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So it wasn't random that he came to be at the Planned Parenthood offices. He SPECIFICALLY asked directions, and his "baby parts" comment wasn't out of the blue. I'm sure he wasn't motivated by the Republican lies with the edited videos...

Accused gunman asked for directions to Planned Parenthood

The man accused of killing three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado asked at least one person in a nearby shopping center for directions to the facility before opening fire, law enforcement sources confirm to CBS News, offering the clearest suggestion yet that he was targeting the reproductive health organization.
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A second law enforcement official said Dear assembled propane tanks around a vehicle and brought at least 10 guns, including rifles and handguns, to the clinic, where he swapped gunfire with officers during an hours-long standoff.
Call it what it is! It IS terrorism!

 

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Of course it's not terrorism. The very notion is ridiculous.

Look at it this way: We must all be vigilant of evildoers and attackers that envy our religious freedom and democracy. Islamic fundamentalists will stop at nothing to resolve the threat of western influence, even the Islamic practice of terrorism that threatens every good Christian American.
 
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Sure it is terrorism.

But

Was he yelling God is good? Or praise Jesus? Is there an international growing group of Christians openly decapitating people? Or how about a Christian group that slaughtered 30 children and placed their severed heads on fences around the city.

Ops reality sometimes gets in the way.
 
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Sure it is terrorism.

But

Was he yelling God is good? Or praise Jesus? Is there an international growing group of Christians openly decapitating people? Or how about a Christian group that slaughtered 30 children and placed their severed heads on fences around the city.

Ops reality sometimes gets in the way.

Exactly! This is why Christians killing others for social or political reasons is okay. Because Muslims are worse!

Relatively speaking, because Muslims are so horrible, this Christian is practically righteous!
 
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what took so long to release any information reports of witnesses, etc? He had already been alleged to have said something to the effect of "no more baby body parts" as he was being arrested.....and that was it.....nothing else available....

there are allegations that he has a history of mental illness.

Why the time lapse?
 
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what took so long to release any information reports of witnesses, etc? He had already been alleged to have said something to the effect of "no more baby body parts" as he was being arrested.....and that was it.....nothing else available....

there are allegations that he has a history of mental illness.

Why the time lapse?
It's called "Investigation." Police work basically. Something that wasn't allowed to happen in the southern Calif case before the term Terrorists was called.
 
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Exactly! This is why Christians killing others for social or political reasons is okay. Because Muslims are worse!

Relatively speaking, because Muslims are so horrible, this Christian is practically righteous!

Absolutely not. It is not right for Christians to kill. Just like it is not right to take an unborn life, or walk into a church praising Allah and gunning down grandmas.
 
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Absolutely not. It is not right for Christians to kill. Just like it is not right to take an unborn life, or walk into a church praising Allah and gunning down grandmas.
Or to wait for prayer time in a church before opening fire and shooting down the congregation while praising the confederate flag.
 
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motive is fundamentalist Christianity.
Hmm, I have attended several fundamental Baptist churches over the last 24 years, small and large, and I am currently attending the largest in my city, and never once was I taught to go to abortion mills and kill people. Pray for them yes, but kill them? Never.
 
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brinny said: ↑
what took so long to release any information reports of witnesses, etc? He had already been alleged to have said something to the effect of "no more baby body parts" as he was being arrested.....and that was it.....nothing else available....

there are allegations that he has a history of mental illness.

Why the time lapse?
It's called "Investigation." Police work basically. Something that wasn't allowed to happen in the southern Calif case before the term Terrorists was called.

Interestingly enough, it was reported that he allegedly mentioned no more baby body parts as he was being arrested.....

it was odd to say the least, that any other information known at that time, was withheld.

Is there a history of his mental health state and/or history of mental illness, criminal history/behaviors, etc?
 
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Hmm, I have attended several fundamental Baptist churches over the last 24 years, small and large, and I am currently attending the largest in my city, and never once was I taught to go to abortion mills and kill people. Pray for them yes, but kill them? Never.
Yes, my bad. I meant to put radical Christianity. I edited my post.
 
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Just because a person or group call themselves "Christian", does not mean they are. Darkness can disguise itself as light. Know the tree by its fruit.

Indeed.

In addition, when did this man ever declare believing in the Christian God?
 
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Is there an international growing group of Christians openly decapitating people? Or how about a Christian group that slaughtered 30 children and placed their severed heads on fences around the city.
Should we wait until there is? Why not address the problem head on and nip it in the bud right now before it gets out of hand?
 
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Absolutely not. It is not right for Christians to kill. Just like it is not right to take an unborn life, or walk into a church praising Allah and gunning down grandmas.
No no... It is not right for Christians to murder. Killing is perfectly fine as long as it is justified. I've had Christians tell me this when I ask them how they could call themselves "pro-life" yet support warfare, capital punishment and arming ordinary citizens with deadly weapons.
 
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Hmm, I have attended several fundamental Baptist churches over the last 24 years, small and large, and I am currently attending the largest in my city, and never once was I taught to go to abortion mills and kill people. Pray for them yes, but kill them? Never.

Indeed.
 
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Just because a person or group call themselves "Christian", does not mean they are. Darkness can disguise itself as light. Know the tree by its fruit.
Just because a person or group call themselves "Islam" or "Muslims" does not mean they are.
 
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