What is the defense for planned parenthood harvesting babay brains?

[brinny]

Yes. And one can only feel pity for that and their condition. And especially their family, the children in particular. Because tI don't believe that kind of numbness and indifference turns off when work is over.

i agree. I don't see that it can unless one is a psychopath.

 

[lisah]

You mean babies faces and parts of their bodies after having been premeditatively murdered in cold blood?

Yes. What should be done with them?

 

[brinny]

brinny said: ↑
You mean babies faces and parts of their bodies after having been premeditatively murdered in cold blood?

Yes. What should be done with them?

It sounds like Planned Parenthood has already solved that problem.

Murder the babies in cold blood and then with the faces, brains, and body parts of the the butchered babies, turn it into a business.

Apparently this business's "products" are in high demand.

It's brilliant. And legal.

 

[keith99]

You've made me really grateful to the teacher who had us read A Modest Proposal. Thanks.

Since I doubt many have actually read it (actually until very recently that included myself) I decided to remove one barrier and include a link to a publick domain copy.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm

It is not long, but still it may seem tedious after a bit. If it does and one is tempted to stop reading I would suggest that instead they skip to the last paragraph as it is brilliant.

 

[Gene2memE]

From what I understand they have admitted to selling baby parts for profit.

Sarcasm On **As a baby-eating atheist I'm outraged, outraged I tell you, about the prices Planned Parenthood are charging. How an I supposed to feed my family?** Sarcasm Off

What you understand appears to be incorrect, or at least based on faulty information provided by deliberately biased sources. Which could have been easily fact-checked with just a little effort.

In some US states, Planned Parenhood is legally permitted to donate fetal parts for medical research. These parts include specific organs.
Donations are only made with the approval of the patient. It's a sign-in option, not an opt-out condition.
As part of the tissue donations, PP needs to arrange transport of these parts to medical companies/institutions.
Planned Parenthood doesn't pay for this transport, the medical companies/institutions arrange this transport. The prices are to cover the cost of tissue transport, which is not cheap. Most likely, the prices set by PP dont actually even cover their costs, and outgoings are more than their incomings for this.

Planned Parenthood is a not-for-profit organisation. In 2013/2014, its revenue was about 90 million more than its expenses. None of that money went to staff. It's reinvested back into its operations.

Around 3% of PP's operations are for the provision of abortion. 42% is for STD screening/treatment, 34% is for contraception, 11% is women's health and service, 9% is for cancer screening. Of the 10.6 million procedures and services provided by PP in 2013/2014, the number of abortion services and procedures was ~327,600.

 

[The Cadet]

You mean babies faces and parts of their bodies after having been premeditatively murdered in cold blood?

Whether you like it or not, however you want to define it, abortion is going to happen, and it's going to keep happening. Regardless of how much you insist on calling it "murder", whether or not it is murder, the end result is a bunch of body parts with real medical value that can be used to help actual living people. You objecting to the use of those body parts is kind of akin to saying that an organ donor who was murdered should not be allowed to donate their kidneys.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Just going to put this here:

 

[quatona]

should it be a business at all?

Just trying to find out what exactly the OP has a problem with, and what he would like to be done with the remains of the fetusses.

 

[brinny]

Just trying to find out what exactly the OP has a problem with, and what he would like to be done with the remains of the fetusses.

perhaps there shouldn't be "remains" from the gitgo to decide "what to do with" which eerily sounds akin to a psychopathic murderer deciding how to dispose of a the "remains" of someone they just hacked to death, piece-by-piece.

Yeah, what to do with those pesky "remains".

That's the question.

 

[brinny]

Whether you like it or not, however you want to define it, abortion is going to happen, and it's going to keep happening. Regardless of how much you insist on calling it "murder", whether or not it is murder, the end result is a bunch of body parts with real medical value that can be used to help actual living people. You objecting to the use of those body parts is kind of akin to saying that an organ donor who was murdered should not be allowed to donate their kidneys.

Why would these baby murdered body parts have any medical value to anyone if these babies were not actually living before they were murdered?

 

[brinny]

Just going to put this here:

It's not the "women's bodies" that is in question here.

It's the bodies of the babies that is.

Well at least he DID say the babies are "human" from the point of fertilization.

 

[The Cadet]

Why would these baby murdered body parts have any medical value to anyone if these babies were not actually living before they were murdered?

Same deal with the organ donor who got murdered. Should the fact that he was killed instead of dying naturally or of an accident be reason to say, "Hands off those organs, you can't save lives with those"?

 

[The Cadet]

perhaps there shouldn't be "remains" from the gitgo to decide "what to do with"

You know, even if I did agree with this sentiment, the fact is, abortions happen and are going to continue to happen. As a by-product, we get medically useful tissue that could go on to save lives. Why in the world should that tissue be thrown away? It's not like they're aborting the babies to get at the stem cells.

 

[brinny]

Same deal with the organ donor who got murdered. Should the fact that he was killed instead of dying naturally or of an accident be reason to say, "Hands off those organs, you can't save lives with those"?

Is his murderer the same one gathering his organs to donate them?

 

[brinny]

You know, even if I did agree with this sentiment, the fact is, abortions happen and are going to continue to happen. As a by-product, we get medically useful tissue that could go on to save lives. Why in the world should that tissue be thrown away? It's not like they're aborting the babies to get at the stem cells.

Such "tissue" should not be there from the gitgo.

"Going to happen" doesn't make it "right" and less murderous in the "mass murders" range.

 

[The Cadet]

Is his murderer the same one gathering his organs to donate them?

Why would that matter? The organs are there, the guy is dead, and the reasons for him dying have nothing to do with the organs.

Such "tissue" should not be there from the gitgo.

But it is.

"Going to happen" doesn't make it "right" and less murderous in the "mass murders" range.

I never said it was right. Look, a guy just got murdered. The murderer is a doctor, who takes the guy's organs and says, "I can save five lives with this." Do you stop the doctor from saving those lives?

 

[brinny]

Why would that matter? The organs are there, the guy is dead, and the reasons for him dying have nothing to do with the organs.



But it is.



I never said it was right. Look, a guy just got murdered. The murderer is a doctor, who takes the guy's organs and says, "I can save five lives with this." Do you stop the doctor from saving those lives?

Well it seems the murdering doctor is a psychopath, doesn't it?

 

[brinny]

....it's not that difficult to be monstrous, is it?

Perhaps that psychopathic doctor thought he was doing "good".

Therefore, murdering the man to get at his organs was a good thing.

 

[The Cadet]

Well it seems the murdering doctor is a psychopath, doesn't it?

Does it matter? You have the chance to let a psychopath save lives before locking him up, or to throw away donor organs that people desperately need. And you'd choose the latter? Why?!

 

[brinny]

Does it matter? You have the chance to let a psychopath save lives before locking him up, or to throw away donor organs that people desperately need. And you'd choose the latter? Why?!

see post #38.

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ~George Orwell