuous man look like?
 
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Or why the image in the OP looks like a criminal - I guarantee you wont find that image in church!
Or why the image is insulting to Jesus? - The image does not portray a virtuous man.

Can you even define virtuous? You know it has nothing to do with looks, right? The first statement is just so inane I'm starting to question if you're serious at all in what you're saying in this thread.
 
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Can you even define virtuous? You know it has nothing to do with looks, right? The first statement is just so inane I'm starting to question if you're serious at all in what you're saying in this thread.

I was born on a military base in NC, and have lived in TN,CA, and then to MI. The school I went to in Michigan was about the hippiest place on earth. Every now and then you would see someone get saved. You could tell, not only by the haircut, but by the basic change in the guy. The Christ would come shining through, and we would all be afraid of the guy.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. - 2 Corinthians 5:17

I would expect to see some kind of change in anyone who gets saved and accepts Christ in his life. It ought also to be something refreshing. If you are going to do up the image of Christ I would expect to see some virtue in his countenance!

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I was born on a military base in NC, and have lived in TN,CA, and then to MI. The school I went to in Michigan was about the hippiest place on earth. Every now and then you would see someone get saved. You could tell, not only by the haircut, but by the basic change in the guy. The Christ would come shining through, and we would all be afraid of the guy.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. - 2 Corinthians 5:17

I would expect to see some kind of change in anyone who gets saved and accepts Christ in his life. It ought also to be something refreshing. If you are going to do up the image of Christ I would expect to see some virtue in his countenance!

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Why would you need to be afraid of someone, who has found Christ?
 
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Why would you need to be afraid of someone, who has found Christ?

Because the virtue in the guy suggested something supernatural, and as we were all at the best agnostic, we would be terrified of such a person!
 
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Because the virtue in the guy suggested something supernatural, and as we were all at the best agnostic, we would be terrified of such a person!

Explain the behaviors this person displayed, that demonstrated what you describe and be specific please.
 
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