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jan001,
1. There is no scripture that says saints reign from heaven right now. In what way is Christ reigning from heaven? He is supposed to reign in a christian's heart. We are being trained right now through our sufferings right now because if we suffer, we shall reign. This is no present time reigning in the physical kingdom. We are in a war against spiritual wickedness etc. but spiritual warfare is not the same as the physical reign where the first 1000 years will be Israel becoming the head of the nations and the saints ruling around in different positions on earth.
2. Peter and Paul talked about the kingdom reign on earth as well as John the Revelator and never put it in the context of Christ and his saints ruling from heaven down to earth through believers without the kingdoms of the world being ruled physically by Christ and his theocracy. And yet you want to say we are in the millennial kingdom which doesn't match up. The millennial kingdom is also related to the restitution of all things which Peter mentioned in the book of Acts. He even mentioned about what Joel said about the pouring of the Holy Spirit being a sign of the end times but not a fulfillment because if you read Joel creation has to be free of the curse.
3. There is no scripture to show that Christ and the saints rule from heaven. There is no scripture to prove that the spiritual rule against wickedness in the church age has anything to do with the millennial kingdom. There is no scripture to prove that the 1000 years is in the church age with no kingdoms physically subdued on earth and no curse that is not being lifted. There is no context in the scripture to prove in the total and complete picture that the 1000 years is here right now and that we go into the Kingdom of God all in all instead of the first 1000 years to rid sin and rebellion of the rebels who are deceived and revolt before they are destroyed by fire out of heaven which is different from the battle of Armageddon which is right before the Millennial kingdom. The Kingdom of God all in all is different than the Day of the Lord when Christ will rule and reign with his saints literally on earth.
4. JESUS HAS TO RULE AND REIGN UNTIL DEATH IS DESTROYED FOR HIM TO GIVE THE KINGDOM BACK TO GOD THE FATHER. READ 1 CORINTHIANS 15:28. PSALM 2:9; JESUS WILL RULE WITH A ROD OF IRON AND SO WILL SAINTS (REVELATION 2:26-27) UNTIL DEATH IS PHYSICALLY DONE AWAY WITH ON EARTH (1 CORINTHIANS 15:24-25) BECAUSE DEATH WAS OVERCOME SPIRITUALLY AT THE CROSS. REVELATION 1:18. Jerry Kelso
We will agree to disagree.
May God bless you!
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